Cabinet officers are nominated by the President and confirmed by the U.S. Senate by a majority vote
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Cabinet officers are nominated by the President and confirmed by the U.S. Senate by a majority vote
Fun times.
whyamihere
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It's a little confusing to me that in all of the states that Hillary did better than Obama in, she outperformed him in Washington state.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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The best case scenario is that Trump is the Republican Jimmy Carter where incompetence and lack of personal relationships between president and party cause nothing to get done despite total control.
Abinash117
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How did all that happen. I would think they would work together?
whyamihere
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:-(
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Carter was an outsider candidate who agreed with the party on mostly everything, but each side was constantly engaging in petty fights because they had no relationship and it sabotaged what they could do.
If a presidential administration is an extension of the campaign, this is largely what I'm expecting. Trump's been notoriously combative with the GOP establishment in congress and I expect that relationship will continue to deteriorate once the dust has settled.
who?
Dubbedinenglish
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We already threw Muslims under the bus this election, why do you guys want the back the over over them.
RustyNails
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I cant believe I watched Kaine VP announcement speech live. Oh how innocent times have gone.
excelsiorlef
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It's interesting that the only white person anyone is willing to hold accountable is Clinton.
1.21Gigawatts
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What did she say about muslims?
balladofwindfishes
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I wonder when Tim Kaine retires from the senate in 20 years or whatever, if anyone will even remember he was the VP candidate who ran against Trump.
I barely remembered he was the VP candidate while he was actively running.
I barely remembered he was the VP candidate while he was actively running.
Abinash117
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Oh considering that Trump has zero relationship with much of the GOP, doesn't pay attention, and might attack the GOP I guess that might like Carter.
Nazgul_Hunter
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Yeah; my prediction is that he's gonna try to do the things he promised to benefit the rustbelt and Republicans won't help him; Democrats will hate him and he'll be a pretty isolated president pretty quickly. His path to reelection goes through the rustbelt again, too.
Randolph Freelander
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https://twitter.com/moorehn/status/798585151332687872
People are apparently against racism only until the President laments an unarmed black child being murdered.
People are apparently against racism only until the President laments an unarmed black child being murdered.
metalslimer
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They really dropped the ball in his Spanish outreach for most of his time.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Most likely case is probably W except with way more money stolen from the government.
Cancelling the health insurance of millions and regime change in Iran will hopefully be unpopular enough to make Trump a one term president though.
Cancelling the health insurance of millions and regime change in Iran will hopefully be unpopular enough to make Trump a one term president though.
She only outpeformed what obama got in 12 in that state. She's around 1% below what obama got in 08 in that state right now. Also a few blue counties flipped to red in this election in that state.
balladofwindfishes
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Put me in the basket of people who believe Trump is the GOP's Carter.
One termer mediocre president who didn't get along with his party and ushered in a massive wave for the other party.
The story is writing itself as we go along, to repeat history, except in the opposite direction.
One termer mediocre president who didn't get along with his party and ushered in a massive wave for the other party.
The story is writing itself as we go along, to repeat history, except in the opposite direction.
No, I sort of agree with one of the replies. They wanted a black man to finally lie and say the system wasn't rigged and that systemic problems no longer existed. When he was no longer their hopeful get out of jail free card they turned.
RustyNails
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But Carter wasn't mediocre. He was awesome
OPEC crisis, Iran Hostage crisis and all other bullshit that unfolded around him wasnt his fault.
I just don't see how they survive repealing ACA in it's entirety. 20m people is roughly a third of all the people who voted for Trump. Don't care how many deplorables there are, he can't survive the political fallout.
excelsiorlef
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No one should compare anything to 08 Obama... 08 Obama is an anomaly
So Trump will be seen as the worlds biggest monster by the left 30 years from now, except it will actually make sense in this case.
And if Ryan actually manages to repeal Medicare like he wants to they're extra fucked.
Are we in a new golden age of the Republican party?
They are going to greenlight so many things they've been holding our country hostage with for the last 8 years.
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/798596014533935104
They are going to greenlight so many things they've been holding our country hostage with for the last 8 years.
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/798596014533935104
Dubbedinenglish
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The GOP's plan is running head first into stagflation, it is possible. Though Carter is an exceptional person, I'd hate to tie Trump to him.
So do we think R's will just blank slate confirm or will there be holdouts? I guess Paul did say he wouldn't support a couple of people.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Not just him, there are a lot of folks in congress who are wary of easily being the subject of "HE took away millions of peoples health coverage and left them to die" attack ads.
"Repeal Obamacare!" has always sounded much easier than it will be.
The party is emboldened by the election and individuals lack the courage or temerity to stand against awful appointments.
Blank slate confirm. The thing you have to understand about Republicans is most don't have standards.
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/31/bil...l_time_turns_ugly_on_barbaric_muslim_beliefs/
If you want to know a bit more about Tulsi Gabbard, WaPo also has an article about her.
20%. I don't think there are enough votes left for her to win the state right now.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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But Carter wasn't mediocre. He was awesome
OPEC crisis, Iran Hostage crisis and all other bullshit that unfolded around him wasnt his fault.
He had complete control and failed to major things about poverty or healthcare.
There were giant things that could have been done if Carter and Congress didn't squabble over bullshit.
Now, Trump is a terrible man whereas Carter is a great one, but hopefully the in-fighting preventing major legislation happens.
balladofwindfishes
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And the left will have 2 Reagans alive at the same time to idolize!
So maybe this is working out better than expected, at least in the long term.
Abinash117
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They have control of the three branches anything goes wrong it'll be labeled as their fault. They will try blame Democrats, but it'll only work so much.
They killed us, but they ain't whooped us yet...
Let's be honest, the history books don't remember the VPs. We barely remember the presidents as-is.
Can you name like 10 guys and what they did between Lincoln and FDR?
A "golden age" that'll last two years tops before there's a backlash from heathcare repeal and another recession from excessive spending.
The only one that'll probably be remembered for a long time is Cheney because it's obvious he was the driving force behind a lot of GWB's decisions.
whyamihere
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This is good to see:
It won't be spending that causes a recession, it will be tax cuts.
balladofwindfishes
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Kaine, Ryan, Palin, Edwards, Leiberman... uhh... errr little Bobby Dole Jr?
That's as far back as I can go naming losing VPs.
Nazgul_Hunter
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Yeah; the repeal of Obamacare is a no-win situation for them. They can either repeal it and kick 20m people off their insurance, pissing all of them off, or they can try to repeal the 'unpopular' parts, like the mandate (which is necessary for the thing to work) and it'll be a disaster, or they can do nothing and face backlash for not doing anything.
Retromelon
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A good rule for disregarding predictions is whether it aligns with the best case scenario for what the predictor wants
Biden too. And probably Pence because he'll be doing all of Trump's work.
I don't think there will be another recession in 2 years. At least, I hope not.
Dems really need to get their shit together for 2018 or we are going to be the minority party for a looooooong time.
Christ I can't believe I've reached a reality where Rand Paul and Lindsey Graham almost appear sane
Abinash117
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I suspect this will come up on tax cuts, the infrastructure bill, and ACA.
If both tax cuts and ACA happens first then I doubt Democrats will support the infrastructure bill if it ever happens. Trump has no real plan for it and how it is done might turn off people. The price tag will make it a non starter for it. Considering Trump's "deal making" he'll have no leadership in Congress and might give up on it. I think no major legislation will happen until much late in next year.
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