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[TheLaughingStock]

The issue is that his message has been problematically simplistic ("break up the banks" - whatever that means), vague in how it would accomplish its goal and doesn't seem to factor into account how difficult such policies would be able to implement in this political environment.

You could easily look up what it would entail with an internet search, alternatively go to school and become a regulator yourself, or talk to someone with a track record of success at the federal level in the US. Breaking up US institutions means imposing capital requirements corresponding to risks associated with size, non-commercial banking activity, compensation incentives, hiring, retention, and so on.

 

[Big Baybee]

How so?

Did you hear the crowd of supporters chanting Bernie or Bust right after Bernie himself finished saying we can't let republicans win? Lol

 

[B-Dubs]

You could easily look up what it would entail, alternatively go to school and become a regulator yourself, or talk to someone with a track record of success at the federal level in the US. Breaking up US institutions means imposing capital requirements corresponding to risks associated with size, non-commercial banking activity, compensation incentives, hiring, retention, and so on.

It'd be nice if Bernie could actually talk about what that entails when asked about it point blank is what he's saying.

 

[Alcander]

Ugh. This is so annoying

 

[Brinbe]

Fuck this guy. In it for himself

 

[Officerrob]

Steve Kornacki's about to destroy Bernie's road to the pledged delegate lead

 

[Emarv]

How so?

I assume they mean far wing of the party revolting against the party itself. I don't fully buy the comparison, but there is a form of ideological purity driving the Sanders movement reminiscent of the conservative purity of the early Tea Party.

 

[FiggyCal]

Did you hear the crowd of supporters chanting Bernie or Bust right after Bernie himself finished saying we can't let republicans win? Lol

I get it now. I still think, from actual polling that these people are a small minority though.

 

[jack_package_200]

Lol he is only winning by 5%

#dropoutbernie

 

[Valhelm]

Without Superpac's how is Hillary suppose to compete with Billiionaire Donald Trump and the Billionaire's donating to them.

Like I wonder what Bernie thinks of Warren Buffett.

Bernie made the no super pacs promise back when he was still being grouped with Lincoln Chafee and Jim Webb, and never expected to win more than a couple states. As his popularity exploded, he stuck with it due to his image of sincerity and his own stubbornness.

Pragmatism is necessary, especially when promoting heterodox ideology.

 

[Teggy]

Yes. That is his name.

This is his website: http://prolifeidaho.com/

Constitution Party, everybody.

Holy shit...

4- Followers of Islam, if faithful, will always support Sharia Law above our Constitution, therefore, I say that no faithful Muslim can take an honest oath to follow the Constitution. This should bar Muslims from being US citizens.

And that is just a taste of what you'll find there.

 

[gcubed]

You could easily look up what it would entail with an internet search, alternatively go to school and become a regulator yourself, or talk to someone with a track record of success at the federal level in the US. Breaking up US institutions means imposing capital requirements corresponding to risks associated with size, non-commercial banking activity, compensation incentives, hiring, retention, and so on.

great, maybe you should run for president!

 

[Wilsongt]

Bernie always sounds so fucking angry.

Also, fuck the "Bernie or Bust" chant during his speech.

 

[Iolo]

I get it now. I still think, from actual polling that these people are a small minority though.

A small minority, who happen to be concentrated in the form of his delegates to the convention.

 

[AntraxSuicide]

Oh my God, I was kidding and it became real.

Bernie lacks finesse. His argument is that staying in the race allows him a place to talk about the issues unique to his campaign, but as the campaign has veered away from ideology and more toward personality this is no longer happening. He's probably doing more harm than good by not dropping, because his stubbornness could actually taint mainstream attitudes toward his political goals.

Yeah, I think his approval numbers after NY reflect this. A lot more Clinton supporters have soured on him, and others have jumped ship. Even his biggest online group is trending way down in every metric. Staffers are leaving, and he's just stumping like always. If you don't adapt over the primary, you just get blasted.

It's like in Battletoads, when you're on the surfboard. Sometimes, you go down. Sometimes up. But you have to keep moving to not crash.

