Dad chuckled. "Welcome to the Republican Party."
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam
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Dad chuckled. "Welcome to the Republican Party."
"Clinton, picking the hot sauce off the table and telling Biden that she would use it to market herself to African Americans in New York 8 years later, quietly receded into her chaste, cold chambers to avoid watching the carnage of killing Osama Bin Laden." That's the next sentence ont he page.
Apparently, according to her book, Obama agreed and the only reason they didn't do it was the fog came a day early.
I like the whole, "I did not seek a correction." :lol
The audacity to speak ill of such an important night! lol
j_k_redtail
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Well, she wasn't wrong. Regardless of how the mission turned out, he had a good reason not to be there. And if it turned out poorly while he was attending the WHCAD, the optics would be terrible. So what if a few DC politicos gossip about his absence for a few hours?
I have a funny feeling trump may get over 50% of the vote or come close to it when Indiana votes on Tuesday. Even if cruz got crushed by Trump in Indiana he's still staying in the race.
hammysaurusrex
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Correct, if super-delegates were given proportionally based on states won and then counted as normal delegate, Clinton would actually look even better percentage-wise than she already does.
I simply have no idea where this argument is coming from within the Bernie camp - it's like they think Washington is representative of all the states Bernie won or something.
excelsiorlef
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LOL wtf, does this guy think all the States left are Oregon like states?
All Sanders needs to do is win 64% of everything, sure he's not even polling at 64% in California, and sure he won't win New Jersey, and sure he's not polling to win Indiana by 64% either, nor is he going to win New Mexico at 64% nor is he going to win DC let alone at 64%.
Basileus777
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Cruz has to stay in until June 7th when Trump seals the deal.
And you're using a really strange Trump script.
It's unlikely since she's probably got all or most of those already. Either way, Sanders' campaign is full of hypocrisies on this since it ultimately boils down to, "supers in states I won should vote for me because I won the state. Supers in states Clinton won should vote for me because I'm the better candidate against Trump." It's self-serving bullshit to mask a desire for supers to override the will of the people after he spent all fall and winter decrying their very existence for the possibility of them doing just such a thing.
excelsiorlef
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Yeah he'd be less of a hypocrite if he just flat out said Supers should ignore the will of the state (like they currently do if they wish) and vote for me, instead of arguing some bizarre hyrbid where the will of the people only counts in states he's won.
Or maybe they could vote in the goddamned midterms.
Aaron Strife
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I mean, yes, that too.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Isn't CNN or some other network doing a 5 year anniversary special of the raid on OBL?
Him, Devine or Weaver made a comment that the supers from states that Hillary has won should vote for him because of GE head to head polls.
Basically it's just "vote for me because... reasons. I wanna be pres plz
" nonsense.The Technomancer
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Also man, the email thing is not sticking. Over at my conservative aunt and uncle's for dinner and even they recognize its bullshit. Also they hate everyone on the GOP side this cycle except for Kasich
Tire fire
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If he doesn't release his delegates, he can seriously get fucked.
Jack Remington
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I don't really get the hype. She seems like a decent person, but... yay, a district attorney! Woot.
What am I missing?
What happens if he doesn't? She still wins with supers on the first ballot anyway and it's over right?
balladofwindfishes
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It actually seems to be sticking more with liberals than conservatives lol
But I think mostly for the far left, they don't really believe it, they just want to believe it's a hail mary to get Bernie nominated.
Aaron Strife
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Couldn't they just institute a rule giving the nomination to whoever wins a plurality of delegates? Though I know the GOP would actively oppose that idea given their current situation.
Yeah. Strictly speaking, Clinton did not release her delegates in 2008, but this was for staging purposes when she famously released her delegates during the roll call and called for Obama to be nominated by acclimation (that is, unanimously). If a release never happens, the same process occurs, just at the end of it the convention chair calls the nomination for Clinton.
yeah and can also give the nomination to whoever has the most votes even in a plurality.
Manmademan
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That's an even worse idea. You would absolutely end up with 6 or 7 people running with the "winner" potentially having 20% of the actual vote or less.
The parties would end up completely hijacked by extremists who vote in lockstep with each other while centrists spread out votes or tune out.
Yes, it's symbolic. You want it to be as close to "unanimous" as possible. You'll note Queen led the call for New York in pledging their delegates to Obama. Because she is a) a queen and then b) worked her royal butt off to get him elected.
Sanders has a high standard to live up to after the primaries are over.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-08-27-36774207_x.htm
some of her delegates still voted for her. I could see some Bernie delegates like Hillary's in this article to balk at the release.
some of her delegates still voted for her. I could see some Bernie delegates like Hillary's in this article to balk at the release.
Shit, I saw that happen in realtime. Hilarious.
He'll probably be a grump and then fade back into obscurity in Vermont after the DNC is over.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Bernie Stans are embarrassing people:
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/726499303183794176
"Why doesn't the U.S. focus on diplomacy?!?"
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"How dare Hillary shake hands with bad people?!?"
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/726499303183794176
"Why doesn't the U.S. focus on diplomacy?!?"
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"How dare Hillary shake hands with bad people?!?"
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
He would have had a real shot running for President of Vermont.
Shit, I remember we got shown that in a journalism class I took as an example of what happens when you don't do your research properly. How do you not check what's in the goddamn vault before opening it up on TV?
Macho Madness
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How dare she be a former secretary of state
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Spoiled Milk
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The script I'm using replaces trump's name with a quote from him. You can see the script in action when you quote a post from me that mentions trump by his full name.
I wonder how bad cruz will do in California on June 7th now since trump seems to be getting stronger now.
I can't believe this is real.
TheLaughingStock
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Nixon, Reagan, and Bush 1/2 did a great job at beating back liberal dominance and making a big time ideological comeback. Eager to see what the GOP will accomplish in the future.
AntraxSuicide
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Starving to death is apparently a dignified way to live (for a few weeks, since you're starving to death).
Think of how thin our kids will be now! No more childhood obesity! Let it never be said that Ryan can't solve problems creatively.
The GoP understands that child's desire for dignity and will give it to him and send him home hungry!
The real solution is basic income so the child's family has money, but I think we know how the GoP feels about that
exmachina64
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Conservatives love anecdotes, but not facts.
Is it really so hard to believe that most conservatives consider poverty statistics overblown and think that cutting government benefits will encourage people to be less lazy?
well yeah. They got to appoint a combined 9-11 Justices. Clinton was the first Democrat since Johnson to appoint a Justice to the Supreme Court.
Obama will be the first living Democrat since Jackson-Van Buren to see his successor win a third term for their party.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
They are still in denial phase of the 5 stages, lol. I guess you could say they are in the anger phase, looking at Trump. Until they see that the coalition they have abused since Regan, which was held together by (edit:thin) common causes, can't be sustained any longer.
You can't have a party big enough around racism/nationalism, and religious based causes. Especially when internal views conflict in other ways such as republican economic justice and religious economic justice.
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