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Donna Brazil brings up a positive of this going on long. More voters registering in States like Penn, NC and later states that wee need November. And remember Bernie is going to endorse clinton if he loses or vice versa.
Good good.I don't think it's final, but looking at NY Elections page, she's +17 net delegates
Good good.
When do we find out about the GOP results in Idaho and Hawaii?
I like Bernie but I'm a Hillary person I wish my Bernie friends could say the same. Instead I get Hillary for prison 2016 jokes and feel the bern every time he wins anything.
So fucking annoying
I don't know much about Ohio really, but Western Michigan is one of the last strongholds of the Religious Right. If you look at the map: http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/michiganFeel like this just fucks OH up even more
Exactly.This is why everybody cheering on Trump because of poor polls in the GE is an idiot. Trump could win in November.
Think Bernie will win either Ohio or Illinois now. Not sure about both
I can get behind Obama and I can get behind Clinton, but I can't get behind Bernie. I fucking like Wall Street. Banks are essential to our economy.
If the Democrats go the way of Sanders I'll have to go Republican.
She is Romney. Inevitable nominee that is challenged by an insurgent faction of the party. Democrats might get their own Trump in 2020s.
It's more because it could portend things next weeks. But it's the same thing they've been doing. NH was her end, NV and SC his. Not to mention the lol predictions on the GOP sideIt's actually funny how her lead expands but Bernie is the winner because of media perceptions. I get it and it's an incredible story of polling failure, but man, the media doesn't really like explaining how the system really works if it goes against the narrative.
At the end of February it was 1323 to 1222, Obama over Clinton.Can anyone did up how delegate counts were in 2008 at this point and how they played out.
Making the big assumption that HRC wins two terms, I wonder if there are even any young up-and-coming Dems on the bench who can credibly even capitalize on Sanders' message going forward.
Nobody being mentioned is really that liberal. Gillibrand was in the Blue Dogs (but became more progressive when she joined the senate). Booker is corporatist. Remains to be known if Harris becomes a massive progressive in her senate term.Making the big assumption that HRC wins two terms, I wonder if there are even any young up-and-coming Dems on the bench who can credibly even capitalize on Sanders' message going forward.
She is Romney. Inevitable nominee that is challenged by an insurgent faction of the party. Democrats might get their own Trump in 2020s.
Govs and there are 2018, 2020, 2022, elections. Plus who knows if structural changes won't change what voters care about. Who though this is what we were going to be all about in 2007 before the recession? Or how on 2000 we could have predicted the issues of 2008?Making the big assumption that HRC wins two terms, I wonder if there are even any young up-and-coming Dems on the bench who can credibly even capitalize on Sanders' message going forward.
Larry Sabato
‏@LarrySabato
The machine will produce a Clinton nomination in the end, but the passion for her is absent. Only fear of the GOP nominee can get her a win
It's a given that his model will be wrong sometimes. But come on, Nate! The drift into normal polling is ridiculous. I dunno if I wasn't following him closely enough in 2012 and 2014 or something because I don't remember him acting like this at all.
He's not got Sanders authenticity and history. He was a lawyer and has no activists credd.We already have our own Trump. His name is Alan Grayson.
It's more because it could portend things next weeks. But it's the same thing they've been doing. NH was her end, NV and SC his. Not to mention the lol predictions on the GOP side
Oh shit if he runs for president.We already have our own Drumpf. His name is Alan Grayson.
Mine were already bad. Now that "LOL ALL THE MEDIA WAS WRONG LOL" and "Ignore the polls" is going to be a thing, it's going to be so damn bad.I'm actually scared of what my social media feeds are going to look like leading up to, during, and after the dem primary in MO. Should I just ditch them for a while?
2008's a bit weird because Super Tuesday was a lot more frontloaded that year. I'll see how the states actually compare, at least.
Oh well that was an upset. I missed the fun. How much are people freaking out?
What's the net delegate change today?
Clinton plus 20 some odd. So of course panic aboundsOh well that was an upset. I missed the fun. How much are people freaking out?
What's the net delegate change today?
Trump has no knowledge of ground games or analytics, which is what has allowed Cruz to ambush him in several states he should have won. The Clinton machine (which is basically the Obama machine) will stomp him when it comes to campaign fundamentals like that.This is why everybody cheering on Trump because of poor polls in the GE is an idiot. Trump could win in November.
Oh well that was an upset. I missed the fun. How much are people freaking out?
What's the net delegate change today?
Oh well that was an upset. I missed the fun. How much are people freaking out?
What's the net delegate change today?
So Clinton over preforming? And aren't there less delegates to win?Okay, counting IA/NH/NV/SC + AL/AS/AR/CO/GA/MA/MN/OK/TN/TX/VT/VA + KS/LA/ME/MI/MS/NE:
2008:
Obama 653
Clinton 549
2016:
Clinton 754
Sanders 541
Hillary comes out with more.
Not that anyone's talking about that.
I can get behind Obama and I can get behind Clinton, but I can't get behind Bernie. I fucking like Wall Street. Banks are essential to our economy.
If the Democrats go the way of Sanders I'll have to go Republican.
Deepest bench ever!The republican party picked the worst time to destroy themselves with Cruz/Trump. This would be a winnable election with a decent or good candidate.
So Clinton over preforming? And aren't there less delegates to win?
So Clinton over preforming? And aren't there less delegates to win?
The republican party picked the worst time to destroy themselves with Cruz/Trump. This would be a winnable election with a decent or good candidate.
I can get behind Obama and I can get behind Clinton, but I can't get behind Bernie. I fucking like Wall Street. Banks are essential to our economy.
If the Democrats go the way of Sanders I'll have to go Republican.
On the flip side, this is the perfect time to play a Clinton card. A 5 beats a 2.The republican party picked the worst time to destroy themselves with Cruz/Trump. This would be a winnable election with a decent or good candidate.