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"Homosexuality is a chosen behavior that is contrary to the fundamental unchanging truths that has been ordained by God in the Bible, recognized by our nations founders, and shared by the majority of Texans."
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Even putting aside the grammar fuckery, how are they still on this "homosexuality is a choice" bullshit? I know anti-empiricism is the cornerstone of the GOP, but come ooooooooooooooooooon.
 
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gcubed said:
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Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
It is, of course, not bathrooms that are at issue to them, but the idea of change to notions of sex and gender that transgender acceptance supposedly represents (in tandem with the many other challenges to such things that have emerged in recent years). Not really that hard to understand, even if you don't agree with it, I don't think, given that, a decade ago (maybe even now, I'm not sure what the numbers are), the vast majority of people - even just in the U.S., let alone the wider world - would have scoffed at the notion that a biological male could be a woman. It's about preserving an understanding that currently exists that is seen as superior, for one reason or another, to a new perspective that threatens to displace it. Y'know, conservatism.
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I'm not saying that I'm shocked they're anti-transgender equality. I fully expect that. Where I am surprised is that the cross they'ved decided to die on is the bathroom issue. I can think of a ton of other ways that would cause way more harm than this juvenile shit.
 
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I'm not saying that I'm shocked they're anti-transgender equality. I fully expect that. Where I am surprised is that the cross they'ved decided to die on is the bathroom issue. I can think of a ton of other ways that would cause way more harm than this juvenile shit.
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I'm not. I knew as soon as marriage equality passed they were going to try everything they possibly could. The religious freedom laws have had a huge backlash, so it seems like they have moved on to transgender issues which I think they presumed less people would care about. Luckily, the Obama administration was having none of that bs.
 
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metalslimer said:
I'm not. I knew as soon as marriage equality passed they were going to try everything they possibly could. The religious freedom laws have had a huge backlash, so it seems like they have moved on to transgender issues which I think they presumed less people would care about. Luckily, the Obama administration was having none of that bs.
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But what I'm confused about is that they picked a subject that made them look as ridiculous as bathrooms. They could have gone with more technical bullshit like requiring more counseling before transitioning or trying to limit the supply of hormones. These things would have been terrible, but they wouldn't have been ridiculous looking to voters.

Appointing yourself "bathroom police" looks ridiculous.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
But what I'm confused about is that they picked a subject that made them look as ridiculous as bathrooms. They could have gone with more technical bullshit like requiring more counseling before transitioning or trying to limit the supply of hormones. These things would have been terrible, but they wouldn't have been ridiculous looking to voters.

Appointing yourself "bathroom police" looks ridiculous.
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This is what I'm getting at. I fully expected the religious freedom shit. They could have made it harder to transition. They could have passed rules making it harder for parents to allow their younger kids to transition. Instead, they picked the most pathetic looking thing in the entire world. They became the bathroom police.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
But what I'm confused about is that they picked a subject that made them look as ridiculous as bathrooms. They could have gone with more technical bullshit like requiring more counseling before transitioning or trying to limit the supply of hormones. These things would have been terrible, but they wouldn't have been ridiculous looking to voters.

Appointing yourself "bathroom police" looks ridiculous.
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I may be in tinfoil territory but I think the GOP saw stuff like Prob 8 in Cali where there was a larger religious minority vote for banning gay marriage and are trying to apply that to the GE. If this was a push to get the standard religious demo they would be pushing abortion harder not this. They want to appeal to the deeply religious black folk and Hispanic folk to stray from the Dems in Nov.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19

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I may be in tinfoil territory but I think the GOP saw stuff like Prob 8 in Cali where there was a larger religious minority vote for banning gay marriage and are trying to apply that to the GE. If this was a push to get the standard religious demo they would be pushing abortion harder not this. They want to appeal to the deeply religious black folk and Hispanic folk to stray from the Dems in Nov.
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.... But why bathrooms?

