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PoliGAF 2016 |OT4| Tyler New Chief Exit Pollster at CNN
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Bernie has a terrible record as a team player but didn't Hillary campaign said that Obama wasn't qualified to be commander in chief in 2008? We all know that she still endorsed and worked her ass off to get Obama elected.
My point is that if Bernie endorse (or not) or campaign (or not)for Hillary after the primary has more to do about who he is than what he said in his campaign.
cartoon_soldier
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He is not. Bernie has zero plans to accept his nomination loss and he will keep telling his supporters that the establishment stole it.
Macho Madness
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Take a look at the regions for the real story.
Trump may be fucked.
Sirpopopop
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Bernie is not going to endorse Hillary.
She'll still win in the fall.
Where this will hurt is downticket when the Bernie supporters sit out...
She'll still win in the fall.
Where this will hurt is downticket when the Bernie supporters sit out...
cartoon_soldier
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They are already sitting out.
15% of Bernie voters did not vote in SC election.
Only 4% of Hillary voters didn't.
That's bad. This will really hinder youth turnout. Bernie is a deeply flawed candidate who could never win a general election and he's about to throw a wrench in the entire thing regardless.
Starting to legit hate him. I hope someone primaries his ignorant ass in VT.
You sound like a Bernie supporter.
How so?
cartoon_soldier
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Can we have Bernie primaried because he is not a Democrat?
jack_package_200
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Really starting to feel the Sanders hate right now. Fuck you and your revolution
Macho Madness
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Can we inhale helium?
Thing is, Hillary could have completely hated Obama to the core in 2008 (I don't think she did. I think the respect she has for him is genuine at this point), but she would have endorsed him regardless because she's loyal to the Democratic party and she keeps her game stepped up. We have watched this woman put her feelings to the side in pursuit of a higher cause time and time again.
But, clearly. Sanders is petty. His feelings are soft as Charmin Ultra 3-ply, and outside of caucusing with them out of convenience he seems to not have any fucks in his purse for the Democratic Party.
I'm FULLY expecting him to pull a Petty Wap in the end.
Macho Madness
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Can we talk about how Dennis Hastert molested like 4 kids
Sanders is popular because of what he represents and what he is. It doesn't matter and his constituents don't care that he is not a democrat. Primarying him would be a waste of time. Can we please just focus on reality here which is that he will get over this and and we will look back on this with laughter in three months?
Macho Madness
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Where's ivy
I will look back with maniacal laughter after Queen wins in the fall, sweeping in such a Dem Senate majority that the Dems are able to marginalize Bernie's ass.
California is going to be interesting.
There's a huge liberal/progressive base in that state (obviously), but it's a lot more moderate than people who don't live there seem to think it is. Every Bernie supporter I know here in PA thinks Bernie's going to take it in a landslide because "Duh...it's California!" I don't know about that. Don't let the Coachella fool you.
Huge minority population
Surprisingly big conservative base
Lots of affluent people
Population that's not poised to hate Hillary (she took LA and the surrounding counties in 2008 pretty decisively if I remember correctly, and that's where the bulk of the votes are going to come from)
Talked to my family a few days ago, and The Hood seems to be mostly be going for Hillary.
There's a huge liberal/progressive base in that state (obviously), but it's a lot more moderate than people who don't live there seem to think it is. Every Bernie supporter I know here in PA thinks Bernie's going to take it in a landslide because "Duh...it's California!" I don't know about that. Don't let the Coachella fool you.
Huge minority population
Surprisingly big conservative base
Lots of affluent people
Population that's not poised to hate Hillary (she took LA and the surrounding counties in 2008 pretty decisively if I remember correctly, and that's where the bulk of the votes are going to come from)
Talked to my family a few days ago, and The Hood seems to be mostly be going for Hillary.
They'd still need him again 2 years later after republicans inevitably gain seats in the midterm elections.
Because he's being completely irrational to the point of doing more harm than good. I haven't liked Bernie for a while now since he ran for Pres. I never felt compelled to hate him this much until now though. Nor would I have cared to say that I'd like to see him out of the Senate until yesterday. It's not just that i don't like what he is saying but he's a horrible politician with no realistic goals who is surrounded by morons who have no idea how to win in the fall. What he's saying isn't just what turns me off, it's how and when. He is NOT helping the party prepare for the fall. He's not even challenging her really; he's throwing gas on a fire.
We do not have the luxury of dragging this out until the convention. It isn't 2008.
I am not the kind of person who wants every democrat I disagree with to be primaried, but Bernie is an exception.
Yellowtail
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Weaver on MSNBC just now:
Perfect.
benicillin
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Genuinely a good response from Clinton.
Yeah, anyone assuming that Bernie takes California because we're a pretty blue state doesn't understand California. It's nothing like Vermont or Massachusetts (which Bernie should have taken using this logic). If the rest of the state was as liberal as SF/Berkely, Bernie would take it in a heartbeat, but the rest of the state simply isn't that liberal.
shinra-bansho
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Weaver is so shit. Like laughably shit.
And yeh, that response is exactly how she should be handling it. (While screaming internally.)
And yeh, that response is exactly how she should be handling it. (While screaming internally.)
BotoxAgent
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da fuq is this bullshit!?
This is hilarious. All Hillary has done is poke at that disastrous interview Bernie gave, and she's hardly the only one. If this is how his campaign handles being under the microscope really for the first time all primary, then he has no business going near the general.
I mean, peep the language: they're literally demonizing her at this point.
Macho Madness
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He was talking about her fundraising but still lol
Officerrob
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Bernie's favorables are about to take a pretty big hit with Dems
Macho Madness
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Okay so
Will MOM endorse tonight and if so who
Also will Dennis hastert be punished for molesting kids
Will MOM endorse tonight and if so who
Also will Dennis hastert be punished for molesting kids
Orbis Tabula
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Nice! I was thinking about buying some of those.
I really wish campaigns sold shot glasses. I'd buy a Bernie and a Hillary one if I could.
plagiarize
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I'm glad she did. It's a major reason why I prefer Clinton over Sanders... and the common sense gun reform she supports is actually something most people agree is a good idea, when you remove the framing of 'OBUMMER WANTS TO TAKE YOUR GUNS' paranoia from it.
Most NRA members agree with expanded background checks, for example.
Not saying it won't play badly, but Clinton is going to get smeared on the issue whether she stays silent about it or not. So it's probably best to actually try and get her position out there, and it should play fairly well in the primaries.
That law preventing people from suing gun companies is some special treatment bullshit, that reeks of the kind of corporate cronyism than Sanders is always accusing Clinton of, so it's a good point to make that Sanders supported it. Gun companies likely would win every law suit brought against them, but if you make a lethal weapon, I don't think you should be protected from some of the fallout from profiting off of fire arms. Major corporations face frivolous law suits all the time. It's part of the territory. Unless you profit from making lethal weapons of course.
Macho Madness
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Democrats REALLY like gun control, especially in the northeast. So right before closed primaries in that region sounds like the best time to be touting it.
They don't vote for anyone but Bernie, anyway.
Officerrob
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Bill needs to be kept on his leash
plagiarize
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It amazes me how terrible Bill is at campaigning for Hillary, given how great he is at it under any other circumstance.
He loves her. Hard to stay cool.
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