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studyguy

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Wasn't aware Trump took shots at Susana Martinez. I believe she had been calling him out, but all the same taking shots at her for snubbing his rally seems awfully petty. More and more it just looks like the Republican idea of unity is that of a nanny cleaning up after the temper tantrums of a petulant child. Ryan is endorsing today right? Fun times ahead for the Republicans.
 

Bowdz

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Barbara Boxer was just on CNN holding up the conclusion of the report showing that Hilldawg wasn't even mentioned in the conclusion. It was certainly critical of Clinton in the body, but the overarching finding was that the department had nebulous policies that made it easy for circumvention of the system to occur. Hillary will get hit hard over this for the next 24 hours or so and the issue will get dredged back up when the DoJ report comes out, but beyond that, I think most of the damage is fully baked into the cake at this point.

Add me to the "this was a giant finger wag with no legal consequences" train.
 

Kusagari

Member
I'm seriously getting to the point where I think she should just pick Bernie.

Almost all the VP choices thrown around suck anyway.
 

Armaros

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I'm seriously getting to the point where I think she should just pick Bernie.

Almost all the VP choices thrown around suck anyway.

And Bernie is the worst of them all, they will get the bring out his skeletons anyway and get to use them to hit Hillary.
 

pigeon

Banned
There is zero chance of either of these happening.

I think it is more likely than that!

It's probably worth remembering that DWS became the head of the DNC in exactly this deal -- it was part of the price of Clinton conceding to Obama. So it's not like there isn't precedent, and again, it's clear exactly how important everybody views the DNC head to be (important enough to be a concession, but not so important that it can't be a concession).

Fuck.�� Tulsi. �� Gabbard. �� You.�� Islamaphobic.�� Homophobe. ��

She has actually reversed her stance on all of her problematic positions.

Sure, maybe she did it for political reasons, but you know who else took homophobic and Islamophobic stances for political reasons and then reversed them later when it was expedient to do so? Because I bet you do!

No way in hell the Hillary people would allow it to be Tulsi. Switching this close to the election is pointless and symbolic. But they will not let a hand-picked Bernie partisan lead the convention.

Why not? Who cares? Hillary will control the convention anyway. Tulsi Gabbard was vice-chair of the DNC. It's not like the party doesn't trust her just because you guys don't trust her!

As to the "we don't negotiate with terrorists Berners" stuff, I think that's mostly pretty dumb overreaction. Obviously Hillary will give Bernie whatever she can give him that doesn't really matter. Then Bernie can go back and say he got a bunch of stuff and now he trusts Hillary, and everybody's happy. This is not a new idea, it's how we resolved the last like five crises in Congress. This is just sausage making. Hillary's supposed to be good at it.

Trying to crush Bernie and give him NOTHING to prove our power over him is just self-absorption. Always let your opponent lose gracefully, because you have to work with him again in the future.
 
Tulsi is islamaphobic and her history on LGBT issues is meh at best. Concessions to Bernie are fine. Letting him handpick the DNC chair is not. I'm fine with getting rid of DWS, although I think it should be after the election for optics alone. If we have to get rid of her before, that's fine but we can do a hell of a lot better than Tulsi.
 
You don't really believe that, Jack. Just wait till Vice President John Miller starts sending Mexicans to Gitmo and you'll be begging for documents.
 
Political Polls ‏@PpollingNumbers 50m50 minutes ago
North Carolina General Elections:

Trump 47% (+4)
Clinton 43

A 4% shift towards Trump in a month

@ppppolls

FYI: Romney won NC in 12 by 2%

Political Polls ‏@PpollingNumbers 44m44 minutes ago
Political Polls Retweeted Political Polls
North Carolina 4-way-race:

Trump 43 +2
Clinton 41
Johnson 3
Stein 2

A 4% shift towards Trump in a month

@ppppolls

Make them sweat for it.
 

pigeon

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Tulsi is islamaphobic and her history on LGBT issues is meh at best. Concessions to Bernie are fine. Letting him handpick the DNC chair is not. I'm fine with getting rid of DWS, although I think it should be after the election for optics alone. If we have to get rid of her before, that's fine but we can do a hell of a lot better than Tulsi.

Adam I <3 you but you're just reiterating all the stuff I just responded to.

Tulsi recanted all those crazy views she had! She cut an ad for Bernie specifically saying that she supports him because he's dovish.

Letting the losing candidate handpick the DNC chair is literally exactly what the loser got in the last Presidential primary.

I am not trying to say I love Tulsi, although you know she's a kama'aina, but I think that it's a pretty neat solution that resolves everyone's problems and probably doesn't change anything. What, exactly, are you thinking the DNC chair does that you don't trust Tulsi Gabbard to do? Why didn't anybody raise these concerns like four months ago when she was pretty obviously next in line to be the DNC chair but hadn't endorsed Bernie Sanders?

Why? Essential tool for mitigating corruption.

Remington literally makes the same post about FOIA, and I mean word for word the same post, every time anything happens about Hillary's emails. I already tried talking to him about how, like, having visibility into government actions is a good thing and I can't recommend the effort, unless you really enjoy reading the phrase "it's nothing but trash."
 

sphagnum

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Sure, maybe she did it for political reasons, but you know who else took homophobic and Islamophobic stances for political reasons and then reversed them later when it was expedient to do so? Because I bet you do!

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Some solid reasoning in this post.
 
I would rather Sanders himself be chair than Gabbard. At least his flip-flops aren't nearly as awkward, and he can just shout his stump speech (which does turn out the rallies).
 

