Single-Payer making its way through NY State Congress?
Not guaranteed to be signed into law but things seem optimistic!
Not guaranteed to be signed into law but things seem optimistic!
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| 13 Treasons Why
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Wanda/Wander
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I agree with you, though I would extend that criticism to Rachel too. That said, firing a journalist because the President complained is a terrible precedent
Just think of all of the stairs he is going to have to use.
That would be the ideal scenario, have the Trumpkins eviscerate the GOP by demanding that their jailed candidate get ballot access.
The big news is the IDC is on board, which means it's almost certain to make it through the State Senate. And if it does that Cuomo is certainly craven and opportunistic enough to sign it into law.
Which is fucking awesome.
Here's hoping no one fucks this up for us.
EDIT: Also, I totally called it.
Goddamn it. He had a good run at least (hell, longer than Olbermann!). Lawrence was great. Yeah, he was preaching to the choir, but he was lovably smug while doing it.
I wouldn't be AS bothered with this decision if it wasn't for the fact that these same assholes at MSNBC canning Lawrence also hired people like Greta and Megyn and that third former Fox News blonde that I can't remember.
Well apparently a LOT of people liked the show (including me) for exactly that same reason. Trump is shit and gets what he deserves. He may have liked to entertain impeachment too often but it's not like O'Donnell was ever lying. Since when do we cancel shows for being critical of people in power (assume the shows aren't lying). That seems disastrous as a principle no?
Given the ratings, it's obvious there is more money in MSNBC in becoming more liberal. This is why the liberal media is faltering in reach compared to the conservative media. The former tries to play nice when it doesn't have too while the conservative side never gives an inch.
I couldn't disagree more about Rachel. I don't see her being anywhere near as incendiary as O'D. Agreed about the precedent though.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
singlepayer passes in new york and i start a job search in nyc.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I really hope it's a well designed bill. It's failure after implementation could set things back.
It sucks a state can't implement their own Medicare buy-in.
Fenderputty
Banned
I saw my first AHCA / Ed Royce TV ad and I wanted to vomit a little
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I can't lie, a part of me finds the idea of Trump's overseas trip to be tremendously cathartic
He's going to hate every second of it
He's going to hate every second of it
NYCmetsfan
Banned
single payer aint passing till 2018 but its going to be something Cuomo might pick up if the dems use it effectively in 2018
Roland_Gunner
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The concept of a liberal media outside of some podcasts and radio stations is fundamentally flawed. MSNBC is owned by GE who aren't going to risk billions in government contracts over a second tier cable station. There isn't an equivalent to Fox which is dedicated to pushing an agenda no matter what conservatives say.
Probably yea, unless Cuomo and the Dems can force the GOP to bring it up it won't even get a vote. The IDC getting on board is a bit of a big deal though.
For a man that apparently wanted to sleep in his own bed every night on the campaign trail and is never more than one golf course away from something named Trump...
Yep.
He's going to hate the Middle East.
Wanda/Wander
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This
is
insane.
MSNBC just posted their highest rated quarter EVER.
The Rachel Maddow Show is now the most watched show on cable news.
You don't have to be a TV programing genius to realize that there is a hunger for more liberal programing.
The only way they could salvage firing O'Donnell is by giving Joy Reid her own show in that slot, or re-hiring Keith Olbermann.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Well how about that. As someone who lives in NY I'd certainly love to see this pass. I'm taking a look through the bill itself now to try and glean what I can despite being bad at parsing the arcane language of legal bills.
That seems pretty straightforward, though.
Slackerish
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Comcast fully owns NBC/MSNBC since early 2013.
Call your state senator then and voice your support. Unless the GOP brings it up it won't pass til after the next election.
Pushing out a host who hasn't been lying or unethical for being critical of people in power is the legit worse premise. If the president can exert implicit financial pressure to kick out people he doesn't like who haven't done anything wrong just seems ripe for abuse and a terrible slippery slope waiting to happen. All this in the face of O'Donnell;s awesome ratings!
Tapper reporting that CNN withheld the name of the city from which intelligence was collected in a report last March, at the request of the white house, because it would "get people killed"
The was over a month before Trump had a secret meeting with Kislyak barred to US press, where he divulged these details in front of Russian state media.
The was over a month before Trump had a secret meeting with Kislyak barred to US press, where he divulged these details in front of Russian state media.
I love the idea of some foreign dignitaries hosting a dinner for him then sitting some fancy dish in front of him that wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. He's a 70-year-old kid who probably orders hamburgers at McDonalds "plain" because lettuce is gross.
BoogieWoogie
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Have Murdochs' kids taken over Fox News yet? Weren't they supposed to change it from the hellhole it currently is?
gutter_trash
Banned
MSNBC got tired of winning
AND the really telling thing here is that they still knows the city and are still being asked to refrain from reporting it.
Roland_Gunner
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I'm not saying its right, just pointing out blaming this on weakness in the liberal media is flawed because it doesn't really exist.
Fair enough but the point still stands. Comcast is willing to play ball with the government in a way Fox isn't.
Ignatz Mouse
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that info-wars level seth rich conspiracy garbage isn't a good sign
broz0rs
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I've read on a site that it's Rupert who's in complete control at Fox News right now.
