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User1608

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I do know somebody who knows/met John Kerry via acquaintanceship. Pretty neat when I saw the pic lol. "Oh! Cool!" I'd love to meet Kerry.
 
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Iolo

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I leave you guys alone for 5 seconds and you practically put on an international anus clinic.

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TheLostBigBoss

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bodyofanamerican said:
There is no way this isn't a Bernie love fest. Bernie wouldn't be appearing there in the "heat" of the CA primary (*cough*) if it wasn't going to be a very positive environment for him.
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I think Bill has been on Bernie's ass for a while now irrc, last time I watched months ago he was shitting on Sander's supporters.

But I can't stand Bill so I almost never watch the show, I could be way off
 
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johnsmith

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Maher has always been pro Bernie and has never once attacked him. But he also doesn't attack Hillary. He just says he prefers Bernie but will settle for Hillary.
 
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Daniel B·

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itschris said:
Why Bernie’s Crushing Trump

If Sanders were somehow able to beat Clinton, he’d be the least vetted, most vulnerable major-party nominee in American history.
But if I were a conservative making anti-Sanders ads, I’d stick to taxes. An analysis earlier this year from the Tax Policy Center found that his proposals would raise taxes in the so-called middle quintile (40-60 percent) by $4,700 a year. A median household is around $53,000. Most such households pay an effective tax rate of around 11 percent, or $5,800. From $5,800 to $10,500 constitutes a 45 percent increase.

Sanders will respond that your average family will save that much in deductibles and co-payments, since there would be no more private health insurance. And in a way, he’d have a point—the average out-of-pocket expenses for a family health insurance plan in 2015 were around $4,900. But that is an average that combines families with one really sick person needing lots of care with families where they all just go see the doctor once a year, who spend far less. They’d lose out under socialized health, which Republicans would be sure to make clear.
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Talking of a "math related brain fart", those numbers don't appear to have any grounding in reality.

A family of four would receive standard deductions of 28.8K, so if they collectively earn 53K, they would just pay an additional healthcare tax of 0.53K / year (i.e. (53000 - 28800) * 0.022)), or just $44.36 / month, without any other healthcare costs (save prescriptions, where a Bernie administration would negotiate hard to reduce).

Also, MICHAEL TOMASKY from The Daily Beast appears to be omitting the actual insurance premiums from that 4.9K figure, as I hardly think any family of four in the U. S. of A. pays just $408 per month in total healthcare costs.
 
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I mean, do we care about Bernie's tax plan anymore? It's about as important in this election as my plan for making it illegal for your thighs to double in size when you sit down.
 
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Iolo

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Devine hasn't said much of late. Sure he's expensive, but one wonders if Bernie has shut him out during the home stretch.

Anyway, I found this in a WSJ article about Trump stinking up his GE chances in Ohio, from a few days ago:

About half of the activists interviewed at the Stark County Democratic headquarters said they backed Mr. Sanders during Ohio’s primary, but each said they believe they must work to elect Mrs. Clinton.

“The difference between any Democrat and Trump is so spectacular that I had to come help,” said Tony Collins-Sibley, a 54-year-old cabinet maker from Alliance who wore a blue “Bernie 2016” T-shirt as he phoned potential Clinton volunteers. “Hillary is a boilerplate Democrat with all the traditional views.…I’ll work for her.”
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adam387 said:
I mean, do we care about Bernie's tax plan anymore? It's about as important in this election as my plan for making it illegal for your thighs to double in size when you sit down.
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Makes my legs look good tho

Feel like I can leg press a car, they look strong
 
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Daniel B·

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adam387 said:
I mean, do we care about Bernie's tax plan anymore? It's about as important in this election as my plan for making it illegal for your thighs to double in size when you sit down.
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I like to keep things jovial, but it really saddens me that you seem to have no issue with Hillary surrogates blatantly lying to try and secure her nomination, and you wonder why Hillary may struggle against someone as potentially disasterous as Trump.
 
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I guess Sanders is dropping a cold million and change in my state for ads? I've literally seen 0 ads so I'm guessing it's more along the north into the bay. Honestly I've heard of almost no action for Sanders in CA south of Monterey aside from a single rally in Carson or something?

Feels like he sort of just ignored most of socal and the central valley. All of his stuff sounds like it's squarely in the bay and nowhere else.
 
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johnsmith

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studyguy said:
I guess Sanders is dropping a cold million and change in my state for ads? I've literally seen 0 ads so I'm guessing it's more along the north into the bay. Honestly I've heard of almost no action for Sanders in CA south of Monterey aside from a single rally in Carson or something?

Feels like he sort of just ignored most of socal and the central valley. All of his stuff sounds like it's squarely in the bay and nowhere else.
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I'm sensing a pattern here.
 
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quantico

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studyguy said:
I guess Sanders is dropping a cold million and change in my state for ads? I've literally seen 0 ads so I'm guessing it's more along the north into the bay. Honestly I've heard of almost no action for Sanders in CA south of Monterey aside from a single rally in Carson or something?

Feels like he sort of just ignored most of socal and the central valley. All of his stuff sounds like it's squarely in the bay and nowhere else.
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A couple million in ads across the state of CA doesn't go very far.
 
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johnsmith said:
Why is he even there? The primaries are over and it's solid blue.
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Trump's stragety is to turn blue states red which is a dumb strategy especially for a state like New Mexico.
Edit: I just recognized that you were talking about New Mexico. I don't think trump will do well there either.
 
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TheLostBigBoss

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studyguy said:
I guess Sanders is dropping a cold million and change in my state for ads? I've literally seen 0 ads so I'm guessing it's more along the north into the bay. Honestly I've heard of almost no action for Sanders in CA south of Monterey aside from a single rally in Carson or something?

Feels like he sort of just ignored most of socal and the central valley. All of his stuff sounds like it's squarely in the bay and nowhere else.
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He's talked up California so much that it would be amazingly embarrassing if he actually loses it.

Campaign is out of money at this point, probably the last of his pocket to try and make sure he actually, you know, tries to win the state to some degree to have some type of talking point.
 
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