toddhunter
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STEAM Announcements/Updates 2013 - Summer sale start date? No one knows, don't ask
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Sidhe Interactive just made "The List"
Far out considering they're from this region you would think they would help us out...
But then again I can't find a copy of Rugby League Live 2 for PS3 for a decent price anywhere $65 is way too much...
Sidhe Interactive just made "The List"
It's unfortunate, but I'm assuming Sidhe was given the green light to self-publish on Steam provided it didn't undercut Tru Blu on retail copies.
TekGryphon
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You're confused.
I was already a Steam customer. I have over 400 games.
The only time I spend my money on Steam is during sales and, as my library attests, I'm willing to spend a lot. This quarter Steam is going to be getting a fraction from my wallet of what they would normally get due to their stubborn opaqueness on revealing sale schedules.
My Steam gaming group also made numerous purchases through GMG the last few days.
You can spin it however you want but the fact is, I, and many of my friends, people in this forum, and on other gaming communities, are members of the "high value" segment on Steam. We are monetized heavily and we love Steam as a platform, yet Steam still lost out on a majority of the money we were prepared to spend this quarter.
That's bad, no matter how many glittering beard pics you care to throw out.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
GMG and Amazon sales are both trash. GMG started out intriguing, but now looks like it might end up even less interesting that Amazon's.
for some reason Crysis 2 is now running pitch perfect at a constant 60fps with everything maxed out on the Maldo mod, whereas earlier today it was struggling quite a bit. Equally demanding areas
this game behaves weird
just got Mortal Kombat and the walking dead DLC. summer sale starts
this game behaves weird
just got Mortal Kombat and the walking dead DLC. summer sale starts
I agree but considering that for the last couple of sales the Steam sale was always the worst, maybe it's a sign that everything will be terrible this time.
BigTnaples
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What are the chances Skyrim DLC goes on sale for the summer sale?
Wanting to get back into modded Skyrim and play the DLC and all the stuff I didn't finish before. But I don't want to spend 50 bucks on DLC and have the DLC be cheap as dirt during the summer sale.
Would it be less likely to go on sale because of the Legendary Edition? Or could it go on sale regardless?
Wanting to get back into modded Skyrim and play the DLC and all the stuff I didn't finish before. But I don't want to spend 50 bucks on DLC and have the DLC be cheap as dirt during the summer sale.
Would it be less likely to go on sale because of the Legendary Edition? Or could it go on sale regardless?
Just a shame I can't turn my useless coupons into mystery cards.
It'll go on sale regardless. See: Fallout: NV UE and Fallout: NV DLC.
toddhunter
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Point 1. It is Valve's platform and they let this happen. They have access to all the full figures and business scenarios and they would have looked at those figures and made a business decision about how to make the most money. I think they have that side of it covered.
Point 2.... no point 1 is probably enough.
There isn't any way it could be bad for them.
Probably true, still sucks though. Certainly a game I'll pass on off of steam directly at least.
I think it is something like $30 on PSN at the moment.
There should be some retroactive thing in place by valve because
But it will come down to what the mystery cards bring. If they only count towards a SUMMER SALE BADGE then whoopdiedoo.
How is anyone "screwed over"?
Yeah, I have a big bunch of them sitting in my inventory, collecting digital dust.
Is the game Steamworks? You could buy a resold key so you still get the game but Sidhe sees none of your money.
Edit: The mystery cards intrigue me so I may level up one more badge before the sale starts... probably Super Meat Boy (Brutal Legend cards are cheaper still but there are far too many of them).
Lots of people (me included) got lots of totally worthless and useless 1 week discount coupons that could have been these (non-perishable) mystery cards instead.
Of course, if the mystery cards turn out to be equally worthless, it wouldn't have mattered, but it would have been nicer to have the cards instead.
toddhunter
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Is the game Steamworks? You could buy a resold key so you still get the game but Sidhe sees none of your money.
Doesn't look like it. Also Sidhu, Jonah Lomu was a star like 18 years ago...but I digress.
Even if it is nothing, it is a bit of fun. I'm a sucker for things like this and "mystery games" on indie bundles.
