BoogieWoogie
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FC won't go with it if people can keep their insurance for pre-existing conditions.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| 13 Treasons Why
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balladofwindfishes
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Schrodinger's ACHA. It's both alive and dead.
Fenderputty
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They're in a lose lose no matter what. Which is polling worse though? I think that Kaiser poll suggested that 61% of people would blame the GOP for the AHCA failing via sabotage, but the actual ACA is like 20% approval.
How long would a sabotage take anyway? I seems like a good strategy to me. If it takes years of sabotaging the GOP loses nothing in 2018 by doing this, and prevents any other damage that could happen by passing the ACA itself. They can try and blame dems the whole way. If it works they keep the house and have two more years of power and an opportunity to repeal and replace. If they lose the house they can go back to the politics of destroying the AHCA and still blame dems for nothing happening in their first two years.
Going with the "i'm too stupid" defence, it's a bold move Cotton, let's see how it plays out.
Can't collude if you can barely communicate with anyone.
nature boy
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I wouldn't put any guarantees about what the Freedom Caucus will accept.
RustyNails
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Anti-Comey TV ads paid for by Pro-Trump groups going up tomorrow.
Macho Madness
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The problem with all of this "but they won't do XXX" with the AHCA is that yes they fucking will shut up
RustyNails
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Betting $100 Trump didn't know about the massive US airbase The Leid in Qatar. Or forgot about it.
Basileus777
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It's always funny when you go to vote and the people working the poll booths look at you like a unicorn because someone actually showed up tp vote.
YES!
Jesus. I've been banging this drum for months, people keep shouting me down, and this healthcare bill keeps rolling.
Worry this Russia stuff is useless distraction. I find it pretty dumb tbh, and its not going to help unify a healthcare message.
balladofwindfishes
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Well they're not ending the filibuster for it, that's at least true. So if it doesn't pass reconciliation (still up in the air on it), then it's dead, instantly, full stop.
They could do it over, but would they? Probably not. They already don't like how long this has been dragging on, they aren't going to waste the entire of 2017 on a healthcare repeal the majority of people don't even want.
VendettaRed07
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I refer to Ayn Rand whenever I want to be able to predict what the GOP will do. Because outside of lord Reagan she's probably their go to philosopher
The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me".
They'll do it. Because they can and democrats cant stop them.
Agreed.
Frankly, after all we've seen this Congress do, I'm surprised people are still willing to say "CLEARLY they won't do this, because [insert sound logic and reasoning here]!!"
I mean really, what floor hasn't the GOP busted through yet? Where have they set a limit for how low they're willing to go?
I wouldn't put it past them at all to pass AHCA.
Basileus777
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There's a difference between saying that the AHCA could pass and just being a one note negative doomsayer and predicting the worse outcome everytime.
ShadowSwordmaster
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This is just dumb.
Can anyone point to an article which makes the case for why it would?
I get what you're saying, but with this Congress, when has the bold not been more or less correct?
Guys. We are in the dark timeline.
The great American democratic experiment has failed.
Nazgul_Hunter
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What do you mean? This is a great sign that they're afraid what's gonna be said.
Isn't this just our daily reality now?
RumbleHumble
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It's stuff like this that hypes me too much for Comey's testimony. Like if Trumpkins are going to the point of spending campaign dollars on mitigating what lies ahead, what is it that has them so deeply afraid?
Honestly, we need to pull waaaaaaaaaaay back here.
I don't think anything will come of this hearing, outside of confirming that which has already been reported (which is significant, but not juicy, 24/7 news cycle worthy). Just reflect on how frothed up this board was pre-Yates testimony - which served up nothing.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Who is this directed at? Curious, because I predicted it would pass earlier, but I also think Ossoff is going to win and democrats will win in a blue wave in 2018.
balladofwindfishes
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I can't find it right now, but it was some technicality about Native American health care
They want this over with. We know this. That's probably the only way it actually passes is because they're just bored of talking about it and want it to go away.
They absolutely are not going to drag this into 2018.
RumbleHumble
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
We already know they are going to go the insane route of focusing on an anti-media campaign for 2018, so let's not pretend that these people follow any logic whatsoever.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
nature boy
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BOOM.
RealPressSecBot vindicated
It's just social media.
VendettaRed07
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I don't know if I'm expecting bombshells per say but at the same time due to Comey's relationship with Mueller I don't think he'd be doing this if he didn't have anything to say. Hed likely just let his investigation carry on. But I think Comey believes whatever he has to say will give The special counsel direction and more leads based on how the WH or other republicans react to it
Well since everything leaks we don't even need the hearings.
http://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/...mp-obstructed-justice-flynn/story?id=47865739
http://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/...mp-obstructed-justice-flynn/story?id=47865739
nature boy
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They've replaced official statements for the most part.
He sounds so devastated. Must be boring in social media for him.
Can't wait to see what' the compromise ends up being. What a bunch of shit.
I'm with PBY. We are in a reality where the worst case is becoming the norm. It started on election night.
Yup.
Shit will continue to suck unless the Ds win in 2018. Rs can't be relied on to do anything.
TestOfTide
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I wouldn't worry that much considering two key pieces of news recently:
- Fox News has been dipping in ratings
- Breitbart has lost 90% of advertisers
The far right is losing the PR battle.
AntraxSuicide
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Then why post? What's the discussion that gets generated?
Yeah they killed the golden goose. Too crazy for advertisers and there's not enough GoFundMe money in the world to sustain them all.
Maybe I wasn't clear. I was asking if there is any case that the AHCA should be allowed under reconciliation. It's hard to see how it might be possible. The Byrd rule is explicit. A reconciliation bill cannot include provisions which have no budgetary impact, or provisions whose budgetary impact are incidental to its non-budgetary​ impact.
The AHCA's regulatory components are in clear violation. It would be absurd for it to be permitted and I have never seen the argument in it's favor.
well if you think about it, we're all going to die some day anyway.
They're just rallying to defend Dear Leader. Nobody outside of the handful of people who actually communicated with Russians, plus their lawyers, even know what it is they should be afraid about.
This has been posted in other threads, so maybe I'm just being dense but what does Fox News' ratings have to do with the success or failure of an anti-media campaign?
Better make entitlement cuts so we don't have to raise the debt ceiling THEN make even more entitlement cuts to pay for tax cuts! We all have to share in the sacrifice here
especially if you are not rich
The founding fathers failed to predict the collective IQ decline of white people and their tendency to be fleeced by orange gonads.
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