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[ampere]

That policy statement about chronic pain is about as unscientific as Hillary's position on marijuana.

She supports medical use at least

I do very much hope she "evolves" on this issue. I had been holding out hope that Obama would try an executive order decriminalizing marijuana, but I'm not sure if that's really something he can do.

 

[studyguy]

https://shiksappeal.wordpress.com/2016/05/18/berned-by-bernie-sanders/

I know this is anecdotal but it is a very interesting read from someone who was very supportive of Bernie and transitioned to queen based on his shit campaign team.

Also the part what the only on the record thing was Bernie's belief that people with chronic pain should focus on yoga and meditation is fucking bullshit
As someone who lives wiith chronic eye pain (you know how it feels to have a hair in your eyes? Welcome to my world 24 hours a day....) I'd cut off my left arm to be pain free for a week. get out of here with that bullshit

One would hope that this is just an example of the Bernie campaign being wildly unprepared for the questions asked during a national campaign because having homeopathic bullshit riding with the campaign as an actual solution is too crazy to believe. Either way it's an awful look for Sanders and crew jeez.

 

[User 463088]

I'd prefer to see her support legalization of pot. I mean, it's not something I do

Spoiler

often

but it's one of those things that I just don't give a shit if someone else wants to do, you know? Knock yourself out.

I get way more rekt with pineapple vodka than most people do on a marijuana.

 

[Holmes]

Shaun King is leaving the Democratic Party.

 

[nature boy]

Hildawg +2 in Florida.

 

[Tubie]

https://shiksappeal.wordpress.com/2016/05/18/berned-by-bernie-sanders/

I know this is anecdotal but it is a very interesting read from someone who was very supportive of Bernie and transitioned to queen based on his shit campaign team.

Also the part what the only on the record thing was Bernie's belief that people with chronic pain should focus on yoga and meditation is fucking bullshit
As someone who lives wiith chronic eye pain (you know how it feels to have a hair in your eyes? Welcome to my world 24 hours a day....) I'd cut off my left arm to be pain free for a week. get out of here with that bullshit

That was a great read, the anti science shit is just horrible.

I think a lot of people had or are having a similar experience with Bernie right now. I loved his general message when this thing started and even favored him over Hillary. But over the course of this primary he has revealed himself to be nothing more than an ideologue with very limited understanding of the things he campaigns on or even how to achieve them.

My opinion of him has degraded to the point that I don't even want him in the Senate and hope he either retires within 1 or 2 terms or the DNC finds a candidate that can challenge him in Vermont.

 

[Avon Barksdale]

The only Shaun King we acknowledge is the former Buccaneers quarterback.

 

[DataStream]

Bernie supporters have become so solipsistic. I need a drink.

 

[Cesare Borgia]

Matt Bruenig got fired from Demos for being an asshole to Joan Walsh and Neera Tanden on Twitter! Good riddance.

That's not why he was fired. We'll revisit this in late November or December.

 

[B-Dubs]

That's not why he was fired. We'll revisit this in late November or December.

Do you know something we don't know? Because from what they said he was fired for being an asshole on twitter.

 

[The Technomancer]

https://shiksappeal.wordpress.com/2016/05/18/berned-by-bernie-sanders/

I know this is anecdotal but it is a very interesting read from someone who was very supportive of Bernie and transitioned to queen based on his shit campaign team.

Also the part what the only on the record thing was Bernie's belief that people with chronic pain should focus on yoga and meditation is fucking bullshit
As someone who lives wiith chronic eye pain (you know how it feels to have a hair in your eyes? Welcome to my world 24 hours a day....) I'd cut off my left arm to be pain free for a week. get out of here with that bullshit

Goddamn that is a hell of a story

 

[Retromelon]

no overlap

 

[The Technomancer]

One would hope that this is just an example of the Bernie campaign being wildly unprepared for the questions asked during a national campaign because having homeopathic bullshit riding with the campaign as an actual solution is too crazy to believe. Either way it's an awful look for Sanders and crew jeez.

