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[DenchDeckard]

I'm not sure what Hellblade 2 has to do with this game? They are not comparable in any way.

You sound like someone who lost £10 but happy because someone else did as well.

Nothing like that. Just goes to show Karma can show up anywhere at anytime.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Nothing like that. Just goes to show Karma can show up anywhere at anytime.

What karma?

 

[clarky]

Nothing like that. Just goes to show Karma can show up anywhere at anytime.

How old are you?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I see, couldn't figure out why you brought up such a random game. Did that actually get cancelled after the Beta? No Launch at all?

What he said

It was a live service game that had “design by committee” written all over it, did abysmal Concord-like numbers during its beta, then got canceled before they even released it. Do you see any parallels here?

 

[clarky]

What he said

Makes sense now, understandably i'd never heard of it.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Nothing like that. Just goes to show Karma can show up anywhere at anytime.

Thankfully the PS5 was well fed for the first half of the year so we only took a small amount of damage

 

[DenchDeckard]

How old are you?

I'm old and thats irrelevant.

the most important thing about this game is that it's a gaas game chasing trends. Let me elaborate on why I compared it to hellblade 2.

That game is an indie game made by a small studio that was on gamepass day one.

It got panned for days and weeks, mocked for its low sales numbers and players on steam. A single player game that's 6 hours long.

This is a big gaas title that's got adverts everywhere and is literally a game made to drag large numbers of players to sustain it. It's one thing to do is draw players in and retain them.

It's beyond flopped. I just highlighted that I don't think any of saw a timeline where this game would perform worse than that.

So, yeah. I think you're trying to do something here and it ain't it.

 

[MayauMiao]

• 1,038 users right now
• 1,666 24-hour peak
• 2,388 all-time peak 2 days ago

Sony right now:

...and that's with free beta, shared codes. What happens when it goes retail with full price?

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

The devs working on Hyenas were fucked over, hard. Because it never got past beta, most of the game is under wraps. So people who worked on it full time for several years can’t legally show any of the work they did on it. That’s a hell of a portfolio gap. At least Firewalk is past that stage.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

It got panned for days and weeks, mocked for its low sales numbers and players on steam. A single player game that's 6 hours long.

This is a big gaas title that's got adverts everywhere and is literally a game made to drag large numbers of players to sustain it. It's one thing to do is draw players in and retain them.

One thing to point out though, is that Hellblade 2 had been hyped up for a couple years by the Xbox fanboys as being a generation defining game.

Concord had barely any hype or marketing before the gameplay reveal and even after the reveal people were iffy on the game, with some people saying they would wait for the betas before writing the game off.

 

[tomato shrub]

Good. Now everyone buy Astro. Jim's legacy must die.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

...and that's with free beta, shared codes. What happens when it goes retail with full price?

i think that's what Sony is trying to furiously figure out as we speak.

 

[Katatonic]

The gameplay is tight. Not sure what has the same handful of folks still going in circles.

 

[CLW]

I'm in

 

[BlackTron]

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Good and bad news:

 

[clarky]

I'm old and thats irrelevant.

the most important thing about this game is that it's a gaas game chasing trends. Let me elaborate on why I compared it to hellblade 2.

That game is an indie game made by a small studio that was on gamepass day one.

It got panned for days and weeks, mocked for its low sales numbers and players on steam. A single player game that's 6 hours long.

This is a big gaas title that's got adverts everywhere and is literally a game made to drag large numbers of players to sustain it. It's one thing to do is draw players in and retain them.

It's beyond flopped. I just highlighted that I don't think any of saw a timeline where this game would perform worse than that.

So, yeah. I think you're trying to do something here and it ain't it.

They have absolutely zero in common, and are in no way comparable, like you have just pointed out.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

I find the Takeover modes fairly unplayable right now, with no team rebalancing and penalties for quitting. It’s bad enough in the Brawl modes.

