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PoliGAF 2016 |OT4| Tyler New Chief Exit Pollster at CNN

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CCS

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I adore you, but you're not allowed to show Laganja while I'm eating breakfast. Shit repeats on me.

I'm sorry bae, forgot you Yanks are having breakfast and still waking up from dreams about spreading freedom across the globe :p
 
I'm sorry bae, forgot you Yanks are having breakfast and still waking up from dreams about spreading freedom across the globe :p

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I ❤️ 👴🏻 & 👵🏻 they are both 👌🏻 & way better than 👺👹👿💩
 
I ❤️ 👴🏻 & 👵🏻 they are both 👌🏻 & way better than 👺👹👿💩

Cher totally soured on Bernie, especially after the abortion thing. Cher is a national treasure.

CHER FOR VEEP!

Let's make America gay again.
 
Anyone else feel like this $15 / hour rally is a perfectly laid trap for Sanders to try to attack her on it at the debate? The campaign has shown that they will pick up on media's lines of attack and try to use them (see the whole unannounced Central Park rally that somehow millions of New Yorkers had RSVPd for already). It would be such an easy rebuttal from her
 

B-Dubs

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Anyone else feel like this $15 / hour rally is a perfectly laid trap for Sanders to try to attack her on it at the debate? The campaign has shown that they will pick up on media's lines of attack and try to use them (see the whole unannounced Central Park rally that somehow millions of New Yorkers had RSVPd for already). It would be such an easy rebuttal from her

He's going to be too busy being on the defensive after that Daily News interview. I heard NY1 is doing the debate and they don't play. I can't imagine Hillary let's it go either.

Edit: it's Wolf and CNN but NY1 is sending a reporter to ask questions.
 
That interview is legit terrifying. Bernie wants to be President so he can launch huge scale banking and financial reform, and that's how aware of the details? Combine that with his apparent disdain for anyone who isn't as ideologically "pure" as he is, and I don't think it's exaggerating to say that a Sanders presidency would be a complete shambles. How dare he, how dare he think that when your campaign is running on a platform of arguably the biggest financial and regulatory reform of the last 60 years or so, it is acceptable to have such a poorly thought out, destructive, and useless plan.
Even if Dems were able to win back Congress, i doubt that they would go along with him in the House
 
He's going to be too busy being on the defensive after that Daily News interview. I heard NY1 is doing the debate and they don't play. I can't imagine Hillary let's it go either.

Edit: it's Wolf and CNN but NY1 is sending a reporter to ask questions.

Jeez I hadn't heard about it till just now... It's pretty bad.
 
I thought Sestak was awful.

Why is McGinty behind when the White House endorsed her?
Sestak probably has name rec still from his run in 2010.

Honestly I don't see what the big problem is with him, he ran a good campaign in 2010 and he'll probably do just as well as McGinty. But McGinty seems to be more tied to the national party. I dunno, if Sestak wins and the DSCC spites him by not supporting him financially I'll be very disappointed that they'd piss away a winnable seat over something so petty.

Also McGinty is making up serious ground so that's good for her too.
 

Don't worry. He'll just earnest explain the context of his praise of bread lines, his pro-Castro comments, his anti-charity speech, the benefits of his tax plan, the difference between a socialist and a social democrat, etc. Republican attacks will have no effect on his favorables whatsoever. He's the electable one and the superdelegates will surely support him regardless of who wins the primaries.
 
I guess our final Wisconsin poll from Emerson

Cruz 40
Trump 35
Kasich 21

Sanders 51
Clinton 43

The democratic numbers are a 14 point swing from the Emerson poll a week ago. Is Emerson good?

Dunno but Sanders is going to be kicking Clinton tail the next few weeks, at least the pundits say so.

Apparently Clinton has high-tailed it to New York for campaigning because she knows she can't win in the current states' primaries.
 
Guys, I miss PennyDancing.gif. Those were good times.

I mean, obviously, it's good that we don't need to post it anymore, but Happy Endings isn't on Netflix, so it was the most I could usually see of it on a given day.
 

Hindl

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Guys, I miss PennyDancing.gif. Those were good times.