Mind you my prize for making a badge is a wallpaper with naked babies on it...which is kind of a strange thing to have now.
No, I agree with you, but I don't feel screwed over. I haven't been evicted, the lab didn't call with grim news, and I just looked outside and see no meteor fast approaching.
Even had I exhausted all my badges by fiving regulars and foils for the previous games, they released new cards today so I'd be able to craft more badges and get mystery cards same as everyone else.
I dislike coupons, but I think I dislike cheesing and hyperbole even more.
Interesting thanks! I've got a mate who is in the US and bugs me all the time to buy a copy to play against him.
On-topic - Up to $25 in my wallet for the sales, hopefully some interesting things come up for sale rather than the usual always on sale games.
It was just an expression. Stop taking everything so literal.
HP_Wuvcraft
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You know, I'm sure that he actually meant that he felt Valve had sex with him.
I think you are overlooking several things. You have tunnel vision towards a small segment of the market and then extrapolating that out to cover the whole.
You aren't their primary target, you have already dumped hundreds of dollars into the Steam ecosystem, already bought in and have become intrinsically attached.
They are focusing on the new members. Let them get brought into the Valve client with the cheap deals elsewhere, much like you were brought in years ago.
They are looking for the millions of people who are new to Steam. The ones that are just starting and have yet to amass the massive amount of games that you have. That is their primary market. And the tens of millions of existing customers that have been apart of the client for a decade, and will continue to do so down the road.
They aren't losing money by you buying the game from elsewhere, bandwidth costs are minuscule at this point. They are forfeiting that 30% of the sale in order to get new customers and retain old customers. This process is netting Valve hundreds of thousands, if not millions of potential new customers. And retaining millions upon millions of loyal customers. This is the genius of Steamworks.
These are millions of new eyes that will be looking at the Summer sale discounts next week. That is millions of new potential revenue streams coming in over the years. And you are one of the 60 million or so retained customers that will be looking at the Steam sale next week.
Valve is loaded for back end revenue, not front end. They don't care how you buy in, but they are looking to have that revenue stream for as long as possible.
Still too figurative. Try some orange juice and vodka.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Awesome. Great example. Thanks, I will wait then.
a monopolistic genius, I might addI think you are overlooking several things. You have tunnel vision towards a small segment of the market and then extrapolating that out to cover the whole.
You aren't their primary target, you have already dumped hundreds of dollars into the Steam ecosystem, already bought in and have become intrinsically attached.
They are focusing on the new members. Let them get brought into the Valve client with the cheap deals elsewhere, much like you were brought in years ago.
They are looking for the millions of people who are new to Steam. The ones that are just starting and have yet to amass the massive amount of games that you have. That is their primary market. And the tens of millions of existing customers that have been apart of the client for a decade, and will continue to do so down the road.
They aren't losing money by you buying the game from elsewhere, bandwidth costs are minuscule at this point. They are forfeiting that 30% of the sale in order to get new customers and retain old customers. This process is netting Valve hundreds of thousands, if not millions of potential new customers. And retaining millions upon millions of loyal customers. This is the genius of Steamworks.
These are millions of new eyes that will be looking at the Summer sale discounts next week. That is millions of new potential revenue streams coming in over the years. And you are one of the 60 million or so retained customers that will be looking at the Steam sale next week.
Valve is loaded for back end revenue, not front end. They don't care how you buy in, but they are looking to have that revenue stream for as long as possible.
This actually perfectly plays into my point. Why would Valve feel the need to advertise?
The Steamworks system does it for them, and is designed perfectly to do so.
You average consumer will get on the Amazon sale, GMG, Gamestop, etc. See all of the amazing deals, 'Skyrim, Deus Ex: HR, Hitman, Tomb Raider, Sleeping Dogs! All for $5?'
They instantly buy the titles, then have to install Steam in order to download and play them. Instant customer, and free advertising.
The Void is not exactly a point and click in the sense of most of those others. That said, it would be my recommendation as I feel you're well enough endowed to appreciate it. It's main mechanic is frustrating and difficult and you can paint yourself into unwinnable scenarios. If that lessens your compulsion I would tell you that I think it's at least worth your while to watch Someone else do so.