 

[GHG]

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I was pretty convinced part way into the initial reveal if I am being honest

 

[winjer]

Sony should cancel the game and get a tax write off. Maybe save some money from this bomb.

 

[GHG]

Sony should cancel the game and get a tax write off. Maybe save some money from this bomb.

It's not even just about the money, it's reputational damage at this point.

People will be less inclined to give their next GAAS release a chance after this shitshow.

It's not even just about the game mechanics either, them going full woke with this makes me wonder who the fuck is working there that permanently resides on Resetera and thinks that's an accurate reflection of the world we live in.

Just refund anyone stupid enough to pre-order this and cancel the game.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

It's not even just about the money, it's reputational damage at this point.

People will be less inclined to give their next GAAS release a chance after this shitshow.

It's not even just about the game mechanics either, them going full woke with this makes me wonder who the fuck is working there that permanently resides on Resetera and thinks that's an accurate reflection of the world we live in.

Try telling their Discord that they need to drop the Woke agenda if they want at least the smallest chance to draw in players with non-Woke post-launch support.

Mods try to move away from the subject.

 

[clarky]

It's not even just about the money, it's reputational damage at this point.

People will be less inclined to give their next GAAS release a chance after this shitshow.

It's not even just about the game mechanics either, them going full woke with this makes me wonder who the fuck is working there that permanently resides on Resetera and thinks that's an accurate reflection of the world we live in.

Just refund anyone stupid enough to pre-order this and cancel the game.

Lot of pressure on Fairgame$ now lol.

That's bomb number 2 if you ask me.

 

[winjer]

There is a good chance this game will be a bigger bomb than Suicide Squad. This is an impressive achievement.

 

[Katatonic]

Good and bad news:

Cool. Played some really fun matches earlier. Now the game's kinda calling me. Gonna try this event when I get back to it.

 

[GHG]

Try telling their Discord that they need to drop the Woke agenda if they want at least the smallest chance to draw in players with non-Woke post-launch support.

Mods try to move away from the subject.

So they are going the cho-chamber feedback route that I've witnessed first hand many a time with previous Xbox title alphas and betas?

The people responsible won't have jobs in a few months if there's any justice.

 

[bender]

While the foundation seems solid enough and there are other problems (map design, an also-ran in a crowded market), I just can't imagine how anyone thought those character designs would appeal to...well...anyone. They do realize these games monetize by people wanting to buy costumes, emotes, and whatnot for characters, right?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Lot of pressure on Fairgame$ now lol.

That's bomb number 2 if you ask me.

I think they have a bigger chance if it's some type of Payday/Siege game.

 

[clarky]

I think they have a bigger chance if it's some type of Payday/Siege game.

Definitely and i quite like those types of games, but i got The Finals vibes from the trailer (only because of the $ i think lol) and that game is half decent and still struggling.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Man… I expected this to flop when I saw the reveal trailer, but it’s doing WAY worse than I imagined. This game is DOA.

I suspect higher ups are right now debating whether to launch it as F2P, delay it indefinitely, or just cancel it and write it off as a loss. They can’t be stupid enough to launch at $40 after seeing these #s, can they?

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Lot of pressure on Fairgame$ now lol.

That's bomb number 2 if you ask me.

Fairgames exists only because the surfer is surely banging Jade. Every living soul knows the game will bomb hard. It's the same as Hyenas, which was canceled before release.

I just hope Totoki-san and his crazy 88 enter their offices to deliver the severances.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

So they are going the cho-chamber feedback route that I've witnessed first hand many a time with previous Xbox title alphas and betas?

The people responsible won't have jobs in a few months if there's any justice.

If they really go down that path, they deserve it.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

I would love to be a fly on the wall of Sony HQ to see their reaction when based Japanese Astro outsells this western dogshit live service slop. Fairgames is also DOA and hopefully Marathon too.

This is their fate. This is what they chose. There is no turning back.

 

[Luipadre]

I would love to be a fly on the wall of Sony HQ to see their reaction when based Japanese Astro outsells this western dogshit live service slop. Fairgames is also DOA and hopefully Marathon too.

