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[teruterubozu]

Who's doing it anywhere close to as well as she is though?

I mean, she's doing fine right now, getting under Trump's skin. Why does she have to be VP to continue it?

 

[BanGy.nz]

The potential VP candidate list keeps shrinking to the point where Warren is starting to look like a legitimate possibility.

 

[ampere]

No Veep from a state with a Republican governor, thus no Warren for Veep

#perezforveep

Turns out it was apparently just the non binding Presidential Primary today. Downticket is another day cause reasons

Wat

That's so bizarre. I don't get it at all

 

[PBY]

Paul Ryan is a grade A cuck.

How are you gonna endorse him now, after he's just gone even further down this path of offending everyone and throwing out old trash at hillary.

 

[Ether_Snake]

No way will Hillary win with Warren. That's a guaranteed Trump presidency.

 

[dramatis]

As Donald Trump Pushes Conspiracy Theories, Right-Wing Media Gets Its Wish [NY Times]

WASHINGTON — Ever since talk radio, cable news and the Internet emerged in the 1990s as potent political forces on the right, Republicans have used those media to attack their opponents through a now-familiar two-step.

Political operatives would secretly place damaging information with friendly outlets like The Drudge Report and Fox News and with radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh — and then they would work to get the same information absorbed into the mainstream media.

“They’ve reverse-engineered the way it has always worked because they now have a candidate willing to say it himself,” said Danny Diaz, who was a top aide in Jeb Bush’s presidential campaign, speaking with a measure of wonder about the spectacle of the party’s presumptive nominee discussing Mr. Clinton’s sexual escapades.

With Mr. Trump as the Republican standard-bearer, the line separating the conservative mischief makers and the party’s more buttoned-up cadre of elected officials and aides has been obliterated. Fusing what had been two separate but symbiotic forces, Mr. Trump has begun a real-life political science experiment: What happens when a major party’s nominee is more provocateur than politician?

 

[kadotsu]

If he wasn't from NY I could see Cory Booker. Tim Kaine will probably be the VP.

 

[Officerrob]

No way will Hillary win with Warren. That's a guaranteed Trump presidency.

Explain this line of thinking

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

Paul Ryan is a grade A cuck.

How are you gonna endorse him now, after he's just gone even further down this path of offending everyone and throwing out old trash at hillary.

He saw those Trump cartoons and realized he'd been seeing Trump's hair with an incorrect perspective all this time.

But, honestly, the RNC must be REALLY flexing some muscle behind-the-scenes to coalesce everybody behind Trump so quickly and seamlessly. I thought Ryan would hold out, given his own presidential ambitions, but maybe he's concluded 4-8 years is a long time for people to forget this OR that Speaker is a terrible job to have if you want to have a presidential future.

 

[dramatis]

If he wasn't from NY I could see Cory Booker. Tim Kaine will probably be the VP.

Booker is NJ.

The chief problem with Booker and Warren is that they come from states with Republican governors, so their senate seats would be taken by Republicans.

 

[hammysaurusrex]

Wow, Hillary won the non-binding Washington primary? I really did not expect that. I thought Sanders would still win, just with very small margins.

 

[HylianTom]

The main questions I have around a Warren Vice Presidential candidacy:
- does she expand/reinforce the gender gap across the map in a wide geographical manner, across multiple key states?
- does she help to address concerns held on the Left about the ticket?
- does she help assauge persuadable voters' who hold concerns around Hillary's trustworthiness issue, especially concerning special interests?
- do Massachusetts Dems have a viable candidate who can win a special election in the middle of 2017?

With Kaine, I want to know:
- can he move the needle in Virginia?
- since he speaks Spanish, would he be an effective campaign messenger to Spanish-speaking voters, and would he move the needle there in any significant way?
- is he an effective attack dog capable of getting under Trump's skin?
- is McAuliffe able to appoint a suitable successor who can retain that seat?

I think either would be capable of doing the job of President, so that consideration isn't a big worry. I'm not worried about ability to perform in a debate; either would do well there as well.

