Isn't the Hispanic vote in CA being reported closer to 60-40 Clinton? Like Silver said on Twitter, he big news from yesterday for me was that Clinton's margins with Hispanic voters were huge and largely way above what the polling was showing. This means that 1) Hispanics are still difficult to poll accurately, and 2) Hispanics really seem to be behind Clinton.
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User 463088
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Stupid low information (on) Hispanics.
whyamihere
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Unless it's an usually bad year, it's hard to imagine that, if Feinstein retires in 2018, a Republican makes it to the general election.
No, not even close. Look at Imperial, Riverside, LA, San Diego, Fresno and the rest of Central Valley.
User 463088
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Man, my sarcasm game is shit today.
Jack The Nipper
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I love the rubio quote so much
Sarcasm was a mistake, it's nothing but trash.
I noticed a lot of news articles today that mentioned how Bernie refused to acknowledge Hillary's historic victory.
Also seen some Bernie surrogates on Twitter (e.g. Mark Ruffalo) congratulating her. Some of his supers (Grijalva, Merkley) are also stressing unity. They know the writing is on the wall, at least, and are classy about it.
I noticed a lot of news articles today that mentioned how Bernie refused to acknowledge Hillary's historic victory.
Also seen some Bernie surrogates on Twitter (e.g. Mark Ruffalo) congratulating her. Some of his supers (Grijalva, Merkley) are also stressing unity. They know the writing is on the wall, at least, and are classy about it.
googleplex
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What did he say?
Well to be fair, I do think Sanders won the latino vote in Illinois.
The Trump surrogate was saying that Trump never said Judge Curiel's heritage had anything to do with his impartiality as a judge. She was also saying that Trump doesn't need anyone in the GOP who opposes him. Kate called her out on on the first remark with a direct quote and the Trump surrogate decided to continue to live in lala land. Surrogate made the remark that Trump is a unifier and he wants everyone's support. Kate said that contradicted her previous remark, but the Trump supporter continued to live in lala land. Trump supporter starts saying Kate is not being honest, Kate gets pissed and kills the segment.
User 463088
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Ya, shouldn't have included that one...
But, all kidding aside, what the hell happened in NM!?
RastaMentality
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Queen Kamala got 2 million votes. I didn't know so many people voted in the senate elections lol. She might end up with around the same amount of votes as Hillary.
Box of Kittens
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He won nearly every Hispanic plurality ward in Chicago, typically by big margins. My reading is that tying Hillary to Rahm was really effective.
Oh god, the headlines of articles people are posting on FB.
"How superdelegates ROBBED 11 million voters of their vote"
"Perfect End to Democratic Primary: Anonymous Super-Delegates Declare Winner Through Media"
"'The Struggle Continues': Sanders Refuses to Bend the Knee to Establishment"
"How superdelegates ROBBED 11 million voters of their vote"
"Perfect End to Democratic Primary: Anonymous Super-Delegates Declare Winner Through Media"
"'The Struggle Continues': Sanders Refuses to Bend the Knee to Establishment"
The thing is there are a decent amount of Hillary supporters, but they've all been super quiet once things turned ugly a few months ago because of how rabid the Sanders supporters are.
This is the most annoying one, like their votes mattered more
Do you have a proper link? The ones I found on youtube were messy, skipping parts, etc. Or,is there a torrent?? For posterity.
Truth. Every one of my Bernie friends will absolutely jump on any Hillary supporter with the same talking points spouted over and over again, without consideration for whether or not it's true. A Bernie FB page or website said it, so it must be true, seems to be the consensus in my circle of bros. I think most Hillary supporters just didn't want to get involved in the online chatter and instead, went outside to vote.
Aaron Strife
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So California's results were almost a direct mirror of the national popular vote between Hillary and Bernie.
Still can't believe how many people were fucking delusional enough to think "oh yeah, Bernie can win 80% of the vote there np"
Still can't believe how many people were fucking delusional enough to think "oh yeah, Bernie can win 80% of the vote there np"
He also had Chuy Garcia, who ran against Rahm, really campaigning hard for him.
Yup. I've stayed neutral on the Democratic side to avoid stupid shit. Finally posted my support and was immediately jumped by a Johnson supporter. So I had to smack that down. God, I remember when I was an 18 year old white male. Otherwise, I only really have two people that seem to be rabid Sanders supporters. Then again, I work in state government and the people I know are by and large rational, sane adults.
Box of Kittens
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That one was on my feed too. Fuck Glenn Greenwald.
AntraxSuicide
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I hold that any book or post-op of this primary has to include this moment. If the GOP primary was a NASCAR race, then Trump was in the lead by a bit. This new guy Rubio starts gaining a lot of ground, and (maybe it was coordinated with Trump over the headset or it was Christie just doing him a solid) then Christie just puts Rubio in the wall. The resulting pile-up slowed other people down in the fight for second so that Trump took a commanding lead.
I've also always argued this. Trump was going to be like the Huckster or Carson, but he wouldn't be selling books to church groups, he'd be doing it for a yuuuuge TV spectacle. The problem is he was too good and ended up winning. He wants off the ride, but can't do it. If the GOP stole the nomination from him, he'd keep all of that popularity and wouldn't lose to Hillary. I bet he wishes for it every night.
But people overwhelmingly Googled Bernie more than Hillary
I think he actually won the "low info" blue counties in that pic.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Congrats to Tyler on correctly calling 4 out of 6 winners last night, with as little as a 6-point miss in New Mexico! (Wrong winner though. Also the 34-point miss in SD.. and the 22-point miss in MT. And the 11-point miss in NJ.)
Congratulations Hillary on such a historic moment.
