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[HeisenbergFX4]

...and that's with free beta, shared codes. What happens when it goes retail with full price?

 

[STARSBarry]

Yeah the guys explained it to me earlier in the thread, looks horrific.

Ironically it was far more unique compared to concord which is just Overwatch on counterstrike maps with movement speed set to 50%

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Sony deserves this faliure "learning experience"

 

[Sgt.Asher]

It’s even lagging behind where it was 24 hours ago. So much for that “weekend bump”. Guess people got better shit to do on their Saturday morning.

I went to a dinosaur museum, that was 40 dollars too.

 

[STARSBarry]

Sony deserves this faliure "learning experience"

Just watched this and yeah... I agree that essentially it's either DOA or they need to delay it and rework.

 

[nial]

I would love to be a fly on the wall of Sony HQ to see their reaction when based Japanese Astro outsells this western dogshit live service slop.

A hit right after a flop? I would be happy with that.
I think they very well know which one has bigger appeal, people like to point out that Concord was the opener of the SoP, but it closed with Astro Bot, which has been marketed quite decently, and that's before the proper marketing time begins. Heck, the game's trailer was pinned on PlayStation America's Twitter account for some days too.
Concord on the other hand, was left forgotten up until now when they needed to promote the beta, and now it will stay forgotten again before it launches.
But honestly? My biggest bet is that LEGO Horizon outsells both, on PS5 ALONE.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Costa Concordia

 

[POKEYCLYDE]

It's getting to be prime time on a Saturday, what the numbers looking like for what should be it's biggest day?

 

[GHG]

The only way to save this game is to offer it to Xbox as part of a gamepass day one deal in exchange for cancelling the Playstation version.

Personally, I don't know who this is helping by Concord not being on Xbox and available to gamepass subscribers.

 

[clarky]

It's getting to be prime time on a Saturday, what the numbers looking like for what should be it's biggest day?

Awful.

 

[dreamstation]

I expect to see all you guys that complained about the price in there on day one when they make it free to play

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Awful.

 

[Nydius]

It's getting to be prime time on a Saturday, what the numbers looking like for what should be it's biggest day?

Not great. They’ll be lucky if it reaches the all-time peak of 2363 again before the beta ends.

Steamcharts numbers at time of this post:
1,422 playing an hour ago
1,535 24-hour peak
2,388 all-time peak

 

[deriks]

Awful.

2388 people was the top

For a free game, holy shit, this is by far the biggest flop ever

 

[Zathalus]

Game needs to be delayed and reworked or it will be dead in under a year.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Game needs to be delayed and reworked or it will be dead in under a year.

Toss it in a fire. There's nothing to save.

Fire half your employees, change up leadership, and beg PlayStation to fund a new game.

 

[Nydius]

I expect to see all you guys that complained about the price in there on day one when they make it free to play

It’s completely free to play right now and no one gives a shit. The price isn’t the only problem this game has, but keep up that optimism! (Edit: And I doubt they’ll ever go truly F2P on PlayStation, they’ll almost certainly keep it behind the PS+ tiered paywall.)

 

[King Dazzar]

Not going well then. What a waste of cost and time. Not sure putting it on Xbox would have it fair any better. Maybe move it to a free to play model to try and salvage something?

 

[Saber]

I expect to see all you guys that complained about the price in there on day one when they make it free to play

Being free gonna make the pronoums go away? Or maybe stop the space chick from doing cringe dances so people here can call others manchildren?
Nah, I don't will change much.

 

[GHG]

Game needs to be delayed and reworked or it will be dead in under a year.

Nah just cancel it. Putting more resources in to this would be the definition of the sunk cost fallacy.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

2388 people was the top

For a free game, holy shit, this is by far the biggest flop ever

Some back of the napkin math… if 2388 gamers went on to buy the full game at $40, minus Steam’s cut, they might bring in enough revenue to cover 1 dev’s salary + benefits for 6 months.

 

[STARSBarry]

Some back of the napkin math… if 2388 gamers went on to buy the full game at $40, minus Steam’s cut, they might bring in enough revenue to cover 1 dev’s salary + benefits for 6 months.

what's Sony's cut then?

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

what's Sony's cut then?

Okay…. 4 months

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Toss it in a fire. There's nothing to save.

Fire half your employees, change up leadership, and beg PlayStation to fund a new game.

Firing half the staff sounds kind of discriminatory. Why not all of them?

 

[GHG]

Not going well then. What a waste of cost and time. Not sure putting it on Xbox would have it fair any better. Maybe move it to a free to play model to try and salvage something?

Nah, take it off playstation and put it on Xbox.

I want to see Miku, Dench and the chicken guy, etc attempt to pump this hard. I want to see the 10/10's from the fansites. At least then we would get some timeless entertainment from all this, because the game certainly isn't providing it.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Nah just cancel it. Putting more resources in to this would be the definition of the sunk cost fallacy.

Shit, Hermen needs to show up at Firewalk on Monday morning and shut the whole thing down. Just paying their salaries for a week will probably cost more than this game will make in its lifetime.

 

[Fake]

Sony should cancel the game and get a tax write off. Maybe save some money from this bomb.

They sure threw a lot of money into the fire cancelling TLOUS factions.

 

[GHG]

They sure threw a lot of money into the fire cancelling TLOUS factions.

Which looks like a more and more ridiculous decision by the day, especially when you consider the success of the TV show.

 

[Fake]

Who remember this gem? Sure Sony don't.

 

[T-0800]

Even if Concord is good, why would anyone want to leave the games they currently love over this one?

What does Concord has to offer that no other similar game doesn't?

I find the combat really rewarding.

 

[clarky]

Who remember this gem? Sure Sony don't.

