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PoliGAF 2016 |OT16| Unpresidented
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i kinda like the loud guy analogy, so im gonna make my own
its like the US elected its strongest child to try and dominate all the other children. hopefully when we wake up the whole house isn't burnt down!
edit: strongest should read loudest
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Thankfully he's got nothing better to do.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Re:sexism towards Hillary during election
It should be getting twice the amount of attention the WWC/rural votes lost should be getting, but it's both obvious and difficult to unpack. Obvious because people say she was a bad campaigner, but a man running the same message, with the same lack of charisma, and the same ads would've won... So many arguments against her (by Trump and the media) were rooted it sexism.
However, it's difficult to unpack because some of those WWC and rural voters no doubt have a vicious streak of sexism in them, so did they vote against a woman, or did they vote for Trump? "Economic anxiety" or "Damn wimmin should know their place"? (For proof of this, witness the women with the "grope this" shirts. You can bet at least some of athem would be appalled if their daughter got assaulted, but because the women who got groped aren't relatives, they don't matter... Like Republican senators.)
It should be getting twice the amount of attention the WWC/rural votes lost should be getting, but it's both obvious and difficult to unpack. Obvious because people say she was a bad campaigner, but a man running the same message, with the same lack of charisma, and the same ads would've won... So many arguments against her (by Trump and the media) were rooted it sexism.
However, it's difficult to unpack because some of those WWC and rural voters no doubt have a vicious streak of sexism in them, so did they vote against a woman, or did they vote for Trump? "Economic anxiety" or "Damn wimmin should know their place"? (For proof of this, witness the women with the "grope this" shirts. You can bet at least some of athem would be appalled if their daughter got assaulted, but because the women who got groped aren't relatives, they don't matter... Like Republican senators.)
Clearly the L is for losers. also no lies detected.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
Wisconsin is so blue there
Goddammit fuck you Johnson and the assholes that voted for you
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
really look at that entire map. clinton did worse than her senate counterparts across the board. which, in every other year, we'd call a 'drag on the ticket.' does that apply here?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
It absolutely should apply. At that point, we move on to figure out why.
Female? Didn't relate enough to average American? Too many people bought into the caricature of her personality?
balladofwindfishes
Member
All of the above?
Clinton did worse than her Senate counterparts? Wait, she did?
Feingold, McGinty, Murphy, Duckworth, Strickland, Ross all under performed Hillary. Hassan, Cortez Masto ran about even. I mean, there's clearly an argument to be made for expanding the map to red states and red districts, but I don't think you can read one way or another that Hillary was a drag on the rest of the ticket.
Feingold, McGinty, Murphy, Duckworth, Strickland, Ross all under performed Hillary. Hassan, Cortez Masto ran about even. I mean, there's clearly an argument to be made for expanding the map to red states and red districts, but I don't think you can read one way or another that Hillary was a drag on the rest of the ticket.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
New republican talking points must have been distributed today, as several are quoted as saying that the Russian hack was beneficial because "The truth came out" about Hillary.
This is a completely ludicrous line of thought, and a very, VERY slippery slope, as these same words would be used against them if there was hack that released their own information.
Also, this should be interesting:
This is a completely ludicrous line of thought, and a very, VERY slippery slope, as these same words would be used against them if there was hack that released their own information.
Also, this should be interesting:
You see that sort of thing not only from the right, but from the far left as well.
Here we go again. So much for the fight Schumer and everyone else wanted to avoid over the DNC chair.
I don't find fighting a never ending primary going into a midterm interesting in the slightest. Sooner DNC chair gets named, the sooner we can move forward.
balladofwindfishes
Member
I'm going to love to see what sort of mind bending insanity the far left will pretend applies to Perez because he wasn't anointed by our holy lord and jesus, Saint Sanders.
Sirpopopop
Member
Republicans don't care about reason or hypocrisy.
Funny, those talking points hit GAF last night.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
And the gop have the gull to say shit Like "illegitimate" when trump pushed that for 8 years
excelsiorlef
Member
The horseshoe theory is completely true.
neurosisxeno
Member
"He's never won a real election."*
One and done.
* - I realize he won an AG spot but ehhhhhhh
neurosisxeno
Member
There really is no reason for Perez to run. Ellison is a relatively unifying figure and has already dedicated to quit his congressional seat to run the DNC full time as Chairman. He has pretty wide support and is an up-and-comer which helps the public perception as the DNC.
