The bright spot is that it's very likely this alt-right wave collapses when it when tries to breach some european countries like France. The liberal golden age won't necessarily come back but the alt right will have to start dealing with big losses soon.
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The bright spot is that it's very likely this alt-right wave collapses when it when tries to breach some european countries like France. The liberal golden age won't necessarily come back but the alt right will have to start dealing with big losses soon.
CitizenVectron
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I think you underestimate the racial tensions in France... They are 10x what they are in NA.
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It'll come to a halt when far right policies inevitably start affecting average people who don't realize what they're supporting. People like to talk about Brexit like it hasn't done much when Brexit hasn't even happened yet.
anyone vote KKK is pure scum to me.
Democrats need to find a way to win Maricopa County if they want to win Arizona in a presidential election.
I expect Le Pen to do better then her father in the 2002 election but I expect her to still get crushed. Instead of losing by like 65% I expect her to lose by anywere between 10 and 40%.
I'm not saying it will completely collapse but the alt right will probably start to recognize they are not invincible when they start to lose elections like the french presidential election next year by possibly a landslide like margin;.
Metalingus5150
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I wonder how Islamophobes will feel when Trump bows to the king of Saudi Arabia.
metalslimer
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SC DNC Chair just announced he's running for DNC chair on Maddow
whyamihere
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I mean, AZ will be closer than NC. It's going to be contested in 2020. So will GA and ME. The map sort of flattened. There are just going to be a lot of weird paths to 270 for both parties.
Sessions is said to be the favorite for Secretary of Defense.
A Human Becoming
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If the exit polls are so badly done, why don't they change the procedure? It sucks having to wait for The Upshot to give a more accurate breakdown of how demographics voted.
RastaMentality
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well if the short list is anything to go by, that leaves Christie? LOL
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Eh, Germany and France are next to go through the same thing the UK and the US are going through.
That being said, I would put fewer chances on France falling than Germany. There might be a lot of tensions in France, but people are fairly well educated and if there is a country that is used to this stuff it's France.
Ben Carson.
You're not powerless. Our backs are against the wall, yes but that's when you fight the hardest. You're only powerless if you do nothing.
Yeah depression is a real thing so these are different elements perhaps at play. However, giving up is a choice if you're just feeling bummed about the state of affairs via politics. These things go through cycles, it's up to folks to decide how short they want this cycle to be.
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Would Christie really be AG? I'd expect him to be press secretary or some such, unless that goes to Conway.
VendettaRed07
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Even though it's promising that the numbers we are seeing in the south are moving.. not enough to be reliable or bank on in the future. Ultimately we need to hang on to the rust belt for dear life because we're still a ways away from trusting southern states to swing
Like the fact that Hillary and others campaigned in Arizona but not Wisconsin was a fucking political malpractice. I get going for it but sure up where you need to win.
VendettaRed07
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I don't think he will because of bridgegate. But I'd hope he could because once upon a time he was defending his appointment of a Muslim judge in Jersey when other republicans killed him for it. He has sanity in there but he went off the rails out of desperation to save some sort of political future.
He'd be 1000 times better of an AG than any other name we've heard mentioned.
RustyNails
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But how could they have known the inner racist got activated in rust belt? The last MULaw poll which is gold standard in Wisconsin polling had Clinton +6. I am sure their internal polling said the same thing. This election was a fluke.
The thing that will save france from len pen next year is that le pen needs like 50.1% in the second round to become president and people on the left and right when faced with a presidential candidate in the second round that is far right in France tend to settle their differences with the help of other french political leaders and unite by one candidate to crush the far right like what happened with le pen's father in 2002 and other local races the FN took part in recently. Also, I always thought le pen had a worse chance of becoming the next french president then trump had of winning the US presidential election because of the way the french presidential system works.
I can't help but have similar feelings. The GOP can't count on these voters to show up in the future especially if/when Trump's presidency is a dud. They also can't count on many of the midwestern voters to consistently vote R either considering they voted for Obama twice.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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The issue is that Sarkozy may become the president.
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https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/797896141555630080
Why do people take Jimmy Dore and TYT seriously again?
Also I hope Adam is okay
Why do people take Jimmy Dore and TYT seriously again?
Also I hope Adam is okay
VendettaRed07
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It wasn't a fluke. The rust belt flipped because of trade.
Like, why else would Hillary break with Obama on TPP? She clearly did for a reason. It even caused a little bit of tension between them at times. She wouldn't have done it if she didn't believe it was something incredibly important and necessary to win the election. She ran on Obamas third term but rejected his latest policy position.
Problem was she couldn't walk back her previous comments on it and no one believed her. No republican before trump was willing to offer an economic promise beyond tax cuts and Trump's trade and anti establishment angle made the difference.
Also Hillary's lack of campaigning really hurt. Even if you can win rural areas, visit them to limit the damage. Or atleast go to states that are +6 a few times before spending so much time in NY and California which were like +20
metalslimer
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These loons deserve no influence in what the party does.
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Especially how Dore claimed Trump would be better than Hillary.
It's only time this happened. Do I need to donate to the Onion to keep them afloat?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Adam's okay 
Who the fuck knows at this point. Cenk has his (rare) moments, but god what a bunch...
I can't even see Jimmy Dore's name without laughing at the memory of him making a damn fool out himself on Sam Seder's show.
shinra-bansho
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Sean Hannity will be Press Secretary.
Chris Bridgegate Christie will be AG.
Kushner hates him I think so maybe not.
Chris Bridgegate Christie will be AG.
Kushner hates him I think so maybe not.
Yeah. The only thing that may prevent Le Pen from getting crushed is if sarkozy or hollande reach the second round.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Also, Sarkozy is horrible.
whyamihere
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If Hollande reaches the second round, Le Pen could win.
I feel like I am reading hella old threads people talking about sarkozy lol
Non-ironic yasssAdam's okay
Christy would be fine as AG. Assuming he doesn't see fit for more traffic problems.
This is literally the opposite of helping Bernie out.
It could. Can't be too cautious. I'd replace it with STAND UP.
I like it though.
Do you ever have fun
oh yeah "stand up", that works.
Dubbedinenglish
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"Resist" seems to be the word that is catching on.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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That "Eliminate Common Core" is one of Trump's six policy proposals and no one in the Trumpsphere can articulate what Common Core is is just so impressive.
"Hate Muslims."
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"Eliminate Common Core I guess? But I don't know what Common Core is...."
"Hate Muslims."
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"Eliminate Common Core I guess? But I don't know what Common Core is...."
shinra-bansho
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Taking us back to pre-women's suffrage and sodomy laws.
The soviets were actually pretty radical on social issues before Stalin ruined it you know
VendettaRed07
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It might be wrong of me but I'm slightly happy the keystone pipeline will happen now.
There's a reason Trudeau supported it. Traveling crude oil by rail is terrible. It's expensive and there are spills/crashes all the time. The pipeline will be a lot safer and we won't have environmental oil spills all the time.
I get why Obama was against it, but it isn't as terrible as it sounds because arguments against it generally ignore the fact how terrible the way we ship crude oil from Canada to Houston generally is.
There's a reason Trudeau supported it. Traveling crude oil by rail is terrible. It's expensive and there are spills/crashes all the time. The pipeline will be a lot safer and we won't have environmental oil spills all the time.
I get why Obama was against it, but it isn't as terrible as it sounds because arguments against it generally ignore the fact how terrible the way we ship crude oil from Canada to Houston generally is.
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