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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam
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Nothing is more terrifying than a man who thinks he's right with God.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Marxists are still trash!
https://paisleycurrah.com/2016/04/2...lity-maybe-its-time-to-bring-back-the-binary/
Yes, anti-abortion laws are getting limited scrutiny because of the elimination of the gender binary. How high was the author before pushing submit on this? Has he or she been in contact with reality in the last 15 years?
Anyway, reading through Corey Robin's slow meltdown is fun:
https://twitter.com/CoreyRobin
https://paisleycurrah.com/2016/04/2...lity-maybe-its-time-to-bring-back-the-binary/
Yes, anti-abortion laws are getting limited scrutiny because of the elimination of the gender binary. How high was the author before pushing submit on this? Has he or she been in contact with reality in the last 15 years?
Anyway, reading through Corey Robin's slow meltdown is fun:
https://twitter.com/CoreyRobin
Spoiled Milk
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At least we can say it's obvious that Paul Ryan isn't running for president anymore.
Exactly my first thought as well. In fact I sent this gif to a friend with that quote as soon as I saw it, and before I saw this post
Grazie!
ItWasMeantToBe19
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We're just three years away from Ted Nugent announcing his presidential campaign run though.
This gif will give me nightmares for a while.
the left doesn't understand that people want dignity!
that's why we on the right demonize those who have fallen on hard times and receive welfare - so that when they say they don't want to be stigmatized by us we can say that they don't want welfare because of the social stigmas associated with it (that we created)
also, dignity does not apply to homosexual people because of reasons
BreezyLimbo
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saltypickles
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Left Twitter has become so awful ever since the New York primary. I'm going to unfollow all of them once the election is over, there's no way I'll be able to take their tantrums about Hillary for the next four years if she wins.
NYCmetsfan
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Why does Ted Nugent have to be so crazy? Stranglehold is such an amazing song
Same reason Bruce Springsteen is the greatest American, that's just the way it is.
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/726894495946657794
I feel like Bernie's talking to me
You also don't need a PhD to predict that a $15 minimum wage will do fuck-all for standards of living if we don't buy products produced elsewhere at $5/hr.
Bernie's economics knowledge is close to zero.
I feel like Bernie's talking to me
You also don't need a PhD to predict that a $15 minimum wage will do fuck-all for standards of living if we don't buy products produced elsewhere at $5/hr.
Bernie's economics knowledge is close to zero.
excelsiorlef
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Tad and his ad agency need that sweet sweet cash flow
I don't blame her. I wouldn't want Cruz touching my hand, either.
brainchild
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Make it stop!
excelsiorlef
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I thought you were for Sanders.
HUELEN10
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I am, but at the same time last I checked, my district was more Clinton. Furthermore, this person was NPA too, changed to Democrat JUST to vote for Sanders like me, and then said she'd switch back... except she didn't. Like, call me naive, but I don't like the fact that someone who's a Bernie-loving temp-DINO like me is staying and playing the dem card just to get Sanders in... It seems. it just doesn't seem honest.
Am I being too naive? It is just not sitting well with me, and now I feel pressured to go dem again to vote for them... except it doesn't feel right.
excelsiorlef
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I have no idea because none of that makes any sense.
I mean she seems to actually be walking the walk and you're getting reared up to vote for a mega racist, so I don't think you have any grasp on what feels right.
Let me put it this way, I have respect for her.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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The far left people on the internet (Hi, Glenn Greenwald) seem to think that it's a Zionist conspiracy that a former Mayor of London compared Zionists to Hitler...?
How does this conspiracy work...?
Also, these people are legit stupid:
https://electronicintifada.net/cont...d-uk-labour-partys-anti-semitism-crisis/16481
I mean, I think that only 7% of a country saying "Yes, I hate Jews" is probably not that amazing of a data point in your favor. I'm pretty sure that only 7% of Americans would say "Yes, I hate black people" but racism clearly exists in America!
How does this conspiracy work...?
