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Cipherr

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So we're supposed to change the rules because Bernie mislead his supporters about the process? Come on, son!

Oh absolutely. Doesn't matter that the rules have been in place forever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-rbr0MVtLM&index=16&list=WL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81hCFwsnfJI

I have readied that video for the delusional folks that plan to pretend that the media including Supers, and calling a spade a spade are somehow 'cheating' Bernie. Its always worked this way and it will continue to.

Bernie isn't special, and Bernis has lost. You get NOTHING! GOOD DAY SIR!
 
Vets groups: Checks from Donald Trump dated in the last week

Under pressure to account for money he claimed to raise for veterans, an irritated Donald Trump lambasted the news media Tuesday for pressing the issue and listed charities he said have now received millions of dollars from a fundraiser he held in January.

Phone calls to all 41 of the groups by The Associated Press brought more than two-dozen responses Tuesday. About half reported checks from Trump within the past week, typically dated May 24, the day The Washington Post published a story questioning whether he had distributed all of the money.
 

Amir0x

Banned
What is actually left for habitual liar Bernie Sanders and his campaign? They've got this far stoking the flames of conspiracy about how unfair the DNC is, and they've been tossing shade on the process the entire time. Lately they've been saying no matter how the votes are, they're going to the convention without conceding. When you push it that far and your entire narrative is based on fabrications, you either begin to believe your own shit or you simply lie again and concede when the time comes. It's clear Sanders is starting to be convinced by his staunchest supporters bullshit, and it's becoming increasingly difficult for him to see straight.

So now they're just straight up saying that it's wrong to call the primary season if she clinches the delegates in New Jersey, and that it'd somehow "suppress votes" and not be fair to, well, his constituents. The ones who will be whining a few hours earlier because of the race being accurately called in NJ, of course.

That's what this loser is reduced to. What a pathetic candidate he turned out to be. It's a good thing Sanders didn't get the nomination, because were he nominated he would have set the cause back for true socialists god knows how many decades and we might never see such reforms in my lifetime.
 
Heard a couple things today. Hillary and Sanders' camp continue to have very little behind-the-scenes talk. For reference there was a line of communication between the Obama and Clinton camps and while it frayed/went dark at multiple points, by late May there was some talk about what comes next. This hasn't been the case with the Hillary/Sanders camps for months, outside of some small moments. The joke I heard is "they're not even sending resumes out."

The other thing: the White House has reached out to both camps about some type of event or meeting in June at the White House. There hasn't been a response from Sanders' camp. This could simply be Sanders not wanting to talk about the end until the end is reached...or it could be a sign of what's the come. Nobody wants a messy convention but I think a lot of people realize that this is a very winnable election and Sanders doesn't have much leverage.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Heard a couple things today. Hillary and Sanders' camp continue to have very little behind-the-scenes talk. For reference there was a line of communication between the Obama and Clinton camps and while it frayed/went dark at multiple points, by late May there was some talk about what comes next. This hasn't been the case with the Hillary/Sanders camps for months, outside of some small moments. The joke I heard is "they're not even sending resumes out."

The other thing: the White House has reached out to both camps about some type of event or meeting in June at the White House. There hasn't been a response from Sanders' camp. This could simply be Sanders not wanting to talk about the end until the end is reached...or it could be a sign of what's the come. Nobody wants a messy convention but I think a lot of people realize that this is a very winnable election and Sanders doesn't have much leverage.

The first I've already heard reported in certain places, the second is definitely new though. All I know is this is sure as shit not making me less worried about the end of the primary.
 
The first I've already heard reported in certain places, the second is definitely new though. All I know is this is sure as shit not making me less worried about the end of the primary.

I think the interesting thing about the first report is that it's unusual for the end to arrive without much of any discussion between the two camps. Now is the time for reps from Hillary's camp to be meeting with Sanders' rep, discussing what the plan is for June 7th, what she'll be doing in the days afterwards, maybe wave the White House card, etc. Yet still with only one week left...nothing.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Not shocked at all.

What is actually left for habitual liar Bernie Sanders and his campaign? They've got this far stoking the flames of conspiracy about how unfair the DNC is, and they've been tossing shade on the process the entire time. Lately they've been saying no matter how the votes are, they're going to the convention without conceding. When you push it that far and your entire narrative is based on fabrications, you either begin to believe your own shit or you simply lie again and concede when the time comes. It's clear Sanders is starting to be convinced by his staunchest supporters bullshit, and it's becoming increasingly difficult for him to see straight.

