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[Baron von Loathsome]

He's gonna fap to it every night.

 

[ivajz]

I'm not surprised, he is a small man. Remember the inauguration photo he has framed as well? The one with the wrong date on it.

Apparently it was a gift from the Russians?

Amazing, they're so good at playing him.

 

[mnannola]

A true uniter of the people

 

[Frank the Great]

Lol Trump is so easily fooled.

Some foreign monarch should, during a 1:1 meeting with Trump, offer to knight him on the spot. His ego would love it but he would come out of the meeting on violation of the Constitution.

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

Apparently it was a gift from the Russians?

I'm inclined to think this is a joke, but I literally can't tell. It could totally be true.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Apparently it was a gift from the Russians?

There's a recorder in that frame

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...a_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.409a7e80db8c

Senate hardliners pushing the Senate version of Trumpcare EVEN MORE to the right.

A lot of this stuff doesn't seem like it'd pass reconciliation. It wouldn't really be the first time Cruz didn't understand the limits of using reconciliation, either.

 

[Wilsongt]

The pettiest of petty.

 

[FyreWulff]

There's a recorder in that frame

this has literally happened before btw

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Apparently it was a gift from the Russians?

So that's where they hid the bug.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...a_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.409a7e80db8c

Senate hardliners pushing the Senate version of Trumpcare EVEN MORE to the right.

They are pretty much counting on Collins voting a No.

Question is whether Cassidy is all talk and no walk. And what will Murkowski do.

 

[Emerson]

They are pretty much counting on Collins voting a No.

Question is whether Cassidy is all talk and no walk. And what will Murkowski do.

Cotton as well.

 

[tuffy]

Trump seems to think that elections are won by acreage.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Fuck the Medicaid expansion state Republicans if they cave. Literally sentencing their constituents to death.

 

[Ithil]

Trump seems to think that elections are won by acreage.

He's the kind of moron who would say "Obviously I won the popular vote! Look at all the red! I must have won by 40 millions votes!".

 

[BlastProcessing]

Apparently it was a gift from the Russians?

The world's easiest mark.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Trump seems to think that elections are won by acreage.

The GOP is doing everything it can to make that true.

 

[SexyFish]

Apparently it was a gift from the Russians?

I'm going to lean on that being a joke since it is from Crooked Media.

 

[Diablos]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...a_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.409a7e80db8c

Senate hardliners pushing the Senate version of Trumpcare EVEN MORE to the right.

This is NOT good. Not an encouraging sign at all that the bill's progress will slow down. Fuck

 

[Ithil]

This is NOT good. Not an encouraging sign at all that the bill's progress will slow down. Fuck

The moderate Senators aren't gonna vote for that, that would kill their reelection chances.

 

[Plinko]

The Texas Republican pointed to lower premiums as his chief goal — one shared by Republicans who say that they'd be able to run on lower health bills in 2018 if they succeed on AHCA.

This is literally impossible with the direction this bill is pointing. Tens of millions of people losing their healthcare, and you're going to run on "lower health bills?" The bill does absolutely NOTHING to address actual costs!

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

The moderate Senators aren't gonna vote for that, that would kill their reelection chances.

Moderates can be forced, hard liners cannot.

 

[Diablos]

The moderate Senators aren't gonna vote for that, that would kill their reelection chances.

I wouldn't speak so soon

 

[Kevinroc]

The moderate Senators aren't gonna vote for that, that would kill their reelection chances.

If the House vote proved anything, it's that the "moderates" WILL vote for that.

 

[Emerson]

If the House vote proved anything, it's that the "moderates" WILL vote for that.

If the House vote proved anything it's that some of the moderates will and some won't. Exactly how many is what determines their success or failure.

 

[Ithil]

If the House vote proved anything, it's that the "moderates" WILL vote for that.

They've got a much narrower majority in the Senate, though. If only three Senators go against it it's done.
That's assuming it can be done with 51 votes, too. It might end up needing 60.

 

[JP_]

Fox News starting to get the ball rolling on taking down Maxine Waters: http://video.foxnews.com/v/5429541917001/?#sp=show-clips

edit: Pressley handled Tucker well though -- got him all flustered and everything.

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

At least it's real? I've seen a bunch of fake ones that show a bunch of blue counties as red, including my own.

 

[IggyChooChoo]

They've got a much narrower majority in the Senate, though. If only three Senators go against it it's done.
That's assuming it can be done with 51 votes, too. It might end up needing 60.

I'm hoping this is a sign that the GOP is just looking for a way to blame Senate Democrats; that this is all an exercise in placating their own right wing that would be demoralized if they just incompetently failed to pass anything at all. I guess we'll see whether it's real or not when Collins, Heller, and Flake start bargaining for things the way Lieberman and Baucus did.

 

[royalan]

Fox News starting to get the ball rolling on taking down Maxine Waters: http://video.foxnews.com/v/5429541917001/?#sp=show-clips

Lol. The attempt is cute.

I was born and raised in Waters' district. She will have that seat until she gives it up or dies.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

They've got a much narrower majority in the Senate, though. If only three Senators go against it it's done.
That's assuming it can be done with 51 votes, too. It might end up needing 60.

I'm not really sure the pre-existing conditions stuff would actually pass reconciliation. The Freedom Caucus doesn't seem to actually understand the limits of that method (which isn't new, they never have).

So it's kind of weird McConnell is even allowing them to get excited about stuff that probably won't actually be able to be in the bill.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

If Garland actually accepts being FBI director he is stupid as hell.

