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[Maledict]

She donated a small portion to a charity when the media called her out on it.

Ah, I see. We're back in conspiracy land again.

Yep, HIllary is against legalising cannabis because of the impact it will have on her imaginary donors.

Did you know that Bernie was against gun control legislation because he likes kids being shot?

 

[Bel Marduk]

Ah, I see. We're back in conspiracy land again.

Yep, HIllary is against legalising cannabis because of the impact it will have on her imaginary donors.

Did you know that Bernie was against gun control legislation because he likes kids being shot?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under...rivate-prison-lobbyist-cash-to-charity-218524

I don't believe she had some kind of moral epiphany at all. She was called out on it in media.

 

[User 463088]

EBay.. You know we will fuck it up. We fuck it up in the end all the time.

Since we are talking about sport movies.. How bout a movie where the Ravens win the Super Bowl... In Cleveland.

Only if they beat Cleveland by a field goal...kicked by Dawson who was traded to the Ravens at the 11th hour because reasons.....

 

[thefro]

What has Bernie gotten himself into. Trump is going to slaughter him...

I think it's a good thing as long as it's not:

"Mr. Trump and I agree!" "Hillary sucks!"

It'd likely stop any Berniebros from voting for Trump.

 

[dramatis]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under...rivate-prison-lobbyist-cash-to-charity-218524

I don't believe she had some kind of moral epiphany at all. She was called out on it in media.

Unlike the Sanders campaign, her campaign is good at managing money, so they are able to donate the whole amount of what the private prison lobby gave her to charity. You're welcome to criticize, but use the facts.

Mind you, I believe you aren't truly for progressive causes, which means by your logic I must be right. The sheer belief of it all must make it true.

 

[Wilsongt]

Emaillary indictment today?

 

[PBY]

wait trump is actually gonna debate bernie? wtf



dude this is just gonna end up being a shitshow, and is gonna hurt hillary



also i really like hillary, but her marijuana stance is the reason a lot of people hate her. come the fuck on hillary.

 

[Paskil]

Damn, a bunch of you are shitting the bed.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

I think it's a good thing as long as it's not:

"Mr. Trump and I agree!" "Hillary sucks!"

It'd likely stop any Berniebros from voting for Trump.

It won't be. Bernie hates Trump and everything he stands for. They're not going to go up there and agree with each other and just bash Hillary for 2 hours.

 

[PBY]

It won't be. Bernie hates Trump and everything he stands for. They're not going to go up there and agree with each other and just bash Hillary for 2 hours.

you just KNOW trump is gonna be out here talking about how crooked hillary rigged it against bernie, and how hed love to run against bernie, and how bernie should run 3rd party if hillary steals the nomination from him, etc etc

 

[balladofwindfishes]

you just KNOW trump is gonna be out here talking about how crooked hillary rigged it against bernie, and how hed love to run against bernie, and how bernie should run 3rd party if hillary steals the nomination from him, etc etc

And Bernie will deflect it all back to himself. This is a chance for Bernie to show super delegates that he should be the candidate (in his mind), and just sitting and bashing Hillary for 2 hours doesn't do anything for Bernie.

 

[Hindl]

They blatantly went out of their way too find an unflattering picture of her.

Eh every site does that for all celebrities/politicians. I've seen the same unflattering pictures for cruz, jeb, Marco and Bernie. Nothing sexist there in my mind

I've been reading Hillary's platform on her website.

I like what I'm reading except there's one thing I'm noticing isn't there. Legalize weed, Hillary.

Yeah it's a bummer, she at least wants to reschedule it. She's old tho I wasn't really expecting it. Plus a lot can happen in 4

Spoiler

8

years, look at Obama and gay marriage. Plus if enough states legalize it on their own we could see a snowball effect, also like gay marriage

 

[dramatis]

you just KNOW trump is gonna be out here talking about how crooked hillary rigged it against bernie, and how hed love to run against bernie, and how bernie should run 3rd party if hillary steals the nomination from him, etc etc

But here's the hilarious part: you know how Sanders is now a stubborn salty bastard that thinks he's still above politics? This holier-than-thou temperament isn't going to change just because he is facing Donald Trump. Trump can try to make it about Hillary, but Sanders will treat himself like he's the actual presidential candidate and try to make it about himself and Trump.