For these questions, I don't know the answers, but I'd bet that the campaign is considering these factors closely.

 

[RustyNails]

Trump has once again found himself unable to let it go..

@realDonaldTrump


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And ABC News is breaking that Paul Ryan is going to endore Trump. Surprise! (not)

Death of the party is happening.

I'm glad Bernie is still in the race. It's skewing the general election polls in favor of Trump, fooling GOP to believe they got a shot at this. Pls more endorsements!

 

[ampere]

No way will Hillary win with Warren. That's a guaranteed Trump presidency.

Uh, it's demographically extremely hard for the Dems to lose this presidential election at all. Play with this 538 tool a bit to see how extreme the electoral college favoring Dems is. We could lose the popular vote (lol) by over 2% and still win

Warren is a lost Senate seat, that's the problem

 

[Emarv]

I love Warren to death, but watching those clips I can already see all of the sexist comments and parodies that would come along with her as VP. It would be super gross.

Not that we should bow to the worst of America's impulses, but I admit it does scare me what America would do to a Clinton/Warren ticket.

 

[gutter_trash]

Explain this line of thinking

Hillary needs to diversify the ticket with a younger up-and-comer who could be the face of the next generation.

Dems' main weakness is their talent pool is running thin in the next-gen department.
They need a WWE NXT departamental division and come up with youthful energetic Democrats.

Republicans were trying out Marco Rubio but Donald Trump torpedoed him out of the water, LOL

 

[dramatis]

I strangely enough just read a piece on gun control in Vogue, of all the places.

 

[Plinko]

Trump has once again found himself unable to let it go..

@realDonaldTrump


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And ABC News is breaking that Paul Ryan is going to endore Trump. Surprise! (not)

Takes me back to the good old days a few months ago when so many on this board said that these guys would never unite behind Trump.

 

[BotoxAgent]

Takes me back to the good old days a few months ago when so many on this board said that these guys would never unite behind Trump.

And now we are panicking about Bernie supporters not getting behind Hillary.

But most of them will.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

Hillary needs to diversify the ticket with a younger up-and-comer who could be the face of the next generation.

Dems' main weakness is their talent pool is running thin in the next-gen department.
They need a WWE NXT departamental division and come up with youthful energetic Democrats.

Republicans were trying out Marco Rubio but Donald Trump torpedoed him out of the water, LOL

To be fair Christie torpedoed him, Trump dive bombed him.

 

[superdeluxe]

Remember when Sanders won the caucus in Washington, and there was a massive campaign to get super delegates in the state to support him, specifically targeting them and trying to shame them etc?

Well looks like they just lost that line of attack eh?

Even though The primary didn't really matter, this very reason is why it matters, sanders supporters in Washington can no longer claim 'will of the people'

 

[HylianTom]

Takes me back to the good old days a few months ago when so many on this board said that these guys would never unite behind Trump.

I think the moment that has surprised me most on this was when the Graham news came out.

Just.. wow.

 

[j_k_redtail]

Paul Ryan finally going to endorse Trump apparently.

I guess Trump accusing Hillary of killing Vince Foster proved to Ryan that he's a true Republican.

Called it. Though I'd thought this would happen after the summer.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

Takes me back to the good old days a few months ago when so many on this board said that these guys would never unite behind Trump.

Summer soldiers. Once the GE spools up and Trump is losing handily, I think we'll see plenty of deserters.

 

[Nazgul_Hunter]

Classy

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 24m24 minutes ago

The protesters in New Mexico were thugs who were flying the Mexican flag. The rally inside was big and beautiful, but outside, criminals!

1,517 retweets 3,813 likes

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Summer soldiers. Once the GE spools up and Trump is losing handily, I think we'll see plenty of deserters.

They're getting fooled by his minor little bump he's gotten the last few weeks. Let them tie themselves to him. When the polls shift, they won't be able to untie themselves from him

 

[Frank the Great]

They're getting fooled by his minor little bump he's gotten the last few weeks. Let them tie themselves to him. When the polls shift, they won't be able to untie themselves from him

So true. Democrats continue to benefit from Republican's misunderstanding of polls.