That's the whole question. The strategy of trying to bully transgender individuals by appointing yourself bathroom police is ridiculous looking.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
But what I'm confused about is that they picked a subject that made them look as ridiculous as bathrooms. They could have gone with more technical bullshit like requiring more counseling before transitioning or trying to limit the supply of hormones. These things would have been terrible, but they wouldn't have been ridiculous looking to voters.

Appointing yourself "bathroom police" looks ridiculous.
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Voters would probably not have cared very much about those other things. Bathrooms, on the other hand, are THE most prevalent site of sex-/gender-based segregation, and people absolutely do care about them. Travel outside of the largely/enforcedly-liberal NeoGAF, and the view that trans people are basically men/women trying to use the women's/men's room is exceedingly common, probably even the majority view, particularly among people over the age of 40 or so (a.k.a. VOTERS). One thing Republicans know MUCH better than Democrats is that it's visceral emotion that sways voters. Trump is a dumpster fire, so try and use emotional social shit to remind people how "kooky" the Democrats are.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19

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Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
Voters would probably not have cared very much about those other things. Bathrooms, on the other hand, are THE most prevalent site of sex-/gender-based segregation. One thing Republicans know MUCH better than Democrats is that it's visceral emotion that sways voters.
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But the only visceral reactions to this comes in the form of ridicule.

Not even Donald Trump fans cared about Ted Cruz warning that transgender women are raping your daughter in a bathroom at this very moment and everywhere outside of the GOP is mocking this stuff.

Trying to keep this up after Cruz couldn't even get Trump voters (whose top concern is whether or not they can call Obama the n-word) on-board is just dumb.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
But the only visceral reactions to this comes in the form of ridicule.

Not even Donald Trump fans cared about Ted Cruz warning that transgender women are raping your daughter in a bathroom at this very moment and everywhere outside of the GOP is mocking this stuff.

Trying to keep this up after Cruz couldn't even get Trump voters (whose top concern is whether or not they can call Obama the n-word) on-board is just dumb.
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I mean, I've seen comments all over the place to the effect of how silly Dems are for trying to convince people that men are women, and vice versa. There certainly is a base, one that probably even cuts across party lines, that responds to stuff like this, even if it doesn't get a lot of play in the mainstream media, specifically.
 
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eBay Huckster said:
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Every week, we post a state of the race... All polls <60 days. Trump moved AZ and OH to neutral. Clinton still wins.
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Good, good.

On another note:

Donald Trump in 2006: I 'sort of hope' real estate market tanks

Two years before the housing market collapsed in 2008 and millions of Americans lost their homes, Donald Trump said he was hoping for a crash.

"I sort of hope that happens because then people like me would go in and buy," Trump said in a 2006 audiobook from Trump University, answering a question about "gloomy predictions that the real estate market is heading for a spectacular crash."

The U.S. housing bubble burst two years later, triggering the stock market crash of 2008 that plunged the U.S. economy into a deep recession, leaving millions of Americans unemployed.

Trump was speaking with Jon Ward, a marketing consultant who "masterminded all the initial education programs for Trump University," according to his website. The audiobook is available on iTunes.

"If there is a bubble burst, as they call it, you know you can make a lot of money," Trump said in the 2006 audio book, "How to Build a Fortune." "If you're in a good cash position -- which I'm in a good cash position today -- then people like me would go in and buy like crazy."

The Trump campaign did not respond to requests for comment.
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There's so much juicy opposition research to use against Trump in the general.
 
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So I see matt bruenig is turning out to be a horrible human too.

All these progressive sure do turn out to be assholes when you say hey maybe white people don't hold the keys to progressivism and other people (women and minorities that don't agree with them) might have opinions

His own blog called him out.
 
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Wait, what?