 

[Maledict]

It won't be. Bernie hates Trump and everything he stands for. They're not going to go up there and agree with each other and just bash Hillary for 2 hours.

To put it bluntly - Bernie isn't good enough at this to not have it turn into a shit show. Trump is very good at that, Bernie isn't. Trump can pivot to crooked Hillary and the cheating democratic nomination system for every question and Bernie will be forced to either defend her and the DNC or agree in some way. Unless Bernie is willing to cross the Rubicon and come out swinging to defend HIllary it's going to hurt the democrats in November.

I am with Adam though, I think behind the scenes the DNC won't allow this to go ahead. Of course for the republicans this is a huge opportunity for gain.

 

[danm999]

And Bernie will deflect it all back to himself. This is a chance for Bernie to show super delegates that he should be the candidate (in his mind), and just sitting and bashing Hillary for 2 hours doesn't do anything for Bernie.

Yeah I think the only play here for Bernie is to go hard against Trump and try and bruise his ego over GE polls that show him whupping Trump or whatever.

I think even he knows appearing complicit in a Fox News/Trump ambush won't really do anything for him.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

The problem is if Trump has any sense at all (which I think he does), every single question will be responded to by either:

A) attacking hillary, forcing Bernie to either defend her (never happening) or tacitly agree and make it harder to unify the party

B) making the 'we are both outsiders treated badly by the party', with the same result

Bernie is an idiot for doing this, and unlike Crab I think this has no good result either for him or for her. Trump is the only person that profits by this.

I'm not entirely convinced it will happen, like Adam. I think it's yet another thing where Sanders is saying "take me seriously, you can't pivot to the general just yet". The most sizeable thing I could see coming from it is Clinton being forced to give Sanders the debate she originally promised to, although I think even that is unlikely. That said, I do think Sanders stands to gain from this if it goes ahead and if (critical if) it goes well. I can guarantee this would get enormous viewership if it did happen, and that gives Sanders yet another sword to hang over Clinton in private - "you can give me more concessions, or I can double-team you with Trump".

 

[PBY]

To put it bluntly - Bernie isn't good enough at this to not have it turn into a shit show. Trump is very good at that, Bernie isn't. Trump can pivot to crooked Hillary and the cheating democratic nomination system for every question and Bernie will be forced to either defend her and the DNC or agree in some way. Unless Bernie is willing to cross the Rubicon and come out swinging to defend HIllary it's going to hurt the democrats in November.

I am with Adam though, I think behind the scenes the DNC won't allow this to go ahead. Of course for the republicans this is a huge opportunity for gain.

This.

 

[quantico]

Ya'll need to chill out a bit until something happens that deserves being worried about. Worrying about speculation about how a possible Bernie Trump debate that hasn't even been confirmed isn't helpful for anything!

 

[Foffy]

Eh every site does that for all celebrities/politicians. I've seen the same unflattering pictures for cruz, jeb, Marco and Bernie. Nothing sexist there in my mind



Yeah it's a bummer, she at least wants to reschedule it. She's old tho I wasn't really expecting it. Plus a lot can happen in 4

Spoiler

8

years, look at Obama and gay marriage. Plus if enough states legalize it on their own we could see a snowball effect, also like gay marriage

I would not like to wait

Spoiler

48

years for society to get back to reason, thanks.

 

[PBY]

For those saying this won't happen - I'm inclined to agree, but what worries me is that this is picking up steam online. It's on politico,Twitter etc


I dunno man. What the fuck Bernie. Hillary gotta get waaaaaay out in front of this.

 

[Orbis Tabula]

My read on the debate:
1) I don't think it'll actually happen.
2) I don't think it'll change things too much
3) I expect Bernie will try to spend the debate going against Trump rather than against Clinton.

Maybe that's giving him too much credit, but I know he would rather have Clinton win than Trump and I think he's smart enough to realize how this could go wrong. I'm not gonna freak out about things that might happen, at least, if nothing I do can change it. Freak out after if it goes bad, don't waste the energy now.

 

[PBY]

I feel like Hillary hasn't been great during this pre-nomination period. Not sure what she could be doing better, but right now it's not impressive.

She needs to handle this debate FUCKERY expertly.

 

[benicillin]

I feel like Hillary hasn't been great during this pre-nomination period. Not sure what she could be doing better, but right now it's not impressive.

She needs to handle this debate FUCKERY expertly.