Can't give Trump an option to nominate someone to DC court of appeals

 

[Blader]

A lot of this stuff doesn't seem like it'd pass reconciliation. It wouldn't really be the first time Cruz didn't understand the limits of using reconciliation, either.

Unsurprisingly, Cruz wants Pence to overrule the parliamentarian and ignore any reconciliation rules.

This is literally impossible with the direction this bill is pointing. Tens of millions of people losing their healthcare, and you're going to run on "lower health bills?" The bill does absolutely NOTHING to address actual costs!

Serious question: have health care costs ever gone down? Short of changing to cheaper plans, has anyone's health insurance ever suddenly dropped in co-pay or premium costs?

 

[dakini]

At least it's real? I've seen a bunch of fake ones that show a bunch of blue counties as red, including my own.

Stephen Wolf from Daily Kos Elections says that he thinks it's wrong lol.

https://twitter.com/PoliticsWolf/status/862686458292973568

 

[Kevinroc]

http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20170511/NEWS/170519971

To the shock of nobody, a majority of Americans are afraid they will lose their health insurance.

Consumer Reports conducted a poll from April 6 to 9, with a nationally representative sample and released the results Thursday.

It found that 56% of Republicans say the government should make sure everyone can access affordable healthcare, and 78% of all respondents agreed.

The Quinnipiac Poll has been asking "How important is it to you that health care is affordable to all?" On April 20, 81% of respondents said it was very important, including 64% of white college-educated Republicans. Quinnipiac also asked that week if the Republicans should try again to pass the American Health Care Act, and 77% of Republicans said yes, but only 36% overall thought the party should try again.

Since these polls, the House of Representatives passed the AHCA 217-213.

Consumer Reports said its poll found 57% of people lack confidence that they or their loved ones will have access to affordable health insurance, and the proportion of Republicans expressing those fears has risen from 42% in January to 47% in April.

Quinnipiac's latest poll, released Wednesday and conducted May 4 through 9, did not ask specifically about Obamacare repeal and replace, but did ask: If the election were held today, would you prefer the Democrats or Republicans to win a majority in the House of Representatives? About 38% said they'd like a Republican majority, and 54% a Democratic majority. Among independents, 37% preferred Republicans, and 49% chose Democrats.

 

[Diablos]

This made me sick

If this is what you have to do to simply get along with this man...

We're so doomed

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Unsurprisingly, Cruz wants Pence to overrule the parliamentarian and ignore any reconciliation rules.

I'm sure McConnell would love being overruled by Pence. Ending the filibuster for a bill a little over 60% of the country hates seems like a really smart idea.

 

[pigeon]

Dems fucking up in the Senate by not going nuclear on unanimous consent.

CALL YOUR SENATORS

 

[Plinko]

If you aren't listening to McCabe right now, you need to. Verifying Comey had lost no support at all, which shows Sanders lied through her teeth.

http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20170511/NEWS/170519971

To the shock of nobody, a majority of Americans are afraid they will lose their health insurance.

It found that 56% of Republicans say the government should make sure everyone can access affordable healthcare, and 78% of all respondents agreed.

This is the part that is going to destroy them in 2018 and 2020. They keep pushing the "bububut people with preexisting conditions can still get health care!!!" without acknowledging it will be exponentially more expensive.

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

Stephen Wolf from Daily Kos Elections says that he thinks it's wrong lol.

https://twitter.com/PoliticsWolf/status/862686458292973568

Oh lol I just assumed it was right because it marked my county as blue, ha

 

[RustyNails]

This made me sick

If this is what you have to do to simply get along with this man...

We're so doomed

Yup.

Next up, King Salman of Saudi Arabia to gift a bust of Trump to White House. Arms export to KSA increases tenfold.

 

[A Serious Man]

WH spokespeople getting wrecked in this hearing.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Why is my county light blue? Hillary won by 15%, how is that only slightly blue?

What a dumb map.

 

[Hubbl3]

If you aren't listening to McCabe right now, you need to. Verifying Comey had lost no support at all, which shows Sanders lied through her teeth.




This is the part that is going to destroy them in 2018 and 2020. They keep pushing the "bububut people with preexisting conditions can still get health care!!!" without acknowledging it will be exponentially more expensive.

The default position should always be that if something originates from the WH, it's a lie.

 

[Got the Shakes]

McCabe is taking a flamethrower to everything the White House said about the Comey firing and the Russia investigation.

 

[chadskin]

WH spokespeople getting wrecked in this hearing.

Pence too.

 

[Diablos]

McCabe is taking a flamethrower to everything the White House said about the Comey firing and the Russia investigation.

He won't last long

 

[Xando]

He won't last long

Gonna be gone by the weekend with how he puts down the WH in this hearing

 

[sc0la]

Trump seems to think that elections are won by acreage.

They are when only property owners can vote.

"I'll bring back the landed qualification for the right of sufrage, big league." -Donald Trump, on the 23rd of Trumptober, the year 2AT

 

[Ogodei]

Yep. Paul, Lee, and Cruz have a lot of leverage since the three of them can kill any bill. Just have to hope other Senators dont just go along with whatever McConnell puts up. Bet they will, except Collins and Murkowski probably.

How the fuck do they think they can get more than a third of that past reconciliation?

Edit: Yeah, Cruz's theory of "fuck the parliamentarian," but that's just nuking the filibuster by another name.

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

How the fuck do they think they can get more than a third of that past reconciliation?

Cruz's position for years has been that the parliamentarian should have no say in what can be done during reconciliation and that Pence should just void whatever she says.