Also, these people are legit stupid:
https://electronicintifada.net/cont...d-uk-labour-partys-anti-semitism-crisis/16481
I mean, I think that only 7% of a country saying "Yes, I hate Jews" is probably not that amazing of a data point in your favor. I'm pretty sure that only 7% of Americans would say "Yes, I hate black people" but racism clearly exists in America!
excelsiorlef
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Wait is Greenwald actually supporting that idiot MP?
HUELEN10
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I guess my biggest problem is, if Bernie is truly a DINO, wouldn't DINOs swinging things in his favor kind of be disingenuous to the Democratic party as a whole? Maybe I am overthinking it? I don't know, it just doesn't sit well with me. I wish her luck, but as NPA, it's not like I am able to vote for her anyways, and if I was, I guess I couldn't vote for her for the same reason I can't vote for some of the other candidates.
brainchild
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It is incumbent upon a party to represent its constituents, not the other way around.
I swear fealty to no party. At the same time, this is the system that we have, so we have to abide by their rules. Irrespective of your feelings, this is the reality that we live in.
HUELEN10
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I guess when you put it that way, you are right and I am just overthinking. you said it best; for better or for worse, the way the system is right is IS the reality.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Greenwald just posted that "Tories are exploiting Antisemitism!"
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/726368483139837952
Which, you know, if Jeb Bush had said "go back to Africa" to a bunch of black people, I think Democrats would "exploit" that too by talking about it a lot.
The link I posted goes deeper into the conspiracy, but Greenwald is just the only notable person on the stupid left.
excelsiorlef
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Happy to see that Greenwald continues to drop into irrelevancy.
Why would this surprise you? Greenwald has been saying and doing dumb, far left shit for a long time now. He thinks the unrest in Brazil is a USA sponsored coup. He's one of those far left people who sees the west as the source of all evil no matter what, and automatically supports anyone who disagrees with the west. Livingstone is right up his ally - I'd be shocked if he wasn't supporting him. (Livingston after all tried to do an oil deal with Venezuela for London, whilst talking about USA sponsored opposition).
excelsiorlef
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I foolishly thought that not even he could come out in defense of "Hitler was a zionist"-Man
You know, Ken Livingstone is kinda wrong about Hitler (though there were people in the Nazi party who considered leveraging Zionism to ethnically cleanse Jews out of Europe and there were zionists who attempted to contact the Nazi party in order to fight against the British rule of Palestine) but he's absolutely right that there is a very strong effort to brand anyone who disagree with Israeli policies, especially in regard to the occupation of the west bank as an anti-semite.
I mean just last month that leader of the Austrian FPO, which is fucking Nazi party, visited Israel and was greeted warmly by member of the parliament, because Nazi Shmazi, what really matter that he hates dem Arabs now and cool with the settlements.
And sheeeeit, the head of Israel's propaganda apparatus (yes, Israel has such a thing) called Obama anti-semitic.
While this is true, defending Labour over anti-Semitism at the moment is a bad idea. In the last few months:
-Multiple important members of the Labour party, either MPs or people like Livingstone have been in the news for anti-Semitic comments.
-Student Labour Societies at leading universities, including Oxford, have been exposed has having a deep running vein of anti-Semitism within them.
-The NUS, which is effectively a feeder group for Labour politicians, has elected a blatant anti-Semite as leader.
-The Labour leadership's response to any given scandal has been to ignore it and take no action until press coverage has left them no alternative, which does not exactly inspire confidence in their determination to tackle anti-Semitism.
I'm not overly familiar with those people resume, but Livingstone quote (at least what I've seen) really didn't strike me as anti-semitic.
But I might've missed something, any quotes?
And again, you can be fucking wrong about history and fucking wrong about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and not be anti-semitic.
I mean, Bernie himself has said if he doesn't get the nomination he'll be sticking with the Democrats and trying to influence them internally. I don't see why his supporters should feel bad for acting in a similar manner.
googleplex
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OMG this is just painful to watch.
Bear in mind that Livingstone's comments were made whilst defending someone who said that all Israelis should be moved to America to solve the conflict.
Jack Remington
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No way this is real, right? Has to be edited.
Not to mention he's caucused with the party for decades, even when he was listed as an Independent. Frankly, I imagine Bernie would be repulsed at the notion that people voting for him would vote for Trump, just as he's repulsed by Trump.