I mean, obviously, it's good that we don't need to post it anymore, but Happy Endings isn't on Netflix, so it was the most I could usually see of it on a given day.

There's still plenty of LGBT issues where a victory could warrant the Penny gif! Don't worry I'm sure you'll see it again soon
 
Dunno but Sanders is going to be kicking Clinton tail the next few weeks, at least the pundits say so.

Apparently Clinton has high-tailed it to New York for campaigning because she knows she can't win in the current states' primaries.
Wisconsin and Wyoming are the only contests between now and New York.

Focusing on NY is smart because it's the big prize. Clinton's margin of victory (if the polling holds) will dwarf any gain Sanders has made in the last slew of caucuses.
 
But I also don't think most people want to break up the banks so fuck Bernie.

I don't know about that. I think most people view major banks as Mr. Potter from It's a Wonderful Life; maybe Gordon Gekko. They have this comically ignorant view that it's just a couple fatcats sitting around in a Scrooge McDuckian vault swimming in bullion and the unfairness of it infuriates them; where's their pool filled with gold? You have Bernie Sanders talking about Wall Street as though it consisted solely of Randolph and Mortimer Duke making wagers on bum fights and he's got millions of supporters chanting "break them up" without having a single clue how that works. I think you could make the case that most people want to break up the banks specifically because they are ignorant of the financial world and the market in general and they assume smaller banks are better. Maybe that's just because I come from a liberal bastion and "break up the banks" was a rallying cry well before we'd ever heard Bernie Sanders' name, but it's an argument that has a lot of sway with people whose entire knowledge of the stock market is based on Dickensian portrayals in works of fiction.
 

Bowdz

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Lol, da fuck?

Weaver is such a sack of shit. I blame him for all of Bernie's recent fumbles/dickishness. The guy is the best of the worst type of political advisor. He has complete loyalty to his candidate with NONE to the broader party and it increasingly sounds like he'll be willing to blow it up if it *helps* Bernie in his mind. I'll not be surprised in the least when we start hearing murmurings from Weaver that Sanders might run third party.
 
I've said for a while that Bernie ought to drop out and then go on a national evangelism tour pushing his message and pushing congresspeople to accept it. He could start enrolling the more liberal candidates in his cause and make it a real mandate for next year. Instead, he's pissing on every other potential ally he has and making himself look bad in the process.

Given what he's demonstrated in his long political career, I don't have much hope for this, sadly. He's had a long time to try and build coalitions and help get allies elected. He prefers to just lecture people. It's who he is.

Even if Dems were able to win back Congress, i doubt that they would go along with him in the House

Yes. He would not be able to work with a Democratic Congress. See above.

Obama had to work very hard to accomplish what he did (which was actually a lot) in the two years he had a Democratic Congress. There's no way Sanders would put in the proper effort or even know how really.
 

Effect

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He's not. With her current pledged+supers lead. She will hit the number on June 7th as long as her leads in the big states hold which is very likely.

Also there is no way the super delegates would switch from her to support Sanders. He can talk about that as much as he wants but it's not going to happen. It's tossing out a false hope to Sanders supporters that are going to be very angry when it doesn't happen.
 
You guys are basically seeing how annoying the Clinton campaign was in 08
Honestly, being an Obama '08/Clinton '16 voter does help prevent me from getting too upset with Sanders. I can chalk a lot of what his campaign is doing right now to what the losing campaign in a drawn out primary does.
 

NeoXChaos

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She should be at a minimum 2000 pledged+supers lead by the end of the month. Tonight going to push her to about 1300 pledged. NY could get her to 1450. The following week could get her to 1650+467 supers = 2100.

May she could net between 50-100 more pledged putting her around 2200 total. June 4th and 5th of PR and Guam net her another 50 bringing it to 2250. She clinches on June 7th.
 

Holmes

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Trump leads Clinton in Mississippi in the General Election by only 3 points
It's 46-43 Trump-Clinton. Seriously doubt Clinton would target Mississippi but it being in low single digits, and Missouri being a small Clinton win like that other poll suggested would be a big shift.
 
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