RustyNails
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I wrote a paper on Harriet tubman while in undergrad and got an A in it. Is anyone interested in reading it?
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam
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You're right....damn you, coca cola.
she's like a Leslie knope that loves money
I like it
O'Malley not in consideration huh?
Oh
Spoiled Milk
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No. Soda and cigarettes are different. Cigarette consumption is highly inelastic which is why it takes so much effort to curb. Sugar is not.
Manmademan
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Soda consumption also isn't likely to change very much, especially among the poor. Note that this isn't just soda, its any sweetened beverage i.e. sweet teas, sports drinks, etc.
The alternatives are pretty much nil. You think people are going to get 40oz buckets of water to go with their popcorn at the local multiplex?
Yes. Ban comic book trash and only show foreign language films!
Manmademan
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are you drunk right now? Maybe we should be taxing zima or whatever it is you're high on this morning
If the tax is per ounce (not knowledgeable about the Philly ordinance, just saying in general), wouldn't the main effect be too bring down the average ounceage? That doesn't sound terrible.
Manmademan
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I'm high on sudsy goodness and experiencing life as a commoner!
the hell? are you in a laundromat? have some self respect, sir
probably not. prepackaged drinks are fixed in size. cans, 16oz bottles, 2L bottles, 1L bottles, sit down restaurant glasses, etc. This is where most of the revenue will be coming from.
Fast food drinks are usually rolled up in a value meal of some sort. a bigger drink usually means more fries, etc. I don't expect too many people to change the ounce sizes here- especially since soda is by far the cheapest part of that meal for the restaurant. it's nearly 100% profit.
movie theatres? same thing. drinks are mostly profit for them, and that's one of the use cases where consumers KNOW they're being bent over on pricing (drink pricing in theatres is insane compared to a grocery store) and don't really care.
Giant Panda
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You don't have a person to do that for you? I thought everyone did.
I'm high on sudsy goodness and experiencing life as a commoner!
Orbis Tabula
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I only drink Coke Zero because it's mega healthy. I'd better get taxed zero too!
You engaging in some shady deals in a laundromat? NYPD come sniffing
Manmademan
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no sugar in that, no tax.
edit: actually..that might not be true. the tax will be on distributors, not consumers. It's possible they may simply spread the cost of the tax over all drinks, and not just sugary ones. But that's just a hypothetical.
plagiarize
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I'm all for Soda Taxes. Always have been. It's about making the healthier option the more affordable choice and generating some revenue at the same time, not squeezing money out of the poor.
Macho Madness
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With 1% of precincts reporting, we are ready to make a projection and it is that when all the posts are counted in the state of Denial, Y2Kev will pick up what our election desk is calling an overwhelming victory.
Making sure that every family has high-quality, affordable preschool and child care is a vision that I strongly share, Mr. Sanders said, in a written statement. On the other hand, I do not support paying for this proposal through a regressive tax on soda that will significantly increase taxes on low-income and middle-class Americans. At a time of massive income and wealth inequality, it should be the people on top who see an increase in their taxes, not low-income and working people.
Veritigo_X
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/r/politics has always had a thing for RT. Iranian state media is new though.
Spoiled Milk
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The way you structured your post made it sound like extraneous information not included in the article.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Nate Silver is so fucking mad to the point where he doesn't even make sense:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-system-is-rigged-argument-is-working/
Hey Nate, quit caping for a person as terrible as Ted Cruz.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-system-is-rigged-argument-is-working/
Hey Nate, quit caping for a person as terrible as Ted Cruz.
Of course the media is playing along, it's true. The GOP is actively trying to rig it against him, they're constantly telling us so. Reporting on that isn't playing along, it's reporting the facts.
Orbis Tabula
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I could swear he already has been. I suppose it defends on the fuzzy rules of delegate fuckery.
Manmademan
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its possible that if he vastly overperforms in the remaining states AND all of the unbound delegates (there are about 200 of these) back cruz, he could still win-
but this is WILDLY implausible. by any reasonable definition he's done.
I was reading one of the Sanders boards and there was a post saying some Sanders supporters are getting booted from r/politics because they have been accusing every post/comment with a hint of pro-Clinton sentiment of being a shill.
This struck me as a bit of genius way to drown out those without much self control. You aren't gonna be able to tone down the rhetoric in an echo chamber but any board/thread claiming to have open discussion now has reason to boot anyone without a lick of proof making accusations towards other posters. You don't even need to have actually paid or hired anyone to do anything.
The Clinton camp doesn't pay me. I pay them.
Making sure that every family has high-quality, affordable preschool and child care is a vision that I strongly share, Mr. Sanders said, in a written statement. On the other hand, I do not support paying for this proposal through a regressive tax on soda that will significantly increase taxes on low-income and middle-class Americans. At a time of massive income and wealth inequality, it should be the people on top who see an increase in their taxes, not low-income and working people.