So now they're just straight up saying that it's wrong to call the primary season if she clinches the delegates in New Jersey, and that it'd somehow "suppress votes" and not be fair to, well, his constituents. The ones who will be whining a few hours earlier because of the race being accurately called in NJ, of course.

That's what this loser is reduced to. What a pathetic candidate he turned out to be. It's a good thing Sanders didn't get the nomination, because were he nominated he would have set the cause back for true socialists god knows how many decades and we might never see such reforms in my lifetime.
We're looking at a man who fundamentally doesn't understand what losing entails. If I'm not mistaken, it's been over 40 years since he lost a race, and that was basically a lark, running for governor in Vermont as a Liberty Union candidate.

He has been very accustomed to getting his way, and he's made that abundantly clear to people over the decades. There's no valid or legitimate alternative in his mind.
 

Holmes

Member
I think the interesting thing about the first report is that it's unusual for the end to arrive without much of any discussion between the two camps. Now is the time for reps from Hillary's camp to be meeting with Sanders' rep, discussing what the plan is for June 7th, what she'll be doing in the days afterwards, maybe wave the White House card, etc. Yet still with only one week left...nothing.
Sanders probably thinks he can win California, and by doing so, the nomination will be his.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
I think the interesting thing about the first report is that it's unusual for the end to arrive without much of any discussion between the two camps. Now is the time for reps from Hillary's camp to be meeting with Sanders' rep, discussing what the plan is for June 7th, what she'll be doing in the days afterwards, maybe wave the White House card, etc. Yet still with only one week left...nothing.

Which is why I am a little worried about the aftermath of next week. It's not only that they haven't been talking, which is worrying enough, it's also the fact Bernie's camp has been spreading misinformation about the process for a while now. It's not a combination that inspires confidence.

Sanders probably thinks he can win California, and by doing so, the nomination will be his.

Even in that case it would still be worth it to talk to Clinton's camp about what happens after the race is over, even if it's just in generalities. That way both sides know what's expected of the eventual winner and eventual loser.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I think Sanders thinks he really can flip supers at the convention.

It's so sad, since polling slightly better as a less vetted candidate is not sufficient reason for the Supers to override the popular vote.
 
I think Sanders thinks he really can flip supers at the convention.
Once the delegates from California are accounted for, I'd think Bernie and Hillary's superdelegate totals could switch entirely and the nominee wouldn't change. Maybe Bernie would win it by a hair.
 

Wilsongt

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Why won't the liberal media stop going after trump with vicious facts. It's Libel I tell you

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Trump U playbooks released:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/31/news/companies/trump-university-playbook-documents/index.html

In a section called "identifying buyers," the playbooks instruct Trump team members to sort student profiles according to those who had the most liquid assets (over $35,000) to those who had the least (less than $2,000).

Elsewhere in the playbooks, Trump team members were advised to "close the deal" after having one-on-one sessions with potential students and to push Trump University's most expensive package -- Gold Elite for $34,995 -- when feasible. "If they can afford the gold elite don't allow them to think about doing anything besides the gold elite."

On the other hand:

And some of the material offers a potential counterweight to claims that Trump University's aim was just to sell someone on the highest-priced course. For example, the 2007 sales playbook tells staffers, "you are here to meet the needs of your client, not to push product." And the 2010 version advises that one should "sell for a relationship, not a commission."
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Central Valley needs to stop fucking farming water intensive crops.

The farmers use up so much water. My god. We don't keep our lawn green and we live in Irvine, so it's not like we don't care about appearances. They should probably stop wasting one gallon per single almond or whatever the rate is.

My friends and I were on a road trip last week, and stopped by UC Irvine for the first time (in high school, my first choice for college was UCI, but alas, didn't get in. Always had a soft spot for that place). I knew Irvine was supposed to be a nice place, but damn, y'all are a bunch of rich bastards.
 
The first I've already heard reported in certain places, the second is definitely new though. All I know is this is sure as shit not making me less worried about the end of the primary.

Papa Obama will protect us. A stern glare and a strong talking to and Sanders will fall in line.

...I hope.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Most places immediately surrounding UCs are pretty nice though.
Hell a ton of CSUs have really fucking nice surroundings too.

True (and I'm actually next to and enrolled in CSU Northridge), but the entire city of Irvine is insane. You'll have a school like UC Riverside where the only good spot in that wasteland is the immediate surrounding area of the campus.
 
The first I've already heard reported in certain places, the second is definitely new though. All I know is this is sure as shit not making me less worried about the end of the primary.