 

[jack_package_200]

*Headdesk*

Can it be June 7th already plz?

 

[ampere]

I think the moment that has surprised me most on this was when the Graham news came out.

Just.. wow.

I've been surprised to see the "party unity" that's happened thus far. Makes me think we may have overestimated the downticket damage that Trump will cause, but this is all just me speculating.

Though the Georgia polling being close does mean good things, really hope we can flip blue.

 

[Bowdz]

*Headdesk*

Can it be June 7th already plz?

I don't want to be the Federation, weak and socialist. I want to be the System's Alliance from Mass Effect, militaristic and able to scare the shit out of the rest of the galaxy. I want us to become Space Murcia.

 

[BSsBrolly]

Breaking: state Department says Hilary violated email rules

Spoiler

(by not turning them over before she left)

.

 

[HylianTom]

Breaking: state Department says Hilary violated email rules

Spoiler

(by not turning them over before she left)

.

H.A. Goodman is typing his next piece of work as we speak..

 

[sphagnum]

Paul Ryan is a grade A cuck.

I hate this word but I can't deny that it does a great job of describing the GOP right now.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

So how worried should we be about this email thing?

 

[studyguy]

I guess Obama's approval ratings continue to climb, this must be the true power of the chaos emeralds. Gonna be wild once they unleash him on the trail along with the rest of the DNC against whatever the Republicans cobbled together.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

So how worried should we be about this email thing?

Considering what the State Department just said was basically a finger wag and also said the past two SoS's are just as guilty should tell you this won't amount to anything.

I think the FBI will write a strongly worded scolding letter to her, also mentioning past secretaries, and that'll be the end of it. I can't imagine the FBI's investigation would be much different than the State Department.

 

[AntraxSuicide]

Considering what the State Department just said was basically a finger wag and also said the past two SoS's are just as guilty should tell you this won't amount to anything.

I think the FBI will write a strongly worded scolding letter to her, also mentioning past secretaries, and that'll be the end of it. I can't imagine the FBI's investigation would be much different than the State Department.

There's functionally no way for an indictment to come through that would hold up if it didn't also lead to indictments or massive investigations of past secretaries, and that's not happening.

I agree with your prediction for the FBI.

 

[User1608]

Classy

What an orange.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

*Headdesk*

Can it be June 7th already plz?

I guess we're skipping the whole WWIII and giant global collapse and going straight to The Federation or something

 

[Spoiled Milk]

Classy

I was watching the protests live and it got pretty ugly. Violent, angry protesting is not classy.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

There's functionally no way for an indictment to come through that would hold up if it didn't also lead to indictments or massive investigations of past secretaries, and that's not happening.

I agree with your prediction for the FBI.

I'm wondering what's going to happen if/when they don't indict her. There will be conspiracy theories for decades about it. I'm pretty sure a good number of people will completely snap, they've gotten themselves so tied to this being the ticket to getting Bernie to be president, they have no concept that maybe the FBI just won't do anything other than a bit of scolding.

The FBI also told the State Department to hold off until their were done, so I guess the FBI is likely going to put out a report soon.

 

[pigeon]

*Headdesk*

Can it be June 7th already plz?

Makes sense. Bernie Sanders is Khan Noonien Singh.

Spoiler

Since they already whitewashed the role, why the hell not

 

[Retromelon]

Hillary needs to diversify the ticket with a younger up-and-comer who could be the face of the next generation.

Dems' main weakness is their talent pool is running thin in the next-gen department.
They need a WWE NXT departamental division and come up with youthful energetic Democrats.

Republicans were trying out Marco Rubio but Donald Trump torpedoed him out of the water, LOL

What I took from this is that Hillary is Roman Reigns

 

[gutter_trash]

What I took from this is that Hillary is Roman Reigns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROnDOA_R0DE

 

[whyamihere]

Considering what the State Department just said was basically a finger wag and also said the past two SoS's are just as guilty should tell you this won't amount to anything.