HylianTom

Banned
fine by me, steal the thunder from Trump.
She'd be the sane one of the three.

She already practiced her "can you believe this shit?" facial expressions during the October Benghazi hearing. The gifs and pics were everywhere. Her numbers actually ticked up.

With or without Johnson present, I'll bet her debate coaches are going to instruct her to have her reaction faces ready for September & October's debates. Not going overboard, but juuuuust enough for it to be a Thing on the Twitters again.
 
She'd be the sane one of the three.

She already practiced her "can you believe this shit?" facial expressions during the October Benghazi hearing. The gifs and pics were everywhere. Her numbers actually ticked up.

With or without Johnson present, I'll bet her debate coaches are going to instruct her to have her reaction faces ready for September & October's debates. Not going overboard, but juuuuust enough for it to be a Thing on the Twitters again.

It's hilarious how well that worked for her. A taxpayer-funded, 11 hour ad for why Hillary has the poise and stamina to be President. Trump wouldn't last 30 minutes.
 
Adam I <3 you but you're just reiterating all the stuff I just responded to.

Tulsi recanted all those crazy views she had! She cut an ad for Bernie specifically saying that she supports him because he's dovish.

Letting the losing candidate handpick the DNC chair is literally exactly what the loser got in the last Presidential primary.

I am not trying to say I love Tulsi, although you know she's a kama'aina, but I think that it's a pretty neat solution that resolves everyone's problems and probably doesn't change anything. What, exactly, are you thinking the DNC chair does that you don't trust Tulsi Gabbard to do? Why didn't anybody raise these concerns like four months ago when she was pretty obviously next in line to be the DNC chair but hadn't endorsed Bernie Sanders?
Where did she recant her views? She's a total stickler for using the term ISLAMIC TERRORISM, and has chastised Obama repeatedly over it by going over to Fox News of all the places. Really we want this clown to be part of platform?
 
I know we're not suppose to dredge stuff up from OT and bring it here so I won't mention any specific posters or threads, but I have to admit I thought the "social issues aren't a big deal and just fix themselves, SCOTUS isn't a big deal this election and is just a talking point" was just PoliGAF hyperbole. Nope, there really are people that advocate this view.
 
I am not trying to say I love Tulsi, although you know she's a kama'aina, but I think that it's a pretty neat solution that resolves everyone's problems and probably doesn't change anything. What, exactly, are you thinking the DNC chair does that you don't trust Tulsi Gabbard to do? Why didn't anybody raise these concerns like four months ago when she was pretty obviously next in line to be the DNC chair but hadn't endorsed Bernie Sanders?

Where is this coming from? I don't remember anyone suggesting that Gabbard was the heir apparent for the DNC chair when she endorsed Sanders. Its not like there's any history of a vice chair being promoted. Its not a succession.
 

Metaphoreus

This is semantics, and nothing more
Remington literally makes the same post about FOIA, and I mean word for word the same post, every time anything happens about Hillary's emails. I already tried talking to him about how, like, having visibility into government actions is a good thing and I can't recommend the effort, unless you really enjoy reading the phrase "it's nothing but trash."

I thought it looked familiar. Here are the past examples returned by Google:

FOIA is nothing but trash.

This shit is why FOIA is nothing but trash. Repeal this mistake.

How would her personal correspondence become public? Surely FOIA (which was nothing but trash and should be repealed) wouldn't apply to them?

Fucking repeal FOIA, holy fuck, this is insane. It's nothing but trash.

Fucking repeal FOIA, holy shit.

To this he quickly added:

At the very least it should be curtailed extensively. One change I'd make if repealing it entirely were not an option (which it should be) would be to ban nuisance groups from being able to make FOIA requests.

But in all seriousness, FOIA is straight garbage.

FOIA is nothing but trash. I'd vote for anyone who made repealing it a campaign plank.

Dear Christ, FOIA was a mistake. It's nothing but trash.

FOIA is garbage.

I think it's a desperate coded plea for help.
 

Doc Holliday

SPOILER: Columbus finds America
He saw those Trump cartoons and realized he'd been seeing Trump's hair with an incorrect perspective all this time.

But, honestly, the RNC must be REALLY flexing some muscle behind-the-scenes to coalesce everybody behind Trump so quickly and seamlessly. I thought Ryan would hold out, given his own presidential ambitions, but maybe he's concluded 4-8 years is a long time for people to forget this OR that Speaker is a terrible job to have if you want to have a presidential future.

I wish it was the RNC doing arm twisting, that would mean guys like Ryan had some sort of intergrity, but alas its just basic opportunism. They were saying all this crap about Trump when he was polling way behind Hilary, now the polls show him having a chance, they are all aboard. Remember these are the same guys who thought Romney was gonna trounce Obama.
 
Warren's probably the only person who could make an all-female Hillary ticket work but it'd be craaazy. People thought we wouldn't see this for another decade at least.
 

HylianTom

Banned
Warren is on yet another tweetstorm. Hot damn.

If @realDonaldTrump actually believes every stupid lie he reads on the Internet, we’re in for a truckload of trouble if he’s President.

Anytime someone calls out @realDonaldTrump, he replies with right-wing conspiracies & lies. It’s not presidential - & getting very old.

I fight for working families every day, @realDonaldTrump. You fight only for Donald Trump.

Fling as much mud as you want, @realDonaldTrump. Your words & actions disqualify you from being President - & I won't stop saying it.
 
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