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PoliGAF 2016 |OT16| Unpresidented

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Kaiterra

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Nate explaining on The Daily Show about how people misinterpet percentages just makes me think of Fire Emblem or Super Robot Wars heh.
 
If one more person suggests to me that I'm not progressive enough or that the Democratic party needs purity tests I might scream.

Purity tests? Is this what we've reached now? I'm begging to understand how we lost. Republicans fell into line. We can't stop fighting reach other to ever accomplish anything.
 

Odrion

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alright, another revision:

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Totakeke

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As pointed out on twitter... this is some weak shit from the NYT.

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"Critics see". Fuck. Even Breitbart readers would acknowledge him as the voice of racism.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
To everyone feeling down/depressed: Get involved. For the first time in my life, I'm calling Senators'/Representatives' offices and letting them know how I feel. That alone has helped tremendously.

Find a local group you care about and start volunteering. Help the less fortunate. Work toward creating a better future for all. It won't seem as bad when you focus on making things better.
 
If one more person suggests to me that I'm not progressive enough or that the Democratic party needs purity tests I might scream.

Purity tests? Is this what we've reached now? I'm begging to understand how we lost. Republicans fell into line. We can't stop fighting reach other to ever accomplish anything.
What views do you have that make people believe you aren't progressive enough? Just curious
 
What views do you have that make people believe you aren't progressive enough? Just curious
I don't think Bernie Sanders is the Messiah and many of his plans are flawed from the most basic functional level. So, to quite a few people I know in real and now am encountering on GAF, I'm not progressive enough for the party going forward.

I am for single payer, I am for education reform, I am for regulation of the financial sector. But since I'm not for those things in one specific way, to people I thought were friends, I'm not any longer.
 
To everyone feeling down/depressed: Get involved. For the first time in my life, I'm calling Senators'/Representatives' offices and letting them know how I feel. That alone has helped tremendously.

Find a local group you care about and start volunteering. Help the less fortunate. Work toward creating a better future for all. It won't seem as bad when you focus on making things better.

I did the same. Warren's office let me know when she would have a meet and greet. Definitely going to that.
 

Slizeezyc

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To everyone feeling down/depressed: Get involved. For the first time in my life, I'm calling Senators'/Representatives' offices and letting them know how I feel. That alone has helped tremendously.

Find a local group you care about and start volunteering. Help the less fortunate. Work toward creating a better future for all. It won't seem as bad when you focus on making things better.

Same, it's been an eye opener, and it's been the silver lining of this for sure.
 
If one more person suggests to me that I'm not progressive enough or that the Democratic party needs purity tests I might scream.

Purity tests? Is this what we've reached now? I'm begging to understand how we lost. Republicans fell into line. We can't stop fighting reach other to ever accomplish anything.

Let's not forget the GOP gave up some easy elections during the Obama years because they nominated completely unacceptable candidates in key races like Delaware and Indiana. Can't wait to see the reactionary left make the same mistakes in 2018.
 
Let's not forget the GOP gave up some easy elections during the Obama years because they nominated completely unacceptable candidates in key races like Delaware and Indiana. Can't wait to see the reactionary left make the same mistakes in 2018.
Oh god the midterms are going to be a slaughter I really can't even think about them right now I'll get even more depressed.
 
I don't think Bernie Sanders is the Messiah and many of his plans are flawed from the most basic functional level. So, to quite a few people I know in real and now am encountering on GAF, I'm not progressive enough for the party going forward.

I am for single payer, I am for education reform, I am for regulation of the financial sector. But since I'm not for those things in one specific way, to people I thought were friends, I'm not any longer.

I see. I don't think Bernie is a messiah either.. I think what we need to keep in mind is a lot of people are trying to rationalize this loss and how to move forward. I get why some people think we need a full on socialist like Bernie moving forward but just remember that isn't true. Even people who where totally behind Bernie would still have been fully behind him even if he was more moderate on specific policy. People got behind him because he was genuine. Genuine and likeable and that I think generally overrides most policy.

Don't let people get you down because I'm not even for single payer (I don't think it is constitutional here) or a lot of the things Bernie stood for.. that stuff and purity testing on policy isn't as important as needing someone going forward who everyone on the dem side believes actually wants to good well for everyone.
 

jtb

Banned
Let's not forget the GOP gave up some easy elections during the Obama years because they nominated completely unacceptable candidates in key races like Delaware and Indiana. Can't wait to see the reactionary left make the same mistakes in 2018.