I'm sure if it actually amounted to anything other than a Jimmy Kimmel interview and a Sanders staffer posting antagonizing tweets she would, but this is nothing. They have talked about debating each other for months and it's never happened.

 

[dramatis]

I feel like Hillary hasn't been great during this pre-nomination period. Not sure what she could be doing better, but right now it's not impressive.

She needs to handle this debate FUCKERY expertly.

Diablos is literally cloning himself

 

[Y2Kev]

I say there's no bloody way trump actually goes through with a debate.

Look I said bloody. I'm crab. I'm English.

 

[benicillin]

I say there's no bloody way trump actually goes through with a debate.

It's almost like they've done this exact thing before, where Fox was going to host a Trump/Bernie debate and Trump backed out due to scheduling conflicts.

 

[Wilsongt]

I love how thr GOP is anti public assistance when it comes to povery.... Yet a lot of their policies have had an effect on povery rates.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2016/05/25/3781829/john-lewis-good-trouble-peter-roskam/

Conservatives who want to weaken anti-poverty programs are a lot like black civil rights protesters who put their lives and freedom on the line to defeat Jim Crow laws in the heart of Ku Klux Klan country, according to Rep. Peter Roskam (R-IL).

The Illinois congressman proceeded to rattle off the party line about poverty programs: For all the money America has spent fighting poverty, it remains stubbornly high, which justifies establishing new, stricter rules that would boot people off of public assistance roles if they can’t find work and that would convert federal funding into “block grants” that state-level leaders can spend on whatever they choose.

 

[PBY]

I dunno brehs.


Logically, I hear y'all on why this won't happen.


But this is really picking up steam online.

 

[Orbis Tabula]

God, I think I need some time off from this shit. I mean, I doubt I'll be able to actually ignore it, but. I need some time off. Fuck. I need a real hobby instead of politics.

 

[thefro]

I say there's no bloody way trump actually goes through with a debate.

Look I said bloody. I'm crab. I'm English.

That's certainly the most likely scenario by far.

I also think it's highly likely that if the debate happens, it helps the Dems and hurts Trump in the general. Bernie will make it clear he doesn't want Donald Trump to be President.

 

[RustyNails]

Hillary should ignore the fuckery and focus on campaigning/fundraising. If Bernie and Trump decide to debate, it will backfire on Bernie. It looks desperate, selfish play from Bernie and unfair to Hillary.

 

[ampere]

Trump backing off his previous comments in support of transgender rights on Kimmel right now, using the typical republican response "leave it to the states" and wouldn't clarify his own position only the party's.
Not surprised he's floppin around as usual, but smh

99% sure he only took a stance earlier to fight with Cruz over

He doesn't care otherwise

 

[PBY]

That's certainly the most likely scenario by far.

I also think it's highly likely that if the debate happens, it helps the Dems and hurts Trump in the general. Bernie will make it clear he doesn't want Donald Trump to be President.

Will he tho?

 

[Foffy]

I love how thr GOP is anti public assistance when it comes to povery.... Yet a lot of their policies have had an effect on povery rates.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2016/05/25/3781829/john-lewis-good-trouble-peter-roskam/

I wish people who held views like they did would be laughed out of the room they argued in, because even standing to that level of intelligence is too much to handle. Of course, it's idiots like Roskam who are blissfully unaware of potential factors that may expand poverty in the future, which would not only make his stance futile even further, but continue to expand situations that promote suffering and conflict.

Then again, he is against abortion in cases of incest and rape, denies climate change, and opposes same sex marriage. We can admit he's unintelligent as all get out, but perhaps he's a lost cause to reason. How would he support data and trends of society and risks of poverty when he rejects data and trends of the objective world and the environment?

I wish we could pick the brains of regressives and ask them how poverty happens and how to fix it. I think in that alone we can start skinning the ghosts their entire bullshit perception is based upon. How much of their views are based on myths of individual will being the raft to move one's ship?

 

[royalan]

I'm actually disturbed by how much this is picking up steam.

The Bernie stans on my facebook feed that were once dormant are alive again and spamming this shit.

Bernie just stole a news cycle from his own party.

 

[Veritigo_X]

If this even happens, I can't see Trump attacking Bernie, like at all. He's been not so subtly courting the anti-establishment Bernie voters by making the same corruption cries you see on Reddit. It's basically going to be a debate with Trump and Bernie shitting on Hillary for an hour. Sounds like a blast.