OuterLimits
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I think I saw a speech of Fiorina introducing Cruz and she falls down. The way she falls, it makes it seem like a trap door opened up beneath her. Most of the crowd seemed to ignore it though. Has anyone else seen that?
excelsiorlef
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That's a silly, non workable solution, but I don't think it's anti-semitic (or at least, not necessarily anti-semitic).
p.s.
It's probably worth noting that there were a whole lot of Jews in the 19th and early 20th century who thought the solution to violence and racism that Jews were facing in Europe was to move them to the US. In fact, they were way more numerous than those who thought the solution is to move them to British Palestine.
There's a bunch of other stuff she said that leans towards the anti-semitic. This is a good summary by the Guardian:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...-events-leading-to-mps-suspension-from-labour
OuterLimits
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I wonder if Pence felt nauseous after seeing that NBC/Marist poll yesterday. He is campaigning with Cruz today, but is probably wishing he had stayed out of it. His endorsement was rather weak to begin with. I still think it will be a close race, but perhaps Trump does win the state. Nate Silver had the state like 70% Cruz until that poll yesterday. Now he has Trump 69%. For some reason Silver has Trump chances dropping in California even though no new polls have come out to show Cruz gaining momentum really.
Fox News was showing the Cruz +16 poll a bunch Fri and Sat, but hasn't mentioned the Marist Trump +15 poll much. One of these polls is going to be off big time it seems.
Just saw the Cruz and Chuck Todd back and forth. I think Todd asked him 5 times or more if he would support Trump if he wins. Cruz never answered and just said Trump is like Hillary and Trump won't win the nomination.
It seems Bernie keeps giving conflicting messages. One minute it seems like he is dropping out, the next minute he is talking about a contested convention. Overall, I expected to Sanders and Cruz to win Indiana, but I may be completely wrong on both races.
Fox News was showing the Cruz +16 poll a bunch Fri and Sat, but hasn't mentioned the Marist Trump +15 poll much. One of these polls is going to be off big time it seems.
Just saw the Cruz and Chuck Todd back and forth. I think Todd asked him 5 times or more if he would support Trump if he wins. Cruz never answered and just said Trump is like Hillary and Trump won't win the nomination.
It seems Bernie keeps giving conflicting messages. One minute it seems like he is dropping out, the next minute he is talking about a contested convention. Overall, I expected to Sanders and Cruz to win Indiana, but I may be completely wrong on both races.
She seem to be very much against the current government and policies of Israel, which is fine, she's probably an anti-zionist, which you may think is not okay, but that doesn't make her an anti-semite. And it's certainly doesn't make the person who associated with her one.
Let's get real now, this is all about the occupation of the west bank and the settlements, Israel and most of the Jewish community leader have no problem with racists, even people like Heinz-Christian fuckgin Strache as long as they support "their side".
p.s.
And for the record, I think Nazi comparisons are almost always a bad idea, this case is no exception. Not the least of it because now everyone talks about anti-semitism which is a rather minor problem in the UK right now instead of the fact that Israel is holding millions of people without basic human rights for half a century, which is the (very important) issue she was trying to raise.
His polls-plus model factors in endorsements, so I guess Pence moved the needle a little. That should be corrected once new polls come out showing it really had no effect.
excelsiorlef
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Man Sanders would have some interesting issues in the GE, turns out he only pays his Senate interns 12$ (which is actually pretty cool a lot of interns don't get paid period) but it's still a funny image of a guy calling for 15$ an hour not paying that. Find it also kinda ironic that he pays what Clinton has generally been calling for.
He'd have to explain out loud and repeatedly why if he's for 15$ an hour he doesn't live by it.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/services/internships
Like this should 100% be a non issue, but it highlights the unique issues a candidate who runs on on a purity litmus test platform would face. Even tiny specks of dirt tend to show on someone who wears a pristine white suit.
He'd have to explain out loud and repeatedly why if he's for 15$ an hour he doesn't live by it.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/services/internships
Like this should 100% be a non issue, but it highlights the unique issues a candidate who runs on on a purity litmus test platform would face. Even tiny specks of dirt tend to show on someone who wears a pristine white suit.
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