Joe Shlabotnik
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My guess too.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| 13 Treasons Why
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Ignatz Mouse
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Mr.Shrugglesã
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This has become one of the most depressing pictures. Without the quote.
nature boy
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Are these R bitches bipolar?
lulz
*i_understood_that_reference.gif*
RustyNails
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Yesterday while driving in Illinois I saw a bumper sticker that had Hillary on with the text "liar liar pantsuit on fire". I bet the guy driving would justify every Trump lie bomb.
TestOfTide
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It's a trap. Graham is baiting Flynn's team into actually doing that so that the Senate GOP has no choice but to arrest him.
Graham isn't going to outright condemn Trump but will instead do everything he can to bait Trump and his associates into fucking up. It's very clever actually because he can say to both Trump's fanbase and everyone else that he only did what he was legally require to do.
I wonder if Graham's play is effectively being the clean-up crew to reshape the party after McConnell/Ryan get pushed out.
It means I care just as much for the potential victims of President Pence and would want a check on his ability to govern. Or what do you think will happen if Trump is kicked out tomorrow? The GOP will coalesce around Pence and ram through an agenda that makes Reagan and Bush seem moderate.
TestOfTide
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Oh he is definitely setting himself up for such a scenario.
My only question is what does he plan to do with or without the democrats to deal with trump's fanbase.
Not seeing the 12th dimension chess move here. Congress has so far shown little teeth in how they approach the whole Russia investigation. Graham isn't exempt.
Uh, what?
Mike Giglio‏ @mike_giglio
BREAKING: US official confirms to @BuzzFeedNews that the US-led Coalition hit Assad regime forces with air strikes in southern Syria today
Doesn't Congress need to be involved in this decision at some point? Is Trump going to unilaterally take us to war in a pathetic attempt to save himself?
Mike Giglio‏ @mike_giglio
BREAKING: US official confirms to @BuzzFeedNews that the US-led Coalition hit Assad regime forces with air strikes in southern Syria today
Doesn't Congress need to be involved in this decision at some point? Is Trump going to unilaterally take us to war in a pathetic attempt to save himself?
Mr.Shrugglesã
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Military strikes don't need congress approval.
The president needs Congress to declare war, he doesn't need them to take action.
broz0rs
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Finally, someone on Twitter who gets it
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/865215203893534720
Media is too obsessed with Trump's personal income tax returns, which most likely won't show anything. Audit of his actual business is the only way to go to clear up the Russia connection.
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/865215203893534720
Media is too obsessed with Trump's personal income tax returns, which most likely won't show anything. Audit of his actual business is the only way to go to clear up the Russia connection.
aspiegamer
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Sessions is adorable. "You can buy booze, cigs, dip, vape juice, energy shots, energy drinks and mild amphetamines as your corner grocery store, but NEVER WEED! THAT'S GOING TOO FAR!"
Via Marginal Revolution, a recent paper on the negative effects NIMBYism has had on metropolitan housing stock: http://marginalrevolution.com/margi...ns.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
edit: The study finds it amounts to a net decrease of around 2% of GDP. 2% of GDP is $370 Billion dollars.
Plus a bonus column that puts it more simply: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-05-17/taking-on-nimbys-in-the-quest-for-growth
I really like the idea of a progressive property tax.
edit: The study finds it amounts to a net decrease of around 2% of GDP. 2% of GDP is $370 Billion dollars.
Plus a bonus column that puts it more simply: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-05-17/taking-on-nimbys-in-the-quest-for-growth
I really like the idea of a progressive property tax.
To be clear, though, this is just the standard "party before country" position. No one wants to hurt the other party just 'cause. What Mitch McConnell tells himself is that what he's doing is best for the country long-term because the Democrats are just that bad. Massive obstruction under Obama to the point of shutting down the government and risking default had costs, yes, but it's "just a balance of that against what horrible things" the Democrats could do if they were more popular. Protecting Trump now is obviously not ideal, but if he goes down the Democrats are likely to do much better in upcoming elections and that's even worse, because the Democrats want terrible things.
