I think accepting the debate offer is really malicious and discourteous and proves he has no respect for the democratic party and its nomination process. I haven't really been flustered by Bernie news in a while because it was all very self contained but this puts him back in the national spotlight when he hasn't earned it.
Really? She was right not to debate him. At this point, she is far ahead of him in popular votes, delegates, and superdelegates. Dude tried to make his case and lost rather badly.
Haha, and people want the DNC to give some kind of concessions to this egomaniacal man that can't stand he's losing a primary fair and square? Get bent, Bernie! I can't wait until I never have to see his smug face ever again.
I've mostly stayed out of the weird Bernie / gun control debacle because I'm personally not very familiar with PLCAA enough to have much of an informed opinion, but I had no idea until recently he was one of the senators that voted to deny the CDC funding to study gun violence.
Granted, he's changed his stance (somewhat?) since then so I don't want to go too ham on him (I'm certainly of the opinion politicians can change their mind), but it's weird to be running on a platform of socialized medicine while having an inconsistent history in supporting the study of one of the most important public health issues in the nation.
I think accepting the debate offer is really malicious and discourteous and proves he has no respect for the democratic party and its nomination process. I haven't really been flustered by Bernie news in a while because it was all very self contained but this puts him back in the national spotlight when he hasn't earned it.
I don't know if I want them to. But it is something they can do. He clearly has the leverage.
Maybe Bernie thinks it's a way to share ideas? To present his ideas as a lasting message, which surely has already happened to some degree?
Maybe he wants to showcase Trumps already obvious hatred, ignorance, and foolishness?
I think he has far less than he thinks he has.
I would believe this but he's been very cynical and petty lately.....ingraining conspiracy theories etc.
Yes, I forgot that Bernie Sanders is the only progressive left in this campaign. He is the father of progressivism.Maybe Bernie thinks it's a way to share ideas? To present his ideas as a lasting message, which surely has already happened to some degree?
Probably. I've not followed his recent tirades, as I kind of lost supporting him as he became more of the bulletpoint person, just repeating himself.
Not every problem on earth is from Wall Street, and unfortunately for him, Sanders lacks the social capital to invest in the ideas he wants (some of which I like more than Hillary's) but surely faces the Legion of Doom known as Republicans in office.
I can at least accept Clinton, because while I despise some of her spin and dislike some of her responses to issues, she, like Sanders, are the only motherfuckers in the game that even accept problems within reason. The alternative is just too drastic and too ignorant that it will only pour salt into the wounds, and we as a collective are a body that needs stitches and chemo.
I would hope Hillary isn't double teamed considering Bernie's values are much closer to her's than Trump's. It would show his true character if he too attacked her. It could be potential for damage in the GE.She's right not to debate him if that's the best strategic move for her. If her not debating him means he debates Trump and she ends up at best losing a news cycle and at worst getting double-teamed, that's probably worse than her debating Sanders instead where she'd probably be perceived to win. As such, this was a bad strategy, so she wasn't right to do it.
I mean, it's an easy mistake to make, I didn't see it coming either, but then again, I don't imagine Sanders did this out of the blue, so if I were her I'd probably know he'd considered doing this.
I would hope Hillary isn't double teamed considering Bernie's values are much closer to her's than Trump's. It would show his true character if he too attacked her it could be potential for damage in the GE.
Yes, I forgot that Bernie Sanders is the only progressive left in this campaign. He is the father of progressivism.
I would hope Hillary isn't double teamed considering Bernie's values are much closer to her's than Trump's. It would show his true character if he too attacked her. It could be potential for damage in the GE.
the notion of a universal health care system as single payer
This would be an equivalent level of stupid. No, really. Actual nominee debating the opposing loser which an axe to grind on ideological matters that the party hates. Cruz rigging the convention is about equally as likely as Sanders getting it. So in that regard they're both still in the game! Except not.Clinton should be debaTED.
So wait...is this Bernie/Trump debate moderated by TYT really happening?
So wait...is this Bernie/Trump debate moderated by TYT really happening?
Except he has. You guys have invented a boogie man Bernie in your minds that is so far disconnected from reality it's crazy.Well, you know that he won't defend her. He's shown to be almost incapable of doing it.
So wait...is this Bernie/Trump debate moderated by TYT really happening?
Wait, what? This is the first I've heard of TYT being involved. Lord that would be a shitshow.
I'd hesitate to call that progressive, it's honestly closer to dishonesty.
We cannot transition to single payer in the US in the next 8 years, probably not even the next 20 years. We can have universal health care and have it be multi-payer, which is much more attainable given it's closer to our current system.
Bernie has to know this, or he's an idiot. Hillary knows this so she proposes expanding the ACA, which is all Bernie could do anyway!
Multiple sources tell @Cbsnews that Trump was kidding about debating Sanders & it will never happen. (H/t @stevechaggaris and @MajorCBS)
*snicker*
Funny thing, I don't see that many Hillary fans going crazy of this.
It's the Bernie stans I'm friends with going nuts.
I think it's kind of hilarious in how absurd it is. Bernie is falling right into a Trump trap and he either doesn't even realize it, or thinks he can work around the obvious bait and make Trump look bad.
I don't really think there's any real concern for Hillary supporters to panic about this circus. If anything, we should be happy Trump took the spotlight away from the email report from yesterday.
Yeah, unfortunately .Well, you know that he won't defend her. He's shown to be almost incapable of doing it.
Eh, kind of mean at that point.I mean, I'm absolutely confident he won't do that. But all he needs to do get leverage is make Clinton think he might do it; and if her supporters are a reasonable analogue for how she feels about it, she's pretty shook.
Lmao at least he shows himself as a coward.
Except he has. You guys have invented a boogie man Bernie in your minds that is so far disconnected from reality it's crazy.
Isn't opinion already moving this way, though? Bernie staying in the race doesn't have to happen.I was not speaking of progressivism itself, but some ideas. For example, the notion of a universal health care system as single payer. I think this is where he and Clinton still differ, for example. That may last, even if he, as the candidate talking about it, falls from the race. Do you follow?
I am not saying Clinton is some middle of the road hawkish shill twerker lady. Please don't take it that way.
Funny thing, I don't see that many Hillary fans going crazy of this.
Some of you should be fucking embarrassed.
I never once said this would be a flick of a switch, or that such a thing would happen if he got into office. Ideas take time, and what I was getting at is that ideas can be put into action long after they've been proposed. How long has it taken us to get to the default state of acceptance regarding gays? Decades. We're that fucking stupid to get back to square one, and that's an easy fucking example to cite.
To out myself here, I am a big hooker for basic income, but I am all but assured I will be in poverty and die long before any developed society gets the common sense to implement it. That doesn't change the fact I will shill that idea as it can solve problems now, and the sooner we entertain it we can avoid further problems looming on the horizon. No candidate has even entertained the notion other than hand waving it, which Sanders and Clinton both poorly did.