Regardless, the difference in response she discusses between the two campaigns speaks volumes in my eyes.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Again, the DNC is not solely responsible for the primary schedule. A lot of that is done at the state level too. California switched back to June in 2011. It was Assembly Bill No. 80.

Yeah a lot of it is up to the state legislature and parties. It's why you see states getting their delegates stripped every so often when they do something too out of line with the national party's intentions.

 

[sc0la]

no overlap

They could be overlapping offscreen in pacman wrap zone though. Inconclusive.

 

[DataStream]

She supports medical use at least

I do very much hope she "evolves" on this issue. I had been holding out hope that Obama would try an executive order decriminalizing marijuana, but I'm not sure if that's really something he can do.

I thought for sure that would have been a key part of the Dem platform this election cycle. Seems like a lost opportunity given more and more states are going to move to legalization.

 

[Valhelm]

She supports medical use at least

I do very much hope she "evolves" on this issue. I had been holding out hope that Obama would try an executive order decriminalizing marijuana, but I'm not sure if that's really something he can do.

I'm sure she will. While I've sometimes been wary of Hillary's flexibility, she's incredibly sensitive to the public opinion of the left.

 

[Iolo]

Again, the DNC is not solely responsible for the primary schedule. A lot of that is done at the state level too. California switched back to June in 2011. It was Assembly Bill No. 80.

thanks Bill

 

[jack_package_200]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/280763-ron-paul-i-feel-kinship-with-sanders

Ron Paul: I feel 'kinship' with Sanders

Former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) said he feels a “kinship” with Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders, noting that the two occasionally agree on some policies and oppose favors to the corporate world.

“We’re both against corporatism. We’re both against the special benefits to big business,” Paul said in an interview on Politicking with Larry King.

“His answer to that wouldn’t always be the same. Mine would always drift to the free markets. His would drift to ‘well we need more government to redistribute wealth,’ but we could both attack subsidies to business or the military industrial complex,” he continued. “In that sense, there is a kinship."

Explains so much

 

[pigeon]

no overlap

.

 

[Holmes]

 

[jack_package_200]

rekt

 

[pigeon]

Also, guys,

https://support.office.com/en-us/ar...gram-d746a2ce-ed61-47a7-93fe-7c101940839d#bm4

 

[hawk2025]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/280763-ron-paul-i-feel-kinship-with-sanders

Ron Paul: I feel 'kinship' with Sanders



Explains so much

Their approach to policy is indeed very similar.

The main difference is that Ron Paul is super wrong, and Bernie is just mostly kinda-wrong-but-aiming-in-the-right-direction.

 

[Holmes]

I couldn't even commit enough to correctly spell retromelon's username.

 

[Iolo]

Also, guys,

https://support.office.com/en-us/ar...gram-d746a2ce-ed61-47a7-93fe-7c101940839d#bm4

What is this establishment software?

 

[sc0la]

What is this establishment software?

I know right?

.

 

[Drek]

Bernie just sits high up his moral perch and thinks hes know what's best. Hillary has put in a lot of work and has traveled all over the world. There's depth to her understanding of how thing works at home and abroad. Bernie has been cooped in a very white state for most of his political career.

In 1991 Barney Frank said this about Bernie Sanders:
“Bernie alienates his natural allies,” Frank said. “His holier-than-thou attitude—saying in a very loud voice he is smarter than everyone else and purer than everyone else—really undercuts his effectiveness.”

In 25 years since Bernie Sanders appears to have done absolutely nothing to change Barney Frank's mind.

 

[RastaMentality]

I wonder if Cruz had won instead of Trump, there would've been more instant coalescing around him (causing him to be up in the polls).

 

[B-Dubs]

So this poped up on my facebook wall and pretty much says a lot of what I've been saying for a while in the OT. Almost tempted to make a thread.

The question as to why many Millennials —and millennial feminists in particular— seem to have turned their backs on Hillary Clinton has been explored at length this primary season. The Daily Beast, Huffington Post, and Los Angeles Times have all come to varying conclusions: Hillary is “not feminist enough,” Hillary is “part of the establishment,” and Bernie’s youthful idealism is more appealing than Hillary’s less sexy pragmatism.