Grayson's gonna run for governor isn't he
 

kess

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It's one thing to make Trump look corrupt, unethical, and so forth, but if the Democrats are really serious, they'll have to develop a narrative of incompetence -- ex. this guy fucks up everything he touches. When Republicans are going for the Big Kills instead if killing entitlements by a thousand cuts, this should be a lot easier.
 

Sibylus

Banned
Anything a Canuck can do to help? (other than resisting the spread of populistic fascism to Canada, I think that part practically obligatory)
 

Donthizz#

Member
watched a TYT video after a long time, and one of their hosts starts calling Obama a monster just like Trump. these guys call themselves "progressives" smh
 

Diablos

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watched a TYT video after a long time, and one of their hosts starts calling Obama a monster just like Trump. these guys call themselves "progressives" smh
This is part of the problem. People can't tell the difference between an Obama or Clinton and Trump. How does this even happen, how can your critical thinking skills and general sensibilities become so dire
 
This is part of the problem. People can't tell the difference between an Obama or Clinton and Trump. How does this even happen, how can your critical thinking skills and general sensibilities become so dire
Because if enough people tell you that are the same. Eventually you believe them.
 

royalan

Member
This is part of the problem. People can't tell the difference between an Obama or Clinton and Trump. How does this even happen, how can your critical thinking skills and general sensibilities become so dire

YouTube gives every Tom, Dick and Moron a platform.

These guys aren't progressive. I will never cede them that label.

They're extremists, and they should be treated as such.
 
Anything a Canuck can do to help? (other than resisting the spread of populistic fascism to Canada, I think that part practically obligatory)

unfortunately i'm increasingly convinced that for people in my situation (where in spite of everything, migration may well be impossible because of health inadmissibility), there's only one thing a canuck's gonna be able to do to help
 

sphagnum

Banned
If you care enough about the legality of it, you might want to check with your municipality about whether they allow posters or flyers on telephone poles etc.

God this is all so messed up. I think I'm gonna check in with my favorite professor from college, who's Muslim. I used to go have lunch with him now and then for a few years after I graduated. Hope he's doing ok.
 

Drakeon

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Anything a Canuck can do to help? (other than resisting the spread of populistic fascism to Canada, I think that part practically obligatory)

Perhaps consider donating to some of the causes that are going to fight Trump? There's a good OP in the OT, with places to donate to stolen from the latest episode of Last Week Tonight. Beyond that? I'm not really sure, aside from making goddamn sure that Trudeau stays in power (although you guys only hold your elections every... 5 years?)
 
As pointed out on twitter... this is some weak shit from the NYT.

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"Critics see". Fuck. Even Breitbart readers would acknowledge him as the voice of racism.
The alt-right are just grassroots activists.
This is like all the euphemisms used when President-elect Trump talked about how you can grab them by the pussy when you're famous.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
So just curious, how are y'all holding up? I'm passed the shell shock phase, but I'm still in a daze about what transpired. I haven't looked at any of my typical left wing blogs and news outlets that I normally would frequent on a daily basis. Partly because there doesn't seem to be anything really consoling about the whole ordeal.

Wondering if anyone feels the same way.
 

Sibylus

Banned
unfortunately i'm increasingly convinced that for people in my situation (where in spite of everything, migration may well be impossible because of health inadmissibility), there's only one thing a canuck's gonna be able to do to help

How good are you at hide n seek?

Perhaps consider donating to some of the causes that are going to fight Trump? There's a good OP in the OT, with places to donate to stolen from the latest episode of Last Week Tonight. Beyond that? I'm not really sure, aside from making goddamn sure that Trudeau stays in power (although you guys only hold your elections every... 5 years?)

Definitely will take a look. Made my first political donation to the FairVote folks this year. The goal is proportional representation in the upcoming (hopefully fruitful) electoral reform committee reports. With Brexit and Trump immediately behind us... it kind of takes on even greater significance.
 

leroidys

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Well, back from my
nope, not gonna go there
two week ban today. Too gutted from the election to even make a joke about the results. Fuck. America is so fucked.

What do we start doing today to make sure our country keeps moving forward?
 
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