I think the FBI will write a strongly worded scolding letter to her, also mentioning past secretaries, and that'll be the end of it. I can't imagine the FBI's investigation would be much different than the State Department.

Given the tone of the letter and the fact that other past SoS are now involved as well (though not to the extent that Clinton is), I'm guessing this will be what happens.

 

[SheSaidNo]

Was reading an interesting paper on the thwarted voters in the democratic primary between obama and hillary and how it effected general election voting. Full study is here http://sites.duke.edu/hillygus/files/2014/06/hendersonhillygustompsonPOQ.pdf

Descriptive analysis of the intensity of candidate support (not presented in the tables) lends additional weight to this conclusion. If “sour grapes” were the primary explanation for defections to McCain, we might expect that Clinton supporters who supported her the most intensely would be most reluctant to vote for Obama. Using two different measures of intensity—self-reported certainty of support and observed stability in support—finds that those who supported Clinton the most intensely were actually more likely to rally behind Obama. We find that 82 percent of “certain” Clinton voters cast a ballot for Obama, compared to 78 percent of Clinton voters who said they might change their mind. Likewise, those respondents who consistently supported Clinton throughout the primary waves of the study were more likely to vote for Obama in the general election than were those respondents who only sometimes supported Clinton in these waves (81 percent versus 75 percent).

We next turn to see if racial attitudes correlated with defection to McCain among these thwarted Democratic primary voters. Not surprisingly, we find that those with much lower favorability toward Blacks relative to their favorability toward Whites were less likely to have rallied behind Obama in the general election. Those more favorable toward Whites than Blacks were predicted to be 26 percentage points more likely to vote for McCain than those more favorable toward Blacks—a quite sizeable effect However, the simulated impact on the election outcome suggests a far more modest influence of racial attitudes. If we simulate the election results among this sample changing nothing but racial attitudes such that all voters viewed Blacks and Whites equally favorably—we predict an increase in Obama’s vote share by 5.4 percentage points among thwarted Democratic primary voters, amounting to a one-percentage-point increase in his overall margin of victory. Of course, there may well be preferable measures of racial attitudes, especially ones less susceptible to social desirability bias. But based on this particular measure of racial attitudes, it appears that racial attitudes may have played a smaller role in the election outcomes than sometimes speculated

Compared to the relatively small effects of frustration and negative racial attitudes, we find quite large effects for ideology and Iraq War attitudes These issue relationships are the strongest among the covariates examined here—in terms of predicting both individual and aggregate outcomes. Moderate and liberal ideological views are associated with 24- and 33-percentagepoint declines in the probability of a McCain vote in the general election among this subset of Democratic primary voters. And those most strongly supportive of the War in Iraq are 69 percentage points more likely to vote for McCain in November than those least supportive of the war effort. In terms of the simulated election impact, if every non-Obama Democratic primary voter held liberal ideological views, Obama’s predicted share of their general election vote would have been 11.6 percentage points higher, which translates to a 2.1-percentage-point increase in Obama’s share of the two-party vote among the total electorate. Similarly, if the entire sample of non-Obama Democratic primary voters strongly opposed the War in Iraq, the nominee’s predicted share among this sample would have been 15.9 percentage points higher, or a 2.7-percentage-point increase in the general election outcome..

Heres a table of what caused the most change to mcain vote:

Seems like the most ardent Clinton supporters came around to vote for Obama more than Clinton supporters who were less sure in their pick. Don't know if it will be the same this election with Bernie supporters, but it hopefully will since trump is much worse than McCain ever was

 

[Sirpopopop]

Given the tone of the letter and the fact that other past SoS are now involved as well (though not to the extent that Clinton is), I'm guessing this will be what happens.

I'm thinking it will be a big deal in the immediate future.

It's certainly taken Trump out of the news cycle.

 

[Loudninja]

Nvm/

 

[Spoiled Milk]

Indictment incoming.

 

[Clefargle]

Indictment incoming.

Time to grease up my Reddit account