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Orbis Tabula
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Man, good thing we didn't spend hours fucking flipping out over this, huh? Glad this place has perpetually been the den of reason.
Hell. Make it the current one.
Hell. Make it the current one.
LOL - this is a political thread made up primarily of Hillary supporters. Of course it's going to get discussed.
In my normal social circles, I don't see many people outside of Bernie supporters caring.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Over the past few decades, some liberals preferred to use the term progressive because 'liberal' had more of a negative stigma due to the right's smear campaigns (e.g. liberals are traitors). Progressive is nothing more than an alternative label for liberal. They're interchangeable. Liberal thinkers like Lakoff interchange the terms randomly. The liberal agenda is the progressive agenda, the progressive agenda is the liberal agenda. Progressive values are the same as liberal values. There is no need for the term progressive anymore- liberals are proud to be called liberals, and the minutia that self identified progressives use to justify the use of progressive to differentiate themselves are just not significant enough to validate it as it's own ideology.
I really wonder who tweeted that.
balladofwindfishes
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Man, Trump looks awful in this. Now he's the guy who said "I'll do this thing for charity, come on everyone!" and then everyone joins in gets excited and he says "jk, it was just a prank, bro."
What was Trump's plan for this? Now he looks like a jerk, while Bernie just goes back to being irrelevant and gets some talking points about Trump being a coward.
What was Trump's plan for this? Now he looks like a jerk, while Bernie just goes back to being irrelevant and gets some talking points about Trump being a coward.
HillaryIs44?
He was playing his usual lip service, and probably didn't expect the news to blow up so quickly and almost become real.
Trump really loves to hurt himself. Good, good...
He has no spine. *I predict he'll try to pull out of a debate in the GE.
In all seriousness, lesson learned. Don't. Freak. Out.
Orbis Tabula
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I don't think Trump is too concerned about coming across as a jerk.
shinra-bansho
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Trump doesn't look anything in this because in the real world no one gives a shit.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Pot needs to be legalized so this whole thread can get high and mellow out.
AntraxSuicide
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I would go so far as to say LSD and psilocybin.
If only because I can actually consider taking those then, without being ostracized by society and forced to live in a yurt.
I think we do all need to take chill pills from time to time.
Early cycle polling freakouts especially
All part of the plan. Shillary playing 4 dimensional chess by hacking Sanders' twitter account!
Early cycle polling freakouts especially
All part of the plan. Shillary playing 4 dimensional chess by hacking Sanders' twitter account!
ItWasMeantToBe19
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balladofwindfishes
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Apparently Don hit the delegate threshold today?
Remember when we thought it would be a contested convention. It was guaranteed, there was no way Trump was ever hitting the total. The road was just too hard for him to do it, and Cruz would go all the way to make his run miserable.
Remember when we thought it would be a contested convention. It was guaranteed, there was no way Trump was ever hitting the total. The road was just too hard for him to do it, and Cruz would go all the way to make his run miserable.
I can see the attack ads against Trump during the GE over this now:
Slow fade to Hillary, handing out donations to starving children, and serving the homeless at the soup kitchen.
She gingerly passes a stuffed teddy bear to a child in tattered clothes and pats her on the head.
She hugs a homeless man after filling his bowl with chicken noodle soup and nonchalantly swats away a fly.
She turns to the camera - ladle filled with soup still in hand - and says . . .
"Trump wouldn't debate a man I wiped the floor with in the primary . . . even to raise money for charity . . . he's wrong for America . . . and wrong for its people."
Quick cut to the same child, now hugging her newly found Teddy Bear, saying under her breath, "YAS QUEEN", before letting out a solitary, ominous cough.
"I'm Hillary Clinton and I approved this message."
Slow fade to Hillary, handing out donations to starving children, and serving the homeless at the soup kitchen.
She gingerly passes a stuffed teddy bear to a child in tattered clothes and pats her on the head.
She hugs a homeless man after filling his bowl with chicken noodle soup and nonchalantly swats away a fly.
She turns to the camera - ladle filled with soup still in hand - and says . . .
"Trump wouldn't debate a man I wiped the floor with in the primary . . . even to raise money for charity . . . he's wrong for America . . . and wrong for its people."
Quick cut to the same child, now hugging her newly found Teddy Bear, saying under her breath, "YAS QUEEN", before letting out a solitary, ominous cough.
"I'm Hillary Clinton and I approved this message."
I'd go as far as to say that all drugs should be decriminalized for possession because them being illegal funds criminals and the cartel and terrorists.
But then everyone will whine and call me a radical....
Bernie's going to be on Jimmy Kimmel tonight so they'll talk about Trump chickening out.
Bel Marduk
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What a shame.
Bernie would've curbstomped Trump.
Bernie would've curbstomped Trump.
I'd maybe allow full decriminalization for research, but there are certain drugs I don't think should be allowed for possession. Stuff like meth, heroin, crack, etc. Basically anything that is highly addictive and causes physical bodily harm. Determining that line would be tough, but if you don't mind, could you explain why you would want those types of drugs decriminalized for possession? Again, for medicinal research I'd even allow those, but beyond that I'm not sure.
