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Mael

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Holy fuck, he's a fluoride truther.

vaccinations_ben_garrison.jpg


Also, this is the worst political comic I've ever seen.

That watch tower in the distance on the right doesn't have a label!
How am I supposed to know what it is supposed to be!
 
Hillary is thick yo.

Also, can a political cartoonist not label every damn thing in sight for once? Aside from Bernie looking way thinner and fit than he does in real life (and standing up straighter than real life), there are no labels on him.
Over-labeling is a huge pet peeve for me. Of 5 things tagged in that imagine, 4 are unnecessary. Just the "Wall St" sign would set the rest up just fine. Anyone who isn't going to understand beyond that isn't suddenly going to start caring about political cartoons because this person added a few more words. I didn't used to be like this! A solid political cartoon should have 0-1 tags.

Hillary "Fatass" Clinton™ and Bernie "The Skinny" Sanders™ are needless personal sniping on top.
Also, this is the worst political comic I've ever seen.
Does it even qualify as a political cartoon? It's just a ton of scary words thrown up into the same panel. I guess the weights on his ankles? But the rest are randomly-tagged icky nouns meant to scare paranoid people.
What isn't it making fun of? I lost count.
Making fun of? I figure it exists solely to terrify us, or tease people based in reality for the crime of living in reality.
That watch tower in the distance on the right doesn't have a label!
How am I supposed to know what it is supposed to be!
Ear of corn as well! What if the reader had never seen corn before?!?
 

hawk2025

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Daniel B·;204570490 said:
How can you tell how concerned Hillary supporters (currently, 99% of PoliGAF posters) are about Bernie's infectious popularity, as the Golden State's primary surfs into view?

Cenk introducing Bernie at a CA rally, plus, crowd gathers outside restaurant to #FeelTheBern:



Easy! It's in inverse proportion to the volume and weight of anti-Bernie posts on PoliGAF ;).

Well, I feel us few true-Bernie supporters (no, not the ones who claim they once supported Bernie, but then say he's run a terrible campaign, despite the yuge obstacles he's overcome and only being behind 4% in pledged delegates, and then reel off Hillary's policy positions), need an antidote for all this negativity:

How about Dick Van Dyke introducing Bernie in Santa Monica, CA :):




Aahhhh yes, nothing like the "independent media" literally shilling for a political candidate!
 

itschris

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Why Bernie’s Crushing Trump

If Sanders were somehow able to beat Clinton, he’d be the least vetted, most vulnerable major-party nominee in American history.


And while Republicans have occasionally jibed at him, like Lindsey Graham’s actually quite funny remark that Sanders “went to the Soviet Union on his honeymoon and I don’t think he ever came back,” in far more serious ways, Republican groups have worked to help Sanders weaken Clinton.

That would change on a dime if he became the nominee. I don’t think they’d even have to go into his radical past, although they surely would. Michelle Goldberg of Slate has written good pieces on this. He took some very hard-left and plainly anti-American positions. True, they might not matter to anyone under 45, but more than half of all voters are over 45. And then, big-P politics aside, there’s all that farkakte nonsense he wrote in The Vermont Freeman in the early ’70s about how we should let children touch each others’ genitals and such. Fine, it was 40-plus years ago but it’s out there, and it’s out there.

But if I were a conservative making anti-Sanders ads, I’d stick to taxes. An analysis earlier this year from the Tax Policy Center found that his proposals would raise taxes in the so-called middle quintile (40-60 percent) by $4,700 a year. A median household is around $53,000. Most such households pay an effective tax rate of around 11 percent, or $5,800. From $5,800 to $10,500 constitutes a 45 percent increase.

Sanders will respond that your average family will save that much in deductibles and co-payments, since there would be no more private health insurance. And in a way, he’d have a point—the average out-of-pocket expenses for a family health insurance plan in 2015 were around $4,900. But that is an average that combines families with one really sick person needing lots of care with families where they all just go see the doctor once a year, who spend far less. They’d lose out under socialized health, which Republicans would be sure to make clear.

But all the above suggests a rational discourse, and we know there’ll be no such thing during a campaign. It’ll just be: largest tax increase in American history (which will be true), and take away your doctor (which also might be true in a lot of cases). There’s a first time for everything I guess, but I don’t think anyone has ever won a presidential election proposing a 45 percent tax increase on people of modest incomes. And the increases would be a lot higher on the upper-middle-class households that tend to decide U.S. elections.
 