I'm not saying that this line of thinking is always wrong, but it is what we're seeing when we wish that someone would instead put "country before party".
You don't have to be machiavellian to pull the strings here. All you have to realize is that Trump is driving the GOP to a dangerous area in the near future which will result in a lot of the leadership going down. You have to simply be mildly contrarian while toeing the official party line. Then when everything goes down you have the clout to say "I was one of the good ones!"
Cesare Borgia
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Exactly. Everything Graham, McCain, etc do seems in preparation for a post-Trump republican party. They'll be able to say they gave him a chance, but ultimately had to help take him down (hearings, congress, impeachment, etc), assuming things go that far. That's not a terrible position to be in.
On the flip side there are republicans like Ben Sasse who have been opposed since day one...what will their reward be in a post-Trump world? Will it matter, or will simply being a republican be too toxic in the short term for anyone to benefit. We don't know.
Sasse has already been cultivating a big fan base among the media, clearly angling for the 2020 nomination. Very 2000s McCain. I still don't think he has a constituency in the Republican base.
You can't just put this unrestrained xenophobia and racism back in the bottle. Not when that is the Republican base. And it's not like he's a moderate either.
His only constituency is a media hostage to the "both sidezzz" mentality.
You can't just put this unrestrained xenophobia and racism back in the bottle. Not when that is the Republican base. And it's not like he's a moderate either.
His only constituency is a media hostage to the "both sidezzz" mentality.
Isn't a progressive property tax the same thing as a land value tax? Basically encourages the highest and best use of property or you are paying a "penalty". Or is it progressive based on wealth/income of owner (which wouldn't make any sense btw)
*Channeling my inner Matt Yglesias*
nature boy
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Doubt he can win, but hey prove me wrong.
Quick google check makes it seems like they're different solutions to the same general problem.
Futurevoid
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The tide is turning, though, even in this. This is just people not wanting to admit what they voted for--to the point of admitting that and just tuning it out.
Futurevoid
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Lieberman emerges as the front runner for the Director of the FBI job:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/18/joe-lieberman-fbi-frontrunner-238563
He would be 85 by the end of his 10 year term.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/18/joe-lieberman-fbi-frontrunner-238563
He would be 85 by the end of his 10 year term.
disgusting. Not only a politician, but a jackass
better get zero democratic support
who am I kidding
nature boy
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For those giving Graham the benefit of the doubt:
Video: https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/865268594954952705
Video: https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/865268594954952705
Mr.Shrugglesã
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What in the fuck
Futurevoid
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disgusting. Not only a politician, but a jackass
better get zero democratic support
who am I kidding
With ridiculous conflicts of interest.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/davidhalperin/lieberman-introducing-dev_b_14232914.html
Something that should be brought up front and center for any confirmation hearing.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Just announced: Former CIA Director Brennan will testify in open session before House Intel Committee next Tuesday as part of Russia probe.
https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/865271299991588865
Democracy was a mistake. Burn it all to the ground, and have Hillary stage a coup.
At least there'd be something to investigate then.
GA06:
Spoiled Milk
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I think my heart sunk.
Dominican Power
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Graham was never shit and will never be shit.
SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE CHEAP SEATS IN THE BACK
To be fair, before and after Trump, people (namely Republicans) will still hate Killary, so this still plays.
Haha I love the simultaneous "I just won't watch" and giving credit to the president for things happening in your own state. Like, that's willful ignorance so not much you can do for that.
What the fuck??
Joe Lieberman is single-handedly responsible for why this country does not have a public option now, and potentially ever. Fuck him forever.
Ah, but don't you see, this is all part of his post-Trump appeal to revive the GOP, so he can say he was against Trump AND Clinton!
Ah, but don't you see, this is all part of his post-Trump appeal to revive the GOP, so he can say he was against Trump AND Clinton!
Androidsleeps
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This week is the definition of too much news.
It's about what I expected. Separate from the current GOP leadership, the Republican base still despises Clinton. Graham can act contrarian in a bid to take control of the GOP after the fallout, and then throw shit like this to the base to keep them on his side
Joe Shlabotnik
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