H. A. Goodman &#8207;@HAGOODMANAUTHOR 2h2 hours ago

How many times have you experienced online harrassment and threats from Hillary Clinton supporters? If so, you are owed an apology from HRC
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H. A. Goodman &#8207;@HAGOODMANAUTHOR 2h2 hours ago

Democrats must rally around Bernie Sanders, because his supporters will not back Clinton, and FBI will sink her 3.9 pt lead over Trump.
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H. A. Goodman &#8207;@HAGOODMANAUTHOR 2h2 hours ago

Dear entitled progressive writers for HRC, BERNIE SUPPORTERS ARE OWED AN APOLOGY for the $1 million HRC paid online trolls to intimidate
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H. A. Goodman &#8207;@HAGOODMANAUTHOR 2h2 hours ago

NOTE TO CLUELESS DEM PUNDITS: Clinton beats Trump by 3.9 pts compared to BERNIE'S 11.6 pts, WITHOUT RISK OF INDICTMENTS. You concede, not us


How many of you have ever felt personally victimized by Hillary Clinton?

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PoliGAF should do watch events where we watch politics-related movies/tv shows and live talk in the discord chat. (I only say this since Weiner's about to release)

Could be a cool idea.
 
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I was listening to Fox News today because I hate myself and I got to thinking... They always harp on Obama not saying "Radical islamic terrorist" or all of that jazz. They want him to call terrorists terrorists.

Then... Let's say after the next mass shooting happens that is caused by a white guy with a gun going mental, and he goes on record and calls it domestic terrorism, how would these people respond to that? Can it only be classified as terrorism if a brown person does it?
 
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chiym1992 said:
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BREAKING: OK lawmakers introduce anti-trans bill and declare state of emergency over trans bathroom use.
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Mary Fallin for Trump's VP. Between this and the abortion bill alone, her approval of these laws is going to make her toxic to everyone not GOP in the general.
 
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B-Dubs said:
It's why you never drink the kool aid.
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I'd like to say I never would, but so far I've supported and voted for;

Kerry, Obama, and Hillary.

Probably my personality type would prevent me from going that deep, but I can't say for sure until i'm presented with the opportunity.
 
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It is kind of fascinating, how after the GOP lost on all the major issues on the LGBT matters over the last decade or so, their arguments have reduced to birthday cakes and bathrooms

Seriously thats all we here about regarding it politically now. Is some anti-gay cake maker or bathroom stall arguments.

It is almost mindblowing how petty it this has gotten politically. They just cannot take an L. No matter what.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19

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How many exit polls have actually gone into fine enough detail to get data from young black voters?

edit: Looks like it was done over 20 states.

But still, young white voters being +60 Bernie while young black voters are +3 Bernie and older black voters are +60 Hillary shows, uhh, some racial differences in candidate preferences.
 
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Wilsongt said:
Wait, what?

H. A. Goodman &#8207;@HAGOODMANAUTHOR 2h2 hours ago

How many times have you experienced online harrassment and threats from Hillary Clinton supporters? If so, you are owed an apology from HRC
40 retweets 91 likes
H. A. Goodman &#8207;@HAGOODMANAUTHOR 2h2 hours ago

Democrats must rally around Bernie Sanders, because his supporters will not back Clinton, and FBI will sink her 3.9 pt lead over Trump.
38 retweets 68 likes
H. A. Goodman &#8207;@HAGOODMANAUTHOR 2h2 hours ago

Dear entitled progressive writers for HRC, BERNIE SUPPORTERS ARE OWED AN APOLOGY for the $1 million HRC paid online trolls to intimidate
47 retweets 82 likes
H. A. Goodman &#8207;@HAGOODMANAUTHOR 2h2 hours ago

NOTE TO CLUELESS DEM PUNDITS: Clinton beats Trump by 3.9 pts compared to BERNIE'S 11.6 pts, WITHOUT RISK OF INDICTMENTS. You concede, not us


How many of you have ever felt personally victimized by Hillary Clinton?
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I don't see anything surprising here. H. A. Goodman has *never* argued the issues and positions. He's just HILLARY IS GOING TO GUANTANAMO SO WE MUST PICK BERNIE.
 
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