Burgess Everett @burgessev
New detail: President Trump called @JohnCornyn and asked him to consider FBI job
I know we all get tired of saying/hearing this. But can you even begin to fathom the reaction, had Hillary fired Comey to stop the email investigation and tried to replace him with Nancy Pelosi? It is literally unfathomable.
To me, this is Trump's Sandy Hook moment. Once the Newtown thing happened it became clear, if 20 dead children won't sway Republicans on gun control in this country, nothing will.
Now we have a president who fires the guy investigating his Russia connections, then leaks intel to the Russains. This is officially it. If the Republicans don't care about this, there's no reason to think they'll care about anything. He might as well make the Oval Office a Miss Teen USA dressing room for more convenient p-grabbing. Absolutely nothing matters at this point.
New detail: President Trump called @JohnCornyn and asked him to consider FBI job
I know we all get tired of saying/hearing this. But can you even begin to fathom the reaction, had Hillary fired Comey to stop the email investigation and tried to replace him with Nancy Pelosi? It is literally unfathomable.
To me, this is Trump's Sandy Hook moment. Once the Newtown thing happened it became clear, if 20 dead children won't sway Republicans on gun control in this country, nothing will.
Now we have a president who fires the guy investigating his Russia connections, then leaks intel to the Russains. This is officially it. If the Republicans don't care about this, there's no reason to think they'll care about anything. He might as well make the Oval Office a Miss Teen USA dressing room for more convenient p-grabbing. Absolutely nothing matters at this point.
Ignatz Mouse
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If O'Donnell's show is so highly rated, won't he likely get another spot somewhere else?
Ratings = $$$ = what these guys ultimately want.
Ratings = $$$ = what these guys ultimately want.
It's the only thing that doesn't result in them losing steam. They replace O'Donnell with someone like Brian Williams or that asshole Hewitt to get a conservative bent right after Maddow then that time slot is good as dead. People will watch Rachael and then turn the channel unless there is some big event. Joy or maybe Ari Melber would be good replacements.
Joy and Ari are both awesome and would be good there. I like Kornacki too. Hewitt would be a disaster. Olbermann would be interesting, though it'd be hard to justify replacing O'Donnell with him when he's just as much of a bomb-thrower.
Aaron Strife
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If Cuomo signs single-payer that would be a huge boost to his (assumed) presidential campaign.
Medicare for All was probably Bernie's most resonant policy, it'd be an easy way to beat back allegations about being a Wall Street shill or whatever. Also he might have more street cred on gay marriage than any other straight politician.
Not that I'd be super pumped about voting for Cuomo.
Medicare for All was probably Bernie's most resonant policy, it'd be an easy way to beat back allegations about being a Wall Street shill or whatever. Also he might have more street cred on gay marriage than any other straight politician.
Not that I'd be super pumped about voting for Cuomo.
What other network is going to give him the opportunity to share his super liberal views?
edit: wait, is it just Lawrence's show being cancelled, or is he getting the boot from MSNBC entirely?
nature boy
Member
Urgh one less reason to watch cable news.
O'Donnell is not the problem in your lineup MSNBC.
O'Donnell is not the problem in your lineup MSNBC.
Tranqueris
Banned
So who's left on the FBI director list? Everyone seems to be declining the job or pulling out.
Outdoor Miner
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Maddow: "That's our show for tonight, thanks for watching. Stay tuned for The Jeffrey Lord Show. *makes gagging motion* "
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I know this is a joke, but I honestly wonder what a theoretical Hillary vs. Trump 2.0 matchup would end up like.
I think it goes both ways. Nominating young candidates is dangerous because they generally haven't had time to have dirt dug up on them yet. Thrust them into the spotlight in a national election and then everything comes out. If someone has been hiding something, it will come out. Guys like Biden have already had everything thrown at them.
I agree about the youth enthusiasm, but I wonder how big of an effect a VP can have. For instance, not that I'd want to see it any more, but a Bernie VP slot would pretty much lock up all of those Bernie-bro voters. I wonder if black turnout would have been higher had Hillary picked Booker for the VP slot instead of Kaine.
Dominican Power
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Letting him go would be a big mistake. MSNBC is throwing progressives under the bus and putting these hack conservatives on their air waves.
BoogieWoogie
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They see which way the wind is blowing. I feel like none of those who remain would get voted in by Congress.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I seriously wonder if nobody wants it because they know they'd have to be the one leading the charge against him and they know one is coming.
Dominican Power
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They gave Joy own her show and then demoted her. And what makes them think that Joy wouldn't shit on Trump just as much as Lawrence does? MSNBC is trying to turn into CNN lite.
exmachina64
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Well, it's nice to dream.
Impeach me if this was posted already:
https://twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/status/864574596128886784
Tapper breaking it all down. CNN had found details of the laptop bomb story in March, was asked by the Trump admin not to report the information as it could get operatives killed. Red Don revealed the exact same information to his comrades in the Oval Office. Unreal.
https://twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/status/864574596128886784
Tapper breaking it all down. CNN had found details of the laptop bomb story in March, was asked by the Trump admin not to report the information as it could get operatives killed. Red Don revealed the exact same information to his comrades in the Oval Office. Unreal.
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