Over-labeling is a huge pet peeve for me. Of 5 things tagged in that imagine, 4 are unnecessary. Just the "Wall St" sign would set the rest up just fine. Anyone who isn't going to understand beyond that isn't suddenly going to start caring about political cartoons because this person added a few more words. I didn't used to be like this! A solid political cartoon should have 0-1 tags.

To be fair, many political cartoons had a lot of labels even in their "golden age."
Still, the standards of illustration and creative imagery were higher as well.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Uh, he's behind by a lot more than 4% of the delegates. I believe it's like 9-10% which is insurmountable.

Bernie math is like seth abramson writing.
Damn, I was coming to say this. Yes, Hillary has an ~8.3% lead.

Daniel, right?

Can I call you Dan?

Listen, Dan.
It's over. Unless Hillary gets on TV right now and takes a shit live on TV, she is going to clench the nomination. Fact. It won't even matter if Bernie had a huge upset and won California (which he won't). He may have won many smaller states but he lost big in bigger states. He gave it a good fighting shot, but hell, even when I met his wife, after he lost New York, I'm pretty sure she knew that all the math was against her.

It's all ogre now.
I object.
 
To be fair, many political cartoons had a lot of labels even in their "golden age."

Still, the standards of illustration and creative imagery were higher as well.
I personally love the political cartoons from Lincoln's era. They were creepy, Lovecraftian in nature and very well done

mcclellans-crafty-policy.jpg
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Good thing he wrote "slam dunk" in massive font, otherwise I might have been confused.
 
Indiana needed a label? Nice. And I resent the thought of Cruz bouncing back "more". He never bounced in the first place, to say nothing of staging a comeback at some point. Out of fairness, I'll give a +1 for the cheetos bag
 
How does Hillary have no accomplishments if she killed Vince Foster and Benghazi and did Cattle Futures and Whitewater and got away with it? What a confusing cartoon.
 

Crayons

Banned
Sometimes I'm glad that I'm not a politician because I'll never be surfing the internet and see cartoons of me as an angry groundhog.

I guess that's one benefit of living an uneventful life
 
Nice...Jeff Weaver just called Senator Barbara Boxer a liar basically on CNN.

EDIT: Bernie needs to can this guy after this is all over. Just horrible at his job.
 

Crayons

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He's a racist and a sexist, but like, casually. The edits make him look like he wants to start the fourth reich

Edit: A transphobe too aparently
 
I think the more likely reason for Sanders voters in WV wanting to vote Trump in the general is because they don't actually intend to vote Trump but want to scare the bejeesus out of the Clinton campaign - i.e., same reason that national polling right now is so close between Clinton and Trump right now. It'd be interesting to see some data on this, but my guess is that if you go back and poll WV primary voters after the convention has finished, you'll see that Trump figure has subsided hugely, down to the same approximately 10% level of Clinton supporters who said they'd vote Trump if Sanders won.

It kind of feels like you're projecting your preferred strategy onto these voters. Voters do act strategically in several ways, but I don't think large numbers do in the way you're imagining and the data certainly doesn't support this. After all, 39% of Sanders primary voters say they'd vote for Trump over Sanders! If this were part of a strategy to scare Clinton, you'd expect to see similar Trump-Clinton numbers in other states. And certainly it's kind of pointless to try and scare Clinton in a state she isn't going to contest in November (Romney won it with a margin of over 26 points).

Any result from West Virginia needs to be understood in context. West Virginia was once a heavily Democratic state but started rapidly trending Republican starting around the 1990s. The result is a state with a bunch of people who are registered Democrats but vote Republican. Since West Virginia is a closed primary their only choices are to vote in the Democratic primary or not at all. These are Republicans in everything but name.
 
Peter thiel is finding the gawker suit. He's a trump supporter. This is how the first amendment dies.

Gonna make an OT thread. But I imagine many are gonna shit it up with "gawker is trash" disregarding trumps already made threat against the press
 

User1608

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For those who (allegedly) aren't bigoted yet support Trump...these are the people they associate with. Those political cartoons are so awful lol. I can't even get mad. The most offensive one is definitely for Michelle though. Whatever, she's done more for the country than any of these racists ever will.
 
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