That game was crap, but at least it tried something different.

 

[Neolombax]

Why are you hoping for games to be DOA? You haven’t even seen them, let alone played them, so why wish for failure?

Because people seem to think that if these devs were forced by Sony to make GaaS games, and if it were up to devs, they'd revive older beloved Sony titles and the world would be a better place. While I understand wanting to make your own legacy, the Concord sonewhat pushing DEI messages is limiting its potential. I like the game, but with these numbers for the beta, i dont want to buy into a slowly dying GaaS. I do wonder how many players are on PS5 during the beta.

 

[MayauMiao]

I find the combat really rewarding.

Every game that people love playing right now does this so again, what makes Concord so special?

 

[nial]

Good. Now everyone buy Astro. Jim's legacy must die.

Astro Bot AND Team Asobi are Jim's legacy as well.
Wait, considering that Concord started development in 2018, it may simply be Kodera's legacy.

 

[havoc00]

I really don’t think the game is bad ,but the numbers don’t lie, so if you are Sony what do you do at this point?

 

[Moridianae]

I really don’t think the game is bad ,but the numbers don’t lie, so if you are Sony what do you do at this point?

F2P is the only pivot that doesn't result in outright cancelation. But it looks DOA either way.

 

[Nydius]

I really don’t think the game is bad ,but the numbers don’t lie, so if you are Sony what do you do at this point?

On PC, pivot to F2P and drop the PSN linking requirement. Leave PSN linking as an option for people who want cross-play/cross-progression.

On PlayStation, not so sure because unless they make it completely F2P without a PS+ requirement, its competitors will always have an edge. So maybe start off by dropping it as a “freebie” on all PS+ tiers, see how that pans out. If it still isn’t moving the needle, go full F2P without PS+ needed to see if they can get a boost.

But even these options feel like slapping a band-aid on an arterial bleed.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

On PC, pivot to F2P and drop the PSN linking requirement. Leave PSN linking as an option for people who want cross-play/cross-progression.

On PlayStation, not so sure because unless they make it completely F2P without a PS+ requirement, its competitors will always have an edge. So maybe start off by dropping it as a “freebie” on all PS+ tiers, see how that pans out. If it still isn’t moving the needle, go full F2P without PS+ needed to see if they can get a boost.

But even these options feel like slapping a band-aid on an arterial bleed.

I said it before, but for new unproven GAAS shooters, they should always be F2P now. If it does great, look into maybe charging a price for the sequel, but as the first game in a series, the key is getting a solid sprawling user base that has spiderwebbed from people playing a free download.

Putting a new shooter behind a $40 (or even worse a $70 price) is going to be a hard slog unless it's really a groundbreaking new franchise. Other games can charge a price if it's been around forever and already charged a price for decades (COD).

 

[mayham2199]

Not sure what they were expecting or really going for here.

Honestly, the whole GAAS style trend is the worst. Like...you have Fortnite, Warzone, Apex, and arguably Overwatch(which has fallen off, but still).

Outside of those, you are not breaking into the market. Maybe a flash in the pan, but not long term.

You just can't; those games have it locked in and seemingly always will. And you're certainly not going to break into it with a game like this.

lol you say this while one of those gaas games is the best selling game this year. What are we doing here? Yes this game is mid and is going to fail. Sony themselves said they expected some of their gaas games to fail. No one makes 12 gaas titles with the expectation that they will all be hits.

I used to think the crazy doom and gloom on this site after any negative news was just for Xbox but I guess both companies get it around here.

 

[POKEYCLYDE]

Even if the game goes fully free to play, who is buying skins for these god awful characters?

 

[mayham2199]

On PC, pivot to F2P and drop the PSN linking requirement. Leave PSN linking as an option for people who want cross-play/cross-progression.

On PlayStation, not so sure because unless they make it completely F2P without a PS+ requirement, its competitors will always have an edge. So maybe start off by dropping it as a “freebie” on all PS+ tiers, see how that pans out. If it still isn’t moving the needle, go full F2P without PS+ needed to see if they can get a boost.

But even these options feel like slapping a band-aid on an arterial bleed.

They have no choice it just needs to go free to play. With heavy promotion on the store front they own. That’s the best option to save this game and the longer they take to get there the less likely it works.

 

[clarky]

Even if the game goes fully free to play, who is buying skins for these god awful characters?

No one. They are fucked either way.

 

[adamsapple]

Awful.

This is the publicly accessible open beta, not the one locked behind preorders?

 

[clarky]

They have no choice it just needs to go free to play. With heavy promotion on the store front they own. That’s the best option to save this game and the longer they take to get there the less likely it works.

Like Pokey said they can go free to play but you still need players to buy shit and considering the aesthetics of this game nobody will.

This is the publicly accessible open beta, not the one locked behind preorders?

Yup.

 

[GHG]

This is the publicly accessible open beta, not the one locked behind preorders?

Yes, it's free for everyone right now and nobody wants to waste their time with it.

 

[Mobilemofo]

Any good or a bit mid? I have pondered downloading it whilst watching some partridge.

 

[ReBurn]

No idea. Go count them.

The official community Discord server for Concord! | 3306 members.

I'm guessing that's a no.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

This is the publicly accessible open beta, not the one locked behind preorders?

Yup and so many last weekend said to wait for this weekend as numbers would jump

I haven't seen many defending it now

 

[clarky]

Any good or a bit mid? I have pondered downloading it whilst watching some partridge.

Very mid. Stick to Alan.

 

[havoc00]

Yup and so many last weekend said to wait for this weekend as numbers would jump

I haven't seen many defending it now

Th numbers are bad, I still think the game itself is ok.