This is their fate. This is what they chose. There is no turning back.

It will be funny to see how big of a fail concord will be both critically and commercially and how successful astrobot will be 1 month later, a japanese ps2 era single player platformer game.

 

[Pedro Motta]

I'm old and thats irrelevant.

the most important thing about this game is that it's a gaas game chasing trends. Let me elaborate on why I compared it to hellblade 2.

That game is an indie game made by a small studio that was on gamepass day one.

It got panned for days and weeks, mocked for its low sales numbers and players on steam. A single player game that's 6 hours long.

This is a big gaas title that's got adverts everywhere and is literally a game made to drag large numbers of players to sustain it. It's one thing to do is draw players in and retain them.

It's beyond flopped. I just highlighted that I don't think any of saw a timeline where this game would perform worse than that.

So, yeah. I think you're trying to do something here and it ain't it.

Concord was never brought up as the second coming of Christ.

Concord has actual gameplay, whether you like or not.

Yes, you're a manchild.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

Well, at least if this bombs, that will put an end to the talk of pivoting Marathon towards hero shooter territory. So there’s that.

As for Fairgames, we aren’t exactly drowning in good heist games. Concord has felt like the weakest link since they revealed what type of game it was.

 

[bender]

I'm old and thats irrelevant.

the most important thing about this game is that it's a gaas game chasing trends. Let me elaborate on why I compared it to hellblade 2.

That game is an indie game made by a small studio that was on gamepass day one.

It got panned for days and weeks, mocked for its low sales numbers and players on steam. A single player game that's 6 hours long.

This is a big gaas title that's got adverts everywhere and is literally a game made to drag large numbers of players to sustain it. It's one thing to do is draw players in and retain them.

It's beyond flopped. I just highlighted that I don't think any of saw a timeline where this game would perform worse than that.

So, yeah. I think you're trying to do something here and it ain't it.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

Fairgames is also DOA and hopefully Marathon too.

Why are you hoping for games to be DOA? You haven’t even seen them, let alone played them, so why wish for failure?

 

[ReBurn]

Try telling their Discord that they need to drop the Woke agenda if they want at least the smallest chance to draw in players with non-Woke post-launch support.

Mods try to move away from the subject.

Does their Discord contain enough people to make this game successful?

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Does their Discord contain enough people to make this game successful?

No idea. Go count them.

 

[GHG]

That game is an indie game made by a small studio that was on gamepass day one.

Not an indie game, not from an indie studio.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

I blocked Killjoy-NL a couple weeks ago when it became obvious he’s not arguing in good faith and is just here to troll, gaslight, and deflect.

FFS stop giving this dipshit your attention. Block him and stop engaging.

Killjoy-NL is easily a top 10 NeoGAF poster. I love him.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Killjoy-NL is easily a top 10 NeoGAF poster. I love him.

 

[adamsapple]

...and that's with free beta, shared codes. What happens when it goes retail with full price?

 

[SJRB]

Yeah this game is done.

Not even when it's free people are interested, let alone when asking 40 bucks for it.

100% guaranteed they will pivot to a free to play model before launch.

 

[clarky]

100% guaranteed they will pivot to a free to play model before launch.

Yup, at this point they have no choice.

 

[STARSBarry]

Whats with Hyena's fella? did it steal you lunch or something?

The developers honestly thought a game with characters like this (including the middle one who was supposed to be some trans pop idol mega star) would appeal and sell.

After the beta SEGA just cancelled the entire thing, they knew what was coming. Apparently playstation aren't that self aware.

 

[clarky]

The developers honestly thought a game with characters like this (including the middle one who was supposed to be some trans pop idol mega star) would appeal and sell.

After the beta SEGA just cancelled the entire thing, they knew what was coming.

Yeah the guys explained it to me earlier in the thread, looks horrific.

 

[bender]

Killjoy-NL is easily a top 10 NeoGAF poster. I love him.