Spoiler

holy shit battletoads is the hardest fucking game omg

 

[Suikoguy]

Steve just decimated Sanders chances. It's not going to happen.
There is now no chance after seeing the results of Oregon.

 

[border]

Assuming things stay roughly as they are now, what percentage of remaining delegates does Sanders need to win?

 

[Wilsongt]

Yeah, I think his approval numbers after NY reflect this. A lot more Clinton supporters have soured on him, and others have jumped ship. Even his biggest online group is trending way down in every metric. Staffers are leaving, and he's just stumping like always. If you don't adapt over the primary, you just get blasted.

It's like in Battletoads, when you're on the surfboard. Sometimes, you go down. Sometimes up. But you have to keep moving to not crash.

Spoiler

holy shit battletoads is the hardest fucking game omg

Yet someone almost completed that portion of the game during a speed run... Blindfolded.

 

[Aaron Strife]

You could easily look up what it would entail with an internet search, alternatively go to school and become a regulator yourself, or talk to someone with a track record of success at the federal level in the US. Breaking up US institutions means imposing capital requirements corresponding to risks associated with size, non-commercial banking activity, compensation incentives, hiring, retention, and so on.

Funny considering someone just posted this meme in another thread

Something about haters and hating.

 

[User 463088]

Those Oregon results are a god damn dumpster fire for Bernie's campaign. This was freaking Oregon, where Hillary invested absolutely nothing. And that's the best he got? Man....if Queen had spent some capital there....damn.

 

[Bowdz]

Elon Musk is a smart dude, but he works for his own success. He isn't overly concerned with the well-being of his workers, and his pursuit of science often isn't that scientific. Just look at his pie-in-the-sky pursuit of asteroid mining, which will make him very wealthy but not efficiently enrich our understanding of space. Somebody like Elon Musk can lead a company without using it as a framework to exploit those beneath him.

Yes, Musk, who invested $100 million of his own dollars into three companies, all of which are making the world a better place, is solely concerned with his own well being. Musk, while pushing his workers hard, not only pays them quite well, but creates an environment which is deemed meaningful by the workforce. In fact, SpaceX and Tesla are the top two most meaningful places to work in the US according to employees (https://m.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/499mnm/elon_musk_on_twitter_spacex_and_tesla_rated_most/).

Also, just for the record, Elon and SpaceX have nothing to do with asteroid mining. He has no desire to mine asteroids either.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Assuming things stay roughly as they are now, what percentage of remaining delegates does Sanders need to win?

the wall is now slightly under 68%

 

[BanGy.nz]

Assuming things stay roughly as they are now, what percentage of remaining delegates does Sanders need to win?

‏@NateSilver538
After tonight, Sanders will need to win the remaining states by ~35% to claim a pledged delegate majority.

A lot.

 

[pigeon]

Funny considering someone just posted this meme in another thread


Something about haters and hating.

Wait a second.

Is that meme supposed to be both:

* negative and
* unrealistic?

 

[JesseEwiak]

Yes, Musk, who invested $100 million of his own dollars into three companies, all of which are making the world a better place, is solely concerned with his own well being. Musk, while pushing his workers hard, not only pays them quite well, but creates an environment which is deemed meaningful by the workforce. In fact, SpaceX and Tesla are the top two most meaningful places to work in the US according to employees (https://m.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/499mnm/elon_musk_on_twitter_spacex_and_tesla_rated_most/).

Also, just for the record, Elon and SpaceX have nothing to do with asteroid mining. He has no desire to mine asteroids either.

Nobody becomes a billionaire without a few bodies in the backyard. That's the simple facts. Elon Musk isn't the savior Reddit claims he is - he's just a capitalist that happens to be in an industry the Internet likes.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toJfgrE61mQ

"@MagicMetalNinja: The Trump movement will not be stopped. We support Trump because he is a true American looking out for #AmericaFIRST."

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/732779353566760960

It's so fun that Nazi phrases from the 1940s have been revived by the Trump campaign.

 

[Bowdz]

Nobody becomes a billionaire without a few bodies in the backyard. That's the simple facts. Elon Musk isn't the savior Reddit claims he is - he's just a capitalist that happens to be in an industry the Internet likes.