 

[Orbis Tabula]

If this even happens, I can't see Trump attacking Bernie, like at all. He's been not so subtly courting the anti-establishment Bernie voters by making the same corruption cries you see on Reddit. It's basically going to be a debate with Trump and Bernie shitting on Hillary for an hour. Sounds like a blast.

If Trump decides to spend the entire debate refusing to attack Sanders, then I look forward to an hour long debate of Sanders attacking Trump unopposed. Using a Trump debate to attack Clinton seems like a move that's almost too political for Bernie to do. I think he'll use the debate to attack Trump. As much as he doesn't like Hillary, he really doesn't like Trump.

 

[benicillin]

Will he tho?

You're right, Bernie will spend an hour at a hypothetical debate ignoring a man he called a pathological liar, a racist and an embarrassment to the country that he's pledged to do everything he can to make sure doesn't become President...to attack Hillary Clinton. Nah, I just don't see it.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

I say there's no bloody way trump actually goes through with a debate.

Look I said bloody. I'm crab. I'm English.

I'm Welsh.

;_;

 

[Deleted member 231381]

I'm actually disturbed by how much this is picking up steam.

The Bernie stans on my facebook feed that were once dormant are alive again and spamming this shit.

Bernie just stole a news cycle from his own party.

Clinton only has herself to blame. She offered four debates, did three, explicitly turned down one. She can't really be surprised that Sanders decided to go after the news cycle by himself. She could have just gone to the debate with him; it wouldn't really have cost her, she's won anyway.

 

[Y2Kev]

Bernie did her a favor knocking the emails out of the news cycle for something that won't even happen.

I mean Bernie is a toad of a man but can you please stop setting your hair on fire every morning.

 

[Veritigo_X]

If Trump decides to spend the entire debate refusing to attack Sanders, then I look forward to an hour long debate of Sanders attacking Trump unopposed. Using a Trump debate to attack Clinton seems like a move that's almost too political for Bernie to do. I think he'll use the debate to attack Trump. As much as he doesn't like Hillary, he really doesn't like Trump.

I would hope so. Maybe I'm just being cynical, but I don't like how Bernie is framing this as a California primary debate (where Hillary is still his opponent). If Fox News is still hosting it they could also stick to questions where Bernie and Trump have some common ground. It would be a lot harder for Bernie to attack Trump if that happened.

Bernie did her a favor knocking the emails out of the news cycle for something that won't even happen.

This is a good point.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

I think accepting the debate offer is really malicious and discourteous and proves he has no respect for the democratic party and its nomination process. I haven't really been flustered by Bernie news in a while because it was all very self contained but this puts him back in the national spotlight when he hasn't earned it.

Clinton only has herself to blame.

Victim blaming smh

 

[Orbis Tabula]

The way I see it, if the DNC or the Clinton camp thinks this is really that dangerous to the chance of a democratic president next year, they can stop it. Hillary could agree to debate Bernie and then presumably the Bernie Trump debate is off. Or, the DNC can give Bernie more influence in the party in exchange from him agreeing to quit the debate. These are options they have. Theyll exercise them if they think that there's a threat here.

But I also don't think this debate will happen anyway.

 

[PBY]

Yo political Twitter is rooting so hard for this debate.


S4p going ham.


This is gonna happen brehs.

 

[shinra-bansho]

She's won already so why on earth continue the charade of a debate on Fox News of all networks. She's had it won for a while now.

Also it's not going to happen because Trump says a lot of shit.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Victim blaming smh

"victim"

 

[User1608]

Clinton only has herself to blame. She offered four debates, did three, explicitly turned down one. She can't really be surprised that Sanders decided to go after the news cycle by himself. She could have just gone to the debate with him; it wouldn't really have cost her, she's won anyway.

Really? She was right not to debate him. At this point, she is far ahead of him in popular votes, delegates, and superdelegates. Dude tried to make his case and lost rather badly.

 

[Y2Kev]

Yo political Twitter is rooting so hard for this debate.


S4p going ham.


This is gonna happen brehs.

Please cover your ass. The thread can see it!

 

[shinra-bansho]

Also all the Dem debates have basically been boring as duck. Because Clinton rambles on in minutiae that no one cares about in a debate setting. While Sanders just stumps for an hour.