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PoliGAF 2016 |OT14| Attention NV shoppers, democracy is on sale in aisle 4!

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IrishNinja

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Explain to me how a Nazi is getting over 44% of the vote when there's a white, Christian, heavily pro military Methodist running for president that was slow on the roll to adopt gay marriage, favors military intervention in countries, is pro oil, does not want to raise taxes on the lower, middle, and even upper-middle classes.

we're gonna pretend decades of GOP witchhunts & her being am ambitious female don't factor in at all here, eh
 
Explain to me how a Nazi is getting over 44% of the vote when there's a white, Christian, heavily pro military Methodist running for president that was slow on the roll to adopt gay marriage, favors military intervention in countries, is pro oil, does not want to raise taxes on the lower, middle, and even upper-middle classes.

because partisan affiliation is a hell of a drug.
 
McGinty yes. Ross not sure.

My prediction for the Senate is now hold NV + gain WI, IL, PA, hopefully NC/MO/NH. One of those three. I think this is best case but we might fall short and have 49. Eek

Last non-shitty polls are:

Hassan +3
Ayotte +2
Hassan +1
Hassan +13
Ayotte +6
Hassan +2

I mean, I'm fairly confident in a Hassan win.
 
That's an insane number. No matter what happens Tuesday the Dems are leaving it all on the field.

I'm really hoping that:

• Polls tightening
• Democrats freaking out / activating
• Dem's massive GOTV
• Trump's lack of GOTV

combine for one of the biggest polling upsets (in Clinton's favor) in US history. Fuck Trump and Republicans.
 

Particle Physicist

between a quark and a baryon
Now we know the FBI has been leaking info to journalists, but can't campaign officials be compelled to reveal who leaked the info?

Because that seems highly illegal

It really does, it almost seems like they are colluding considering Gulliani stated that Trump had a few aces up his sleeve when talking about what the FBI was going to do. Nothing will ever happen though
 

Teggy

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hoo boy

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Daddy Mook also thinks they are up about 170k votes in Florida. Obama went into election day with a 84k vote lead, I believe.

geez. it'll be called at 8:30 if true. It won't take long to see from early voting counts how fast Trump runs out of voters in the places he would need to catch up.

also mook is absolutely killing it as campaign chief
 

Diablos

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Last non-shitty polls are:

Hassan +3
Ayotte +2
Hassan +1
Hassan +13
Ayotte +6
Hassan +2

I mean, I'm fairly confident in a Hassan win.
Yes. But we can't discredit 4 polls in a row that have things looking meh.

Also I'm never thought about Trump's odds being only one sampling error away to victory. Trying not to think about that.
 

Iolo

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I'm really hoping that:

• Polls tightening
• Democrats freaking out / activating
• Dem's massive GOTV
• Trump's lack of GOTV

combine for one of the biggest polling upsets (in Clinton's favor) in US history. Fuck Trump and Republicans.

A different opinion, from YouGov guy, who says that EV dem leads and tight polling may not conflict:

@williamjordann said:
IF Trump has zero org but lots of reliable GOP supporters, you might EXPECT on-the-day vote to be especially big for him

Possible, but this seems like an odd interpretation. With zero org, the most reliable supporters (who tend to vote early) will vote anyway, but less reliable supporters may not be as likely to vote. It already seems that Dems are turning out more lower propensity voters, so it is not clear why this would suddenly change on election day.
 
Explain to me how a Nazi is getting over 44% of the vote when there's a white, Christian, heavily pro military Methodist from a middle class family running for president that was slow on the roll to adopt gay marriage, favors military intervention in countries, is pro oil, does not want to raise taxes on the lower, middle, and even upper-middle classes, and was the first lady of ARKANSAS. And said Nazi is from New York, is extremely wealthy, assaults women, can't even name parts of the bible or the constitution, has never read a book in his life, was born rich... it doesn't make sense.

Think about that. Maybe it's not the Nazi that's the mistake, here.

Remember 'Obamacare is Socialism'?

Take that and multiply the socialism fearmongering by a factor of 1 million if Bernie was the nominee.

Besides, this election is over and Clinton will get over 300 EVs. What's the problem.
 
So... What are the chances that the dems take FLA?

Early voting still promising?