Bernie is going to walk in to the White House and go into the designated conference room to find not Obama, not Hillary, but Barney Frank sitting at the table.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Today I learned that there's someone out there whose first pick is UC Irvine.


I joke. That was mean.

Hey, Irvine's a good school! I mean, it's boring as hell, sure. But it's a good school! :mad:

edit: Also, my preference might have been semi-colored by the fact that it was probably the best UC I could get into with my GPA at the time.
 
Thought this was interesting (via dailykos; )

In a final plea to undeclared Democratic superdelegates, Sen. Hillary Clinton points to her lead in the popular vote, some recent polling showing her strength against John McCain, and surveys showing that voters believe she is ready to serve as commander in chief.

In a letter, sent Tuesday, and in an extensive memo, sent today, Clinton frames the choice for superdelegates as one between a candidate who has won more delegates in caucuses and a candidate who has won more delegates in primaries and has won the popular vote.

"Recent polls and election results show a clear trend: I am ahead in states that have been critical to victory in the past two elections," she writes. In the memo, she notes that, of the 20 toughest districts for freshman House Democrats -- districts won by President Bush in 2004 -- Clinton won 16 of them. Clinton, the memo argues, has won 350 more counties than Obama and that she is responsible for huge turnout increases among women and Latinos.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ons-closing-argument-to-superdelegates/53314/




I don't think Bernie can make them change their minds. I think a part of it is that he has been calling out those 400 supers before the election and super delegates in general. It just doesn't give him a lot of leverage here. Had he not made such comments it could just be seen as a tactical move within the rules, but it feels like a cheap knee jerk reaction.

Wonder how they are gonna do it. Will he just yell out "BANKRUPTCY" in a mic, or will they heckle, or will they throw him down some stairs?
 

ampere

Member

"It would be a horrible injustice," said DeAnn McEwen, 64, a nurse who attended Tuesday's event. "It would be like me saying: Okay, you're going into the ER for cancer surgery. We're going to put you through this, but we're not going to be able to get it out."

Paging the bad analogy police, we've found the worst one ever.

Kristol's pick

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Holy shit. That sounds like what the preacher would say at the church I went to in my early teens
 

Diablos

Member
Heard a couple things today. Hillary and Sanders' camp continue to have very little behind-the-scenes talk. For reference there was a line of communication between the Obama and Clinton camps and while it frayed/went dark at multiple points, by late May there was some talk about what comes next. This hasn't been the case with the Hillary/Sanders camps for months, outside of some small moments. The joke I heard is "they're not even sending resumes out."

The other thing: the White House has reached out to both camps about some type of event or meeting in June at the White House. There hasn't been a response from Sanders' camp. This could simply be Sanders not wanting to talk about the end until the end is reached...or it could be a sign of what's the come. Nobody wants a messy convention but I think a lot of people realize that this is a very winnable election and Sanders doesn't have much leverage.
Where did you hear the second thing? That's fucking terrifying.
 

studyguy

Member
The response to the numbers posted by 538 always get me. Like it's just aggregates of polls, who are you even mad at?

Also had no idea San Luis Obispo county was so white. That county is pretty arid looking otherwise compared to the next counties over and has the lowest population around the area, the neighboring counties have almost double the population.
 

Iolo

Member
I think the interesting thing about the first report is that it's unusual for the end to arrive without much of any discussion between the two camps. Now is the time for reps from Hillary's camp to be meeting with Sanders' rep, discussing what the plan is for June 7th, what she'll be doing in the days afterwards, maybe wave the White House card, etc. Yet still with only one week left...nothing.

You mean two weeks left. DC votes on the 14th.
 

hawk2025

Member
Hey, Irvine's a good school! I mean, it's boring as hell, sure. But it's a good school! :mad:

edit: Also, my preference might have been semi-colored by the fact that it was probably the best UC I could get into with my GPA at the time.

It is, absolutely!

I'm just joking because everyone always lists Cal and maybe UCLA at the top, so I thought it was kind of funny :p
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Thought this was interesting (via dailykos; )



http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ons-closing-argument-to-superdelegates/53314/




I don't think Bernie can make them change their minds. I think a part of it is that he has been calling out those 400 supers before the election and super delegates in general. It just doesn't give him a lot of leverage here. Had he not made such comments it could just be seen as a tactical move within the rules, but it feels like a cheap knee jerk reaction.

Wonder how they are gonna do it. Will he just yell out "BANKRUPTCY" in a mic, or will they heckle, or will they throw him down some stairs?

Yeah, but the thing is, actual votes aren't as important as exit polls in states where Bernie didn't perform as well as expected.
 
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