I voted for Sanders in the NY democratic primary because I really liked what Sanders has been preaching. I hadn't ever seen myself going out there and knocking on doors, going to rally, and being politically active. At a time in my life where I was feeling especially down on my luck, he gave me a cause that I was passionate about and fighted for. I am really grateful that in my lifetime I was going out there and supporting a candidate who really felt like they were speaking directly to me.
At first, I was drinking the kool-aid how it was rigged against him, fraud, superdelegates etc. As the time went on and he didn't drop out and get behind Hillary for the general election, he basically threw the monopoly board off the table and my view of him really started to sink. It's like he didnt care that what he was doing was trying to bring Hillary down with him. Eventually, I stopped telling people I supported Sanders and stopped defending him because his campaign turned to a complete mess. I didn't want to back a sore loser.
Eight years ago I originally wanted to vote for Hillary. I thought she was a really inspiring woman and I wanted a woman as president of the US. When she dropped it, I was fullt behind Obama. I couldn't vote, though.
This November I will proudly vote for Hillary Clinton. She's not perfect. She needs to rethink some of her policies, like legalizing marijuana (no, not just because I like getting high but because it's just another way to put black men behind bars). I'd also really like single payer healthcare, but it doesn't seem like its plasuble at the moment. I viewed Obama fairly positively and I will be happy to see her continue Obama's legacy. One thing though, I don't care about the email thing. But why did she have her own email server in her house unprotected? As a techie guy, I just think it was really dumb. If I was a politician you'd bet I'd make sure I was doing everything by the book because my life is so public.
Nevertheless,
#ImWitHer
I voted for Sanders in the NY democratic primary because I really liked what Sanders has been preaching. I hadn't ever seen myself going out there and knocking on doors, going to rally, and being politically active. At a time in my life where I was feeling especially down on my luck, he gave me a cause that I was passionate about and fighted for. I am really grateful that in my lifetime I was going out there and supporting a candidate who really felt like they were speaking directly to me.
At first, I was drinking the kool-aid how it was rigged against him, fraud, superdelegates etc. As the time went on and he didn't drop out and get behind Hillary for the general election, he basically threw the monopoly board off the table and my view of him really started to sink. It's like he didnt care that what he was doing was trying to bring Hillary down with him. Eventually, I stopped telling people I supported Sanders and stopped defending him because his campaign turned to a complete mess. I didn't want to back a sore loser.
Eight years ago I originally wanted to vote for Hillary. I thought she was a really inspiring woman and I wanted a woman as president of the US. When she dropped it, I was fullt behind Obama. I couldn't vote, though.
This November I will proudly vote for Hillary Clinton. She's not perfect. She needs to rethink some of her policies, like legalizing marijuana (no, not just because I like getting high but because it's just another way to put black men behind bars). I'd also really like single payer healthcare, but it doesn't seem like its plasuble at the moment. I viewed Obama fairly positively and I will be happy to see her continue Obama's legacy. One thing though, I don't care about the email thing. But why did she have her own email server in her house unprotected? As a techie guy, I just think it was really dumb. If I was a politician you'd bet I'd make sure I was doing everything by the book because my life is so public.
Nevertheless,
#ImWitHer
But people overwhelmingly Googled Bernie more than Hillary.
If this mattered, the primary map would have looked like the 1984 electoral map, without Minnesota going to Hillary. I still remember the Facebook, Twitter, and Google Search trends during the debates, lol.
nature boy
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Speaking of which, I posted on social media that I'm excited that we are having the first female Presidential nominee in history and someone just has to comment on it "she's not a good candidate. Voting third party." Someone else saying "it isn't over until July." Like.. let me be excited. I didn't post to have a discussion. I didn't post to have an argument. I just posted a celebration for having the first female Presidential nominee in history. Why is this such a bad thing to them? I don't do this to their posts when people talk about Bernie..
/endrant
I don't understand how "ensuring our policies get enacted is more important than disavowing a racist" is a winning strategy. I'd think either embracing Trump or running away from him would be more beneficial.
Joe Shlabotnik
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People have been saying this forever, and I agree that I don't think he entered this seriously, and that he doesn't want to campaign anymore.
BUT I do think HE thinks he can be President, and that he wants to be President.
Because I think his vision of Presidenting is leaving literally all of the wonky "knowledge" stuff to aides and cabinet members and being presented with a menu of this-or-that executive gut decisions he can rattle off each morning, then hit the phone for some wheelin and dealin with international bigwigs and knock off around noon.
Still one of the best things Ive ever seen on tv.
Got a link?
Veritigo_X
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Damn, I was really hoping that was the new HA Goodman article.
Might have been posted.
https://twitter.com/GMA/status/740502224200044545
WATCH: @HillaryClinton gets emotional as she looks out over cheering crowd before her speech with @DavidMuir.
https://twitter.com/GMA/status/740502224200044545
WATCH: @HillaryClinton gets emotional as she looks out over cheering crowd before her speech with @DavidMuir.
Future Foundation
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Ugh, now people think the AP calling the race early had something to do with Bernie losing. I don't know why they care - you didn't believe it anyway!
excelsiorlef
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11 million people did vote just that 15 millin others voted for Clinton... ooops... sorry stolen vote narrative you have no grounds!
Nah. It may well have started as him showing that no good media that he is too running for president. But he wants to win at this point. He's just terrible at it.
Thequietone
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My god the salt today. "I thought I was voting between good versus evil this year but I'm just getting a choice of my position on the human centipede."
I'm waiting until at least the convention before I even attempt to engage these people.
I'm waiting until at least the convention before I even attempt to engage these people.
QuiteWhittle
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How can he be the nominee when he needs corrupt DNC superdelegates to vote for him? Even if 450k votes materialize out of thin air to win California?
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