I mean, we can't know for certain...but it's looking pretty damn good. We'll be at 70% total votes cast by Sunday. If Daddy Mook is correct, we'll have a 170k or so lead. Obama had a 84k vote lead going into election day and he won by 64k, I believe. Hispanic and NPA turn out is fucking INSANE, and AA turnout has now exceeded 2012 as well. The white share of the electorate continues to trend down, and we're holding a gender gap of about 10% (54% of the early voters have been women).

So, I'd rather be us than them. But, you know, nothing is decided yet.
 

A Human Becoming

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I truly believe Sanders would have been labeled SOCIALIST in so many ads it would have destroyed him. Just ads with him saying "I'm a democratic socialist" would have gotten him fucked with independents.

I say that but Trump's campaign/business possibly having ties to Russia does nothing to some people so who knows, really.
I honestly find it hard to say what's worse to the general public: a candidate being labeled a criminal or a socialist, even with former being untrue.
 
I mean, we can't know for certain...but it's looking pretty damn good. We'll be at 70% total votes cast by Sunday. If Daddy Mook is correct, we'll have a 170k or so lead. Obama had a 84k vote lead going into election day and he won by 64k, I believe. Hispanic and NPA turn out is fucking INSANE, and AA turnout has now exceeded 2012 as well. The white share of the electorate continues to trend down, and we're holding a gender gap of about 10% (54% of the early voters have been women).

So, I'd rather be us than them. But, you know, nothing is decided yet.

Schale is expecting a 65-66% White portion of the vote by Election Day. Anything under 70% bodes really well for Clinton.
 

TheFatOne

Member
People continue to miss the biggest issue with a hypothetical Sanders run against Trump. Jeff fucking Weaver would have been running his campaign. Let that sink in a bit. This is the same fucking guy who thought that the strategy of completely ignoring the southern states during the primaries was an acceptable strategy to win. He's fucking clueless.

Edit: Also according to many Clinton is the worst Democratic nominee in history. What does that tell you about Sanders since he couldn't beat the worst nominee ever
 

Killerhertz

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I honestly find it hard to say what's worse to the general public: a candidate being labeled a criminal or a socialist, even with former being untrue.

Everyone relates socialist to communist because of cold war so it is worse than being labeled a criminal. That being said Russia is being run by an ex-KGB agent who the Republican nominee is in love with..... so maybe it could of been a wash in public perception, but I doubt it.
 

Zukkoyaki

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So in the last hour on 538...

First an unchanged tracker (Clinton +5), a Kansas poll, an Indiana poll and a landline-only NH poll knocked Clinton down 2%...

Then a Utah poll knocked her down 1.3%

Guess Silver decided she was climbing too much
 
LOL

Clinton campaign says to stop refreshing 538. Her camp definately reads PoliGaf

Stop Refreshing FiveThirtyEight
Trump’s odds of winning have spiked this week: Per Nate Silver’s latest forecast, he now has a 1-in-3 shot of beating us on Tuesday. If that number stresses you out, here’s what you can do: Chip in.
 
So in the last hour on 538...

First an unchanged tracker (Clinton +5), a Kansas poll, an Indiana poll and a landline-only NH poll knocked Clinton down 2%...

Then a Utah poll knocked her down 1.3%

Guess Silver decided she was climbing too much

Why are you guys still believing Silver is personally tampering with his formula? It is what it is, and he's not tampering with it to get more clicks
 

Iolo

Member
So in the last hour on 538...

First an unchanged tracker (Clinton +5), a Kansas poll, an Indiana poll and a landline-only NH poll knocked Clinton down 2%...

Then a Utah poll knocked her down 1.3%

Guess Silver decided she was climbing too much

Don't worry about it. If he's wrong, you want him to be spectacularly wrong. If he's right, he'll be the smuggest mf on the planet.
 
So I just realized that these paid Russian troll accounts on Facebook are extremely easy to identify. Their profiles all say they speak Russian, Spanish, French and Portuguese. You'd think someone would have realized it's an obvious giveaway.
 

Grief.exe

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LOL

Clinton campaign says to stop refreshing 538. Her camp definately reads PoliGaf

Best way to motivate dems and independents is a impending Trump presidency.

Clinton Campaign is playing 6D dimensional chess. Comey letter helps Clinton Campaign immensely, Republicans were always going to come home to vote for whatever piece of shit on the ballot. Nothing motives dems like said piece of shit having a chance.
Hello African Americans and Millennials 👌👌👌
 
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