Hasa Diga Eebowai indeed.
balladofwindfishes
Member
It's going to be Ellison
It's just some political theater for drama. So Perez can back down and say he wants to unite the party blah blah.
It's just some political theater for drama. So Perez can back down and say he wants to unite the party blah blah.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
I'd rather Perez run for some office elsewhere anyways. He should run for governor of Maryland and make Hogan a good Republican (one who just lost his seat).
Also, speaking of the DNC chair race, my state's party leader is running for DNC chair now?
Also, speaking of the DNC chair race, my state's party leader is running for DNC chair now?
I don't really see what make her qualified, it's not like the IDP is some well-run machine that wins red-state victories, but I can't blame her for trying to get out of here I guess. Wasn't there another woman running though, the one that was with Planned Parenthood?Sally Boynton Brown said:
Cesare Borgia
Banned
No reason to run? Obama and allies wanted him to run.
Would I pick Perez or Ilyse Hogue over Ellison? Yes. But ultimately I don't think there are enough drastic differences between the candidates for this to become a do or die contest. There is no DWS here, all three are fine picks.
balladofwindfishes
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Maryland has a Republican governor??
How?
Why do all these hard blue states have Republican governors
How?
Why do all these hard blue states have Republican governors
Because the last D one implemented a tax that became a problem. R governors in blue states are not going to operate like regular GOPers.Maryland has a Republican governor??
How?
Why do all these hard blue states have Republican governors
spoiler: It's O'Malley, who ran for Pres after bad runs at both the city and state level.
neurosisxeno
Member
Maryland has a Republican governor??
How?
Why do all these hard blue states have Republican governors
VT just elected Phil Scott I believe. Granted he's basically a Blue Dog.
Ilyse Hogue, not Planned Parenthood, but NARAL.
modernlifeisANDY
Member
Well then:
FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...a-224pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.5761eaa5030a
FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...a-224pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.5761eaa5030a
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
Thanks, it just stood out because the email says that she's the only woman running.
RastaMentality
Banned
FBI is a shitshow.
Got the Shakes
Member
Wonder when Comey is also going to back the assessment that he himself intervened to help Trump win the election?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Oh jesus fuck Obama you have one month left, have a damn spine
Brawndo Addict
Banned
Jesus Obama, you might as well just say yeah they got away with it and they're going to do continue getting away with it.
aspiegamer
Member
Obama is way too professional about this. My god.
Calling the media out is still good. "Russia hacked the DNC but what you took from it and ran stories about daily were things like risotto recipes. We let you know what happened, so don't look at me."
Calling the media out is still good. "Russia hacked the DNC but what you took from it and ran stories about daily were things like risotto recipes. We let you know what happened, so don't look at me."
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Maryland has a Republican governor??
How?
Why do all these hard blue states have Republican governors
Because republicans are smart and organized enough to run the right type of candidates in certain areas.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Same talking points used by several people from a certain sect on the left too.
rocketknight
Member
He's really letting Comey off the hook.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Sure. By who? Absolutely no-one who voted for Trump
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Maryland has a Republican governor??
How?
Why do all these hard blue states have Republican governors
Sounds like most people were fed up by quickly rising tolls.
The right also went all benghazi on "rain taxes", which was a tax by land area to pay for cleaning up polition that was getting into the water when it rained. I don't know how much people actually cared about that individually, but it played into the real rediculous taxes increases they were seeing.
The top maryland income tax bracket also got raised from 4.75% to 5.75%. I have to wonder if they should have pushed that farther to maybe ease up on increasing the more noticable tolls and vice taxes.
Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
Fixed. That's the whole point. Let's not pretend that the people who have to build campaign strategies around the electoral college, or the people who have always reported election-night results state-by-state, or the people who paid attention to those broadcasts, or the people who paid attention in school, were blindsided by its existence or significance. It's pure politics.
whyamihere
Banned
I mean, I've been against the EC since forever, but I also think that we shouldn't get rid of it retroactively for an election you lost. I think that's fair.
StopMakingSense
Member
Maryland has a Republican governor??
How?
Why do all these hard blue states have Republican governors
States are a lot less blue/red when it comes to governorships, since so many local aspects can affect the options of the electorates and since the state of the state ties so directly to the governor in the way, say, it doesn't to a senator.
Also these governors tend to be very middle of the road politically.
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