All of these factors undoubtedly play a large role in the overall negative perception some Millennials have of Hillary Clinton, but the more obvious answer is simply this: we Millennials are coming to know Hillary Clinton after 20 years of relentless personal and political attacks.

https://thevoidist.com/the-1996-article-every-millennial-should-read-d9350b10e568#.v44ha64me

 

[Poodlestrike]

Guys, am I responsible for VennDiagramGate?

Consider, this morning, at 8 AM EST:

This is sort of like a venn diagram with no overlap.

So just a bunch of circles.

Or balls.

W/e.

An hour and a half later? The tweet.

 

[Eusis]

One would hope that this is just an example of the Bernie campaign being wildly unprepared for the questions asked during a national campaign because having homeopathic bullshit riding with the campaign as an actual solution is too crazy to believe. Either way it's an awful look for Sanders and crew jeez.

It's definitely one of the more souring things I've seen. My mom deals with too much chronic pain for that to be an issue I can turn a blind eye to, and she wants to at least sign the petition for him to change his mind.

 

[kirblar]

So this poped up on my facebook wall and pretty much says a lot of what I've been saying for a while in the OT. Almost tempted to make a thread.



https://thevoidist.com/the-1996-article-every-millennial-should-read-d9350b10e568#.v44ha64me

Are you the guy who was posting Breitbart earlier?

 

[B-Dubs]

Are you the guy who was posting Breitbart earlier?

No. Why would I post that trash? Why ask?

That's a fairly positive article that makes the argument that a big reason millennials don't like Hillary is that they've come to know her after a 24 year smear campaign has done it's work.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Shaun King is leaving the Democratic Party.

To go where?
Lmao

 

[Cybit]

She supports medical use at least

I do very much hope she "evolves" on this issue. I had been holding out hope that Obama would try an executive order decriminalizing marijuana, but I'm not sure if that's really something he can do.

Once it gets popular to support it without accruing political risk, she'll evolve, don't worry. (or she gets a second term and completely stops giving a crap)

I do not believe you can EO away the illegality of marijuana - I believe Obama did the most he could basically saying "wink wink it's a low priority for us to prosecute". But there is a list or something they have to remove it from

Shaun King is leaving the Democratic Party.

I'm pretty happy about this.

The only Shaun King we acknowledge is the former Buccaneers quarterback.

We see you NFL-GAF?

 

[B-Dubs]

Once it gets popular to support it without accruing political risk, she'll evolve, don't worry. (or she gets a second term and completely stops giving a crap)

I do not believe you can EO away the illegality of marijuana - I believe Obama did the most he could basically saying "wink wink it's a low priority for us to prosecute". But there is a list or something they have to remove it from

I think it would take an act of Congress to make it legal. It is on a list created by some anti-drug law back after WW2 so the president can't just unilaterally legalize it, otherwise Obama would probably drop that bomb on his way out the door.

 

[Holmes]

https://twitter.com/AlisonForKY/status/733040694596669441

Dragged.

 

[Cesare Borgia]

Shaun King is leaving the Democratic Party.

BTW pretty sure he never responded to the WaPo piece he promised to discuss yesterday.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-margin/?postshare=1741463687680216&tid=ss_tw

 

[kirblar]

No. Why would I post that trash? Why ask?

That's a fairly positive article that makes the argument that a big reason millennials don't like Hillary is that they've come to know her after a 24 year smear campaign has done it's work.

I couldn't remember the avatar and wanted to double check before clicking, lol.