I thought that's how his Medicare for All is supposed to work. Increase taxes significantly on lower income people and make up the difference with premium decreases. Also, that image.
Veritigo_X
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Speaking of Nate, this tweet from him yesterday cracked me up.
Bold prediction.
Bold prediction.
balladofwindfishes
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It's really bizarre. There's a group on r/politics who, every time someone dares post something positive about Hillary, they did through your entire post history and pull out stuff they object to as proof you're a shill. One idiot went and found me saying "Hillary is basically as close to a Democrat as you can get" as proof I was a paid shill, on that asinine article a week ago about how Hillary was a moderate Republican. Like... lol
Yea, my 4 year old account that also actively posts on r/smashbros, r/tf2, r/parrots and r/dota2 is really a shill account. Oh yea, and r/ashens. Hillary clearly looks for people interested in a British man making fun of cheap toys on the internet to be their paid shills. It's a requirement, actually.
Frank the Great
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@HillaryClinton said:
That's my Hilldawg.
Also, in general, funding policy programs with Pigouvian taxes is kind of dumb for obvious reasons. If universal pre-K works and you make a bunch of smart kids then one thing they might do is recognize the health problems caused by soda and stop drinking it. Then what do you do?
However getting the pre-K is what's important. Once it's in place it'll be easier to pass some other tax to pay for it if the soda tax is insufficient.
However getting the pre-K is what's important. Once it's in place it'll be easier to pass some other tax to pay for it if the soda tax is insufficient.
The race on the Dem side is done, also on the Republican side, honestly. Cruz is near mathematically eliminated, and his appeal has peaked. Meanwhile, Trump continues to gain in the polls.
I don't see Trump NOT taking it on the first ballot, at this point. Even if he doesn't get 1,237, if he gets within 100 of that I see him winning enough unbound delegates to get over the line.
This race is boring anyway. Trump is predictably idiotic. Cruz's face keeps making increasingly smarmy shapes. The only interesting thing right now is Kasich, and really only because I think he's about one or two more bad interviews away from actually hitting someone.
Who does Trump pick as a VP?
I don't see Trump NOT taking it on the first ballot, at this point. Even if he doesn't get 1,237, if he gets within 100 of that I see him winning enough unbound delegates to get over the line.
This race is boring anyway. Trump is predictably idiotic. Cruz's face keeps making increasingly smarmy shapes. The only interesting thing right now is Kasich, and really only because I think he's about one or two more bad interviews away from actually hitting someone.
Who does Trump pick as a VP?
RustyNails
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No pne wants to readmy paper on tubman?
Once it's enshrined and people are used to it being there, if something pops up to make people stop drinking enough soda they'll be forced to find another revenue stream. Right now getting their foot in the door is the biggest issue.
Did you say pierogi?
Orbis Tabula
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So...wait, what? He's predicting that...someone will win? Or no one? It's a toss up between someone and no one.
Kasich is the frontrunner for VP. Christie is possible.
"Indiana is becoming a must-win for #NeverTrump" = Kasich/Cruz have to do well in the Indiana primary to stop Trump.
"and #NeverTrump ain't winning it, although suspect it's more a toss-up than lean Trump." = Trump currently leads in the polls, and Silver thinks there's a Trump bias in the polling, but he also thinks that this bias is not large enough to make a Trump loss more likely than not.
RustyNails
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No and no. Trump's entire game is "these politicians". He's no way in fuck nominating a beltway insider like Kasich. One who's associated with toxifying the party in the first place (W.). Christie is just a fatter Trump but in office. He brings nothing new and daresay might start stealing Trump's thunder schtick. He will nominate a nutso Military general.
Wow, Soda taxes? I haven't heard about those since Bloomberg tried to push it through in New York a while back. Like I can see both sides of the issue. I probably lean on yes to said tax (ideally a Brita Filter on your tap should be able to provide you with all the drinking water you need if not just the tap itself) but I admit I might be privileged in this respect because I've mostly cut Soda out of my diet already of my own volition. So its easy to argue for a tax if you know it won't affect you.
He's saying #NeverTrump has to win Indiana but they are very likely to lose. That being said, he thinks it will be a narrow victory for Trump and he still has a chance to lose as opposed to being a given for Trump.
He's saying #NeverTrump has to win Indiana but they are very likely to lose. That being said, he thinks it will be a narrow victory for Trump and he still has a chance to lose as opposed to being a given for Trump.
He's gotta pick an insider to "join the houses" of the Trump and establishment factions. His best bet is a Senator to help him "make deals."
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Trump pivoting to general!
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