He's cutthroat with his pursuit of the best product, but he represents the best of capitalism IMO. SpaceX's CCiCAP/CCDev NASA agreements and Tesla's government loan shows the way forward for the country with regards to private public partnerships.

 

[B-Dubs]

Wait a second.

Is that meme supposed to be both:

* negative and
* unrealistic?

I think so, because doing research is pandering.

 

[metalslimer]

Every time Benchmark tweets that Tyler oregon prediction I die of laughter

Bernie only netting 9 delegates tonight is hilarious

 

[JP_]

Why make a stink over the "Bernie or bust" stuff?

• Clinton dropped out in June 2008, but the month after that in July 2008, a whopping 54% of Clinton supporters said they wouldn't support Obama in the GE even after he was the presumptive nominee.
• Sanders is still in the race, yet a poll from earlier this month found that Sanders supporters would support Clinton over Trump by a 86-to-10 margin.
• Bernie or bust is already small compared to the anti-Obama hillary movement and Bernie or bust has longer to come around.

Relax

...a poll out from CNN on Wednesday finds [Sanders supporters] prefer Clinton to Trump by an 86-to-10 margin.

That's about the same ratio of Clinton supporters who voted for John McCain over Barack Obama in 2008, according to Emory political scientist Alan Abramowitz. And it's still early: As we move to the general election, Abramowitz says, Democrats are even more likely to swing behind their nominee.

...

In July 2008, 54 percent of Clinton voters said they wouldn't support Barack Obama in a general election. (They even had a nickname, "PUMAs" — "party unity my ass," the 2008 analog to today's "Bernie or bust-ers.")

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/4/11593434/bernie-sanders-poll-trump-clinton

 

[BitStyle]

Bernie always sounds so fucking angry.

Also, fuck the "Bernie or Bust" chant during his speech.

That actually happened? UGH...

 

[Trouble]

Yes, Musk, who invested $100 million of his own dollars into three companies, all of which are making the world a better place, is solely concerned with his own well being. Musk, while pushing his workers hard, not only pays them quite well, but creates an environment which is deemed meaningful by the workforce. In fact, SpaceX and Tesla are the top two most meaningful places to work in the US according to employees (https://m.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/499mnm/elon_musk_on_twitter_spacex_and_tesla_rated_most/).

Also, just for the record, Elon and SpaceX have nothing to do with asteroid mining. He has no desire to mine asteroids either.

I mean, even if he wanted to mine asteroids, so what? Long term space expansion is going to require it. Moving metal and water out of our gravity well is really resource intensive.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Those Oregon results are a god damn dumpster fire for Bernie's campaign. This was freaking Oregon, where Hillary invested absolutely nothing. And that's the best he got? Man....if Queen had spent some capital there....damn.

Yeah if she had taken the May contests more seriously she could have won Indiana and Oregon and gone 3/4 for the month. Oh well.

The fact that Bernie's wins still aren't enough makes his campaign more tragic.

 

[Cerium]

CNN is raking Bernie over the coals right now.

Good.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Yeah if she had taken the May contests more seriously she could have won Indiana and Oregon and gone 3/4 for the month. Oh well.

The fact that Bernie's wins still aren't enough makes his campaign more tragic.

Meh save the money for the GE

 

[AntraxSuicide]

Yet someone almost completed that portion of the game during a speed run... Blindfolded.

Rare Replay lets you rewind whenever you want. Only way I'm playing it haha.

He's cutthroat with his pursuit of the best product, but he represents the best of capitalism IMO. SpaceX's CCiCAP/CCDev NASA agreements and Tesla's government loan shows the way forward for the country with regards to private public partnerships.

Yeah, when people talk about collectivist systems, I never hear about how those systems would produce the results that companies like Tesla and SpaceX get. The reason is that they won't produce those results since no one would ever start such companies.

 

[Aaron Strife]

CNN is raking Bernie over the coals right now.

Good.

Clinton News Network.

 

[B-Dubs]

Why make a stink over the "Bernie or bust" stuff?