 

[Suikoguy]

This WaPost article on Trump talks about, well let me give you a great quote:

And the source of allegiance? We’re supposed to believe that Trump’s support stems from economic stagnation or dislocation. Maybe some of it does. But what Trump offers his followers are not economic remedies — his proposals change daily. What he offers is an attitude, an aura of crude strength and machismo, a boasting disrespect for the niceties of the democratic culture that he claims, and his followers believe, has produced national weakness and incompetence. His incoherent and contradictory utterances have one thing in common: They provoke and play on feelings of resentment and disdain, intermingled with bits of fear, hatred and anger. His public discourse consists of attacking or ridiculing a wide range of “others” — Muslims, Hispanics, women, Chinese, Mexicans, Europeans, Arabs, immigrants, refugees — whom he depicts either as threats or as objects of derision. His program, such as it is, consists chiefly of promises to get tough with foreigners and people of nonwhite complexion. He will deport them, bar them, get them to knuckle under, make them pay up or make them shut up.

Successful fascism was not about policies but about the strongman, the leader (Il Duce, Der Führer), in whom could be entrusted the fate of the nation. Whatever the problem, he could fix it. Whatever the threat, internal or external, he could vanquish it, and it was unnecessary for him to explain how. Today, there is Putinism, which also has nothing to do with belief or policy but is about the tough man who single-handedly defends his people against all threats, foreign and domestic.

Good article from a guy at the Brookings Institute which is pretty moderate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e32c58-1c47-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html

This also oddly describes a certain other political figure running right now:

A mass political movement is thus a powerful and, to those who would oppose it, frightening weapon. When controlled and directed by a single leader, it can be aimed at whomever the leader chooses. If someone criticizes or opposes the leader, it doesn’t matter how popular or admired that person has been. He might be a famous war hero, but if the leader derides and ridicules his heroism, the followers laugh and jeer. He might be the highest-ranking elected guardian of the party’s most cherished principles. But if he hesitates to support the leader, he faces political death.

hmm

 

[B-Dubs]

I couldn't remember the avatar and wanted to double check before clicking, lol.

LOL

Don't worry, I have never and will never post breitbart shit. I wrote an essay in an ethics class about how completely shit they were at their jobs.

 

[sc0la]

BTW pretty sure he never responded to the WaPo piece he promised to discuss yesterday.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-margin/?postshare=1741463687680216&tid=ss_tw

I mean he got ether'd out of party affiliation. That's sort of a response.

 

[digdug2k]

So this poped up on my facebook wall and pretty much says a lot of what I've been saying for a while in the OT. Almost tempted to make a thread.



https://thevoidist.com/the-1996-article-every-millennial-should-read-d9350b10e568#.v44ha64me

Heh. The comments on that article are kinda sick/hilarious. "It’s sad that women like Hillary who seek power seem to think they have to act like men in order to do it. I’d love to see the first female president actually embrace her femininity as a leader". She's got all the qualifications of any male president, but I like my women more feminine. Why can't Hillary show us that love and compassion are really all you need to save the world like a good woman would. I'm surprised this election hasn't turned into a "who would you want to hug more" contest.

I'm totally biased, but I really don't think history will look back fondly on Hillary's critics (I mean, after the nuclear fallout from all the wars Hillary's going to start has landed of course).

 

[itschris]

Interesting:

https://twitter.com/benchmarkpol/status/733788905049337857

 

[Holmes]

Interesting:

Yeah, people keep saying "Texas will be a swing state in a decade" but actually, that's Georgia. The Virginia/North Carolina/Georgia/Florida corridor has promising demographic trends for Democrats. They just need to turn out in midterms.

 

[Suikoguy]

Yeah, people keep saying "Texas will be a swing state in a decade" but actually, that's Georgia. The Virginia/North Carolina/Georgia/Florida corridor has promising demographic trends for Democrats. They just need to turn out in midterms.

hehe, yeah. I personally did not expect this conversation to be so serious for another 8 years though.

 

[nature boy]

Holy shit, comedy overboard on Fox.

 

[jack_package_200]

*Me hearing Shaun King is leaving the democratic party*

 

[ampere]

Interesting:

Hot take:

The Republicans can't win another Presidential election without the party entirely revamping. The only base they continue to focus on is white people and yes, white people are dwindling in vote share.

They'll keep winning a lot of Congressional seats and level elections, but it looks demographically impossible for them to win the big house again