If you're looking for more traditional point and click and you don't mind a little cheese and a horrible protagonist name, Gemini Rue is easy and worth playing through with a nice dystopic atmosphere. Only one silly pixel hunt that I encountered.
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toddhunter
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just to further what mr. elysia's saying, the void is one of my favorite recent games. it's a very strange game, there's a bunch of weird subsystem that the game makes the effort not to explain but it's a joy when you finally figure them out. it's also a joy to play since it's very minimalistic in its story progression, you can easily screw yourself over in the first 10 minutes but at the same time once you're giving a bit of power you're allowed to do whatever you want, I think you can even just kill every single character in the game.
it's also a game where this
is a casual sight
really wonderful stuff if you can stomach a bit of brutal base mechanics (though there are a few mods that make it a bit easier and the game doesn't lose much, I can attest of that)
also from your list a few comments:
* the blackwell series are kinda meh, the first game is pretty good but I found myself hating it as it went deeper into familiar ghost story tropes
* tlj was not my style, took way too long to take off and just ran like shit on my pc for some reason.
* gemini rue is great, you can't go wrong with it
* resonance was uh, I dunno, was kinda interesting early on but I got stuck way too many times and just didn't enjoy it
* still life has an interesting premise but not that much else going for it imo and it has like the worst puzzle in the history of puzzles. seriously fuck that robot
Lomu is still probably the most well known worldwide. I don't watch Rugby and know about 3 players by name.
I think you are overlooking several things. You have tunnel vision towards a small segment of the market and then extrapolating that out to cover the whole.
You aren't their primary target, you have already dumped hundreds of dollars into the Steam ecosystem, already bought in and have become intrinsically attached.
They are focusing on the new members. Let them get brought into the Valve client with the cheap deals elsewhere, much like you were brought in years ago.
They are looking for the millions of people who are new to Steam. The ones that are just starting and have yet to amass the massive amount of games that you have. That is their primary market. And the tens of millions of existing customers that have been apart of the client for a decade, and will continue to do so down the road.
They aren't losing money by you buying the game from elsewhere, bandwidth costs are minuscule at this point. They are forfeiting that 30% of the sale in order to get new customers and retain old customers. This process is netting Valve hundreds of thousands, if not millions of potential new customers. And retaining millions upon millions of loyal customers. This is the genius of Steamworks.
These are millions of new eyes that will be looking at the Summer sale discounts next week. That is millions of new potential revenue streams coming in over the years. And you are one of the 60 million or so retained customers that will be looking at the Steam sale next week.
Valve is loaded for back end revenue, not front end. They don't care how you buy in, but they are looking to have that revenue stream for as long as possible.
I have created the following, and decidedly awful, pictorial flow chart illustrating Valve's business model:
(This took me twice as long as it should have because I initially saved it as a JPG and didn't realise this until after I'd closed Fireworks.)
Thanks for Elven Legacy!
BoosterDuck
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exmachina64
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I can't unsee that, JaseC.
http://www.bully-board.com/index.php?topic=13762.0
But Stallion Free said you need to disable it for a certain minigame.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Right away, sadly its just a bunch of dosbox executables and steam overlay doesnt work on it.
I'm ok with this. It's what I expected and it's at least good to be able to play the classics again.
TekGryphon
Banned
See my PM. [EDIT] I'd like to point out that the OP has been spamming my inbox. I'm responding to his initiated PMs, not the other way around, since some people found this was "insulting". [/EDIT]
I'm not interested in discussing high school level business theories with a kid who thinks that losing large percentages of potential revenues from moderately to highly monetized brand-loyal customers is a "good strategy".
Business operations and marketing is not monolithic. You can pursue new customer acquisition AND customer retention. Valve is losing out on revenue by not being transparent or aggressive enough with their sales, and other companies are using that to their advantage to poach revenue.
jaundicejuice
Member
That's not pejorative in the slightest.
DUFFMCWALIN
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If you want to last here awhile you should leave this garbage at the door. I've been banned for similar language and your banning right now would be permanent because your still a junior.
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