• Clinton dropped out in June 2008, but the month after that in July 2008, a whopping 54% of Clinton supporters said they wouldn't support Obama in the GE even after he was the presumptive nominee.
• Sanders is still in the race, yet a poll from earlier this month found that Sanders supporters would support Clinton over Trump by a 86-to-10 margin.
• Bernie or bust is already small compared to the anti-Obama hillary movement and Bernie or bust has longer to come around.

Relax



http://www.vox.com/2016/5/4/11593434/bernie-sanders-poll-trump-clinton

Clinton put a lot of work in to help unite the party. Unless you think Bernie's going to put that same work in, there's a little reason to be nervous.

 

[JP_]

Yeah, when people talk about collectivist systems, I never hear about how those systems would produce the results that companies like Tesla and SpaceX get. The reason is that they won't produce those results since no one would ever start such companies.

I'm not anti-capitalist but I mean... NASA was going into space half a century ago. There's a place for socialism and there's a place for capitalism. America has always been mixed and it works.

 

[pigeon]

I'm not anti-capitalist but I mean... NASA was going into space decades ago. There's a place for socialism and there's a place for capitalism. America has always been mixed and it works.

I was actually just going to make this post.

SpaceX is best understood as a response to our government's abdication of its responsibility to engage in low-return research that would be to the collective good.

Actually this is true of a whole lot of extremely successful tech companies -- they're filling a lot of infrastructural roles that should probably be government responsibilities if we had a working government.

 

[Wilsongt]

That actually happened? UGH...

Yeah. Made me nearly want to punch my radio.

 

[metalslimer]

An "impressive" win for Sanders in oregon? Lol

 

[excelsiorlef]

LOL Blitzer just called the 6% win in the demographically advantageous Oregon an impressive win for Sanders.

An "impressive" win for Sanders in oregon? Lol

LOL beaten.

 

[Valhelm]

Yes, Musk, who invested $100 million of his own dollars into three companies, all of which are making the world a better place, is solely concerned with his own well being. Musk, while pushing his workers hard, not only pays them quite well, but creates an environment which is deemed meaningful by the workforce. In fact, SpaceX and Tesla are the top two most meaningful places to work in the US according to employees (https://m.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/499mnm/elon_musk_on_twitter_spacex_and_tesla_rated_most/).

Also, just for the record, Elon and SpaceX have nothing to do with asteroid mining. He has no desire to mine asteroids either.

Even if Elon Musk is some kind of perfect benefactor, Americans shouldn't have to rely on the elite being good people. Because these kinds of businessmen are not elected and have no obligation to help others others than morality, giving them power is an enormous risk.

I think that private innovation is only useful when public innovation isn't an option. If properly democratized, a public alternative is just as efficient as the private sector and much less of a gamble.

 

[BitStyle]

LOL Blitzer just called the 6% win in the demographically advantageous Oregon an impressive win for Sanders.

They'll keep touting these lines to try and imply that there is still some competition left. Gotta keep their ratings up somehow

 

[Abinash117]

How much money did Hillary spend in Oregon ?

 

[excelsiorlef]

LOL what? Now Sanders is talking about bottom up change?

The Bernie Sanders campaign that has run on vote Bernie he'll fix it?

Hilarious.

He was literally running on the idea that downticket races don;t need money, Sanders will just lift them to victory via his name.

 

[Iolo]

How much money did Hillary spend in Oregon ?

$0 to my knowledge.

 

[JP_]

I was actually just going to make this post.

SpaceX is best understood as a response to our government's abdication of its responsibility to engage in low-return research that would be to the collective good.

Actually this is true of a whole lot of extremely successful tech companies -- they're filling a lot of infrastructural roles that should probably be government responsibilities if we had a working government.

Yeah it's infuriating talking to libertarians that pretend the government had no role in the creation of the internet. It's scary to imagine what it might look like if it was created by a private corporation from the start. Certainly don't think we would have the relatively open and free internet it is today if US/CERN hadn't laid that initial groundwork as a public good.

 

[shem935]

How much money did Hillary spend in Oregon ?

0$