Only if you decriminalize them, create a period of tabula rasa, and start regulating the drugs which we know have addictive properties and toxicity risks.
It'll probably be the only way to get a good deal of psychotropics legal in the first place. And I actually don't think your idea is radical, actually.
AntraxSuicide
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Current one!
Yeah, I'm not really cool with certain super hard drugs being legal. Stuff like meth is almost guaranteed to affect other people in ways that can be dangerous. Stuff like pot and party drugs, who cares.
I actually don't think so. Trump does better in debates than Bernie does with audiences. Obviously, the substance is lacking, but that's not really why people watch debates.
shinra-bansho
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They would have just both waffled for a couple hours saying absolutely nothing and making unrealistic claims. Also, Benghazi!
Orbis Tabula
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Maybe not Bernie will mock Trump on Kimmel for backing out. That would be fun.
BotoxAgent
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Ha! Good, man!
Sanders is still acting like he's relevant in some way.
@PpollingNumbers said:
https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/735815587104985092
Clinton now leading in Rasmussen's poll.
I think we all can stop worrying.
Well they're certainly not going to talk about his expected victory in June, or Hillary agreeing to a debate so it's something.
balladofwindfishes
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Looks like Trump's bump is over and we settle back down to reality.
Can we stop panicking every single day that Trump will be president?
Can we stop panicking every single day that Trump will be president?
It is very hard to draw a line and the current drug schedules we have are completely arbitrary and unfounded. For example,heroin is schedule 1 (totally illegal) but morphine is schedule 2 and is used for medicinal purposes. They're literally the exact same thing, just in 2:1 ratios. Heroin is also known as diamorphine. So 1mg heroin = 2mg morphine. You think it's because it's more potent? Nope, fentanyl is a legal prescription drug and it is magnitudes higher in potency than either of those. So I guess heroin is illegal just because of the name? In other countries they can just prescribe you heroin
I would want all possession of drugs decriminalized because I dont believe in punishing victims. When drugs are illegal, then criminals are making huge profits. Make them less illegal and you can cut out a huge chunk of the Mexican and colombian drug cartels source of money. They cause so much violence not only in their own countries but all across the US. Cut off their source of money.
Only if you decriminalize them, create a period of tabula rasa, and start regulating the drugs which we know have addictive properties and toxicity risks.
It'll probably be the only way to get a good deal of psychotropics legal in the first place. And I actually don't think your idea is radical, actually.
I agree with you
Meth is dangerous and I've never done it. Except in a dream, after watching Breaking Bad once. But you know what, meth wouldn't even be a thing if it wasn't for the crackdown on cocaine. Meth arose out of that demand.And it's way worse for your health than cocaine ever was.
And that's not the only example. Make one drug illegal and chemists will make a new one that takes its place. In some cases, change a single molecule, it's a new chemical, and it's not illegal. LSD is illegal so they made 1p-LSD, ETH-LAD, AL-LAD and other lysergamides. So now instead of using the more well researched LSD we have people doing new drugs. And these drugs could have potentially harmful effects. For example, MT-45 is a synthetic opiate that causes hair loss. But it was legal so people bought it. Would've just been better if they did heroin.
By the way some children are prescribed meth for their ADD. No, I dont mean adderall, I mean desoxyn, which is literal methamphetamine. Its not very common but it does exist. So according to the US law, meth has medical use but marijuana doesn't. Okay
Our drug laws do not have a basis in reality.
Xanax is schedule IV. LSD, shrooms, dmt are schedule one. Guess which one of those had me make a complete fool of myself? LSD doesnt make you think you're superman and jump out the window to fly. Xanax on the otherhand will make shoplifting, driving, and starting fights look very tempting.
But it's okay because your doctor prescribes it!
By the way, MDMA ("molly") has been shown time nd time again to outright cure PTSD. Shrooms have stopped cluster headaches. Ketamine is being used as an antidepressant. Let the people decide for themselves what is good for their body.
Orbis Tabula
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Rasmussen? Anyone wanna read the cross tabs and tell me why I shouldn't believe this poll?
#TeamFollowTheAggregatesInsteadOfRelyingOnCrossTabsToDiscreditScaryPolls #TeamTooLongHashtags
Oh wow. Shocked
eBay Huckster
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This year.
Madam President.
Wacky Bernie fades away into the aether after November.
And a Cleveland sports team finally wins one.
AntraxSuicide
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Nice, if even they're not getting a Trump win, then it's settling well. I'm sticking with 55-45 in the GE.
Pls, this place isn't settling down for anything.
Meh, I think if you checked, you could still find this poll to be more suspect. I prefer aggregates, but using them comes with the tacit assumption that each poll is at least going to be worth adding to the aggregate in the first place. If I ran around and did my own poll that showed Trump winning 90-10 (and then repeatedly did this, getting the same results) I think you would rightly be suspicious instead of just trusting an aggregate with my polls in there.
Dubbedinenglish
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DWS showed up with a spatula ready to whoop their ass.
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