figadapaura
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Hahaha yeah, but it won't. 😢
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Destiny |OT37| Everything Old is New Again
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Hahaha yeah, but it won't. 😢
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Thats the thing. Bad players who suck at sniping, do slightly better with AA. Thats ok.
The issue is, great players who rock at sniping are puahwd over the edge with AA. Suddenly theyre quick scoping and taking you out when you revive and just generally unbearable. Its not fun at all.
Removing AA and making it a true weapon of skill would be ok woth me.
I can't wrap my head around a player wanting things to be broken so people "feel special and stick around" ... like wut lol
Population is not a concern. Not even on XB1... it'll still be more populated than almost every other fps out there.
GlamFM
Banned
I think it will.
I´ve seen the game about a year ago. It was well into development.
I've been known to hang out by the jukebox but approach cautiously or I'll startle and run
j0hnny_385
Member
Guys,
A Sword Reforged
Essential Elements step
Is "WE'VE WOKEN THE HIVE" the best spot for Solar Ability Kills? Warlock master race here.
A Sword Reforged
Essential Elements step
Is "WE'VE WOKEN THE HIVE" the best spot for Solar Ability Kills? Warlock master race here.
Sky Walker
Member
Done HM twice "Warlock+Titan". Got a 319 lock chest but most importantly ... a 319 gauntlet for my Titan "Was stuck at 311 piece"! Thus:
Lord Saladin can go to hell after his shitty rank 5 packages >
Lord Saladin can go to hell after his shitty rank 5 packages >
figadapaura
Member
I don't feel special.
I feel like my sniping has gone to shit, actually. Maybe I'm just engaging people too much.
It's expected December though, so even the slightest delay will push it back to 2017. And I wouldn't even really mind a delay after the last game.
I feel like my sniping has gone to shit, actually. Maybe I'm just engaging people too much.
It's expected December though, so even the slightest delay will push it back to 2017. And I wouldn't even really mind a delay after the last game.
GlamFM
Banned
What i´ve seen was super ambitious. They really want to get it right. I have high hopes.
Guys,
A Sword Reforged
Essential Elements step
Is "WE'VE WOKEN THE HIVE" the best spot for Solar Ability Kills? Warlock master race here.
I like Siege of the Warmind's first room myself.
Tons of enemies, lots of Thrall spawns and easy to jump off to reset the encounter.
You also don't have to listen to the ghost.
Phaethon0017
Member
Have faith figadaspellcheck. Many believed I would never return to DGAF. But I showed them!
Darknyss09
Member
Siege of Warmind is better. You can jump off the side to reset the cp.Guys,
A Sword Reforged
Essential Elements step
Is "WE'VE WOKEN THE HIVE" the best spot for Solar Ability Kills? Warlock master race here.
mehrmantrout
Member
Add a delay to aiming down sights and slow down strafing would sort it out
GustyGardens
Banned
I caved and played Iron Banner last night; I didn't get the ship like I wanted, but I did get a 318 ghost shell! I'm okay with that. I've made it to 307 without raiding, so I'm pretty happy with that. I'm satisfied with the PvP end game at the moment.
figadapaura
Member
You sure did, Patabon.
It's been confirmed they raised the AA for all sniper rifles by tying AA stat to the Range stat in 2.0.
Darknyss09
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318... niceDone HM twice "Warlock+Titan". Got a 319 lock chest but most importantly ... a 319 gauntlet for my Titan "Was stuck at 311 piece"! Thus:
Lord Saladin can go to hell after his shitty rank 5 packages >
I did two runs earlier and the highest drop was 313. I got 2x 313 warlock chests on the same run.
KF is the fucking worst.
DrDrizzay101
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^yeah it is Darknyss. Last two weeks nearly half of my HM drops excluding Oryx have been "nothing."
Daaaamn. 318. Congrats. One of my guys might be able to sneak into 317 but I'm not sure. I'd probably have to infuse some stuff I'd rather not.
Shadow has less. Part of the problem is they've kept upping the ante. Even in HoW there were only a few very high AA snipers, now there are a lot of options.
Daaaamn. 318. Congrats. One of my guys might be able to sneak into 317 but I'm not sure. I'd probably have to infuse some stuff I'd rather not.
Shadow has less. Part of the problem is they've kept upping the ante. Even in HoW there were only a few very high AA snipers, now there are a lot of options.
I thought we lost you to the rapture.
Thats's how it feels to me.
Confirmed where? I don't remember seeing anything about that in the 2.0 patch notes, but it's been a while.
DrDrizzay101
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Crucible guy gave an interview and talked about it. Someone around here could probably dig it up.
j0hnny_385
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ToyMachine228
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I see a Sniper Rifle discussion going. Shotguns were definitely an issue but have been getting better as time goes on. The only issue I really have with them currently is Conspiracy Theory's range.
Sniper Rifles on the other hand are taking fun from the crucible for me. The main issue for me is the lack of de-scoping. If I come around a corner and get a burst into your head with a Pulse Rifle, you should not be able to blow my head off half before I can fire another burst. And when entire teams just dominate with sniper rifles it really makes the match and combat altogether unsatisfying. Because there isn't any. It just becomes getting shot in the head.
Sniper Rifles on the other hand are taking fun from the crucible for me. The main issue for me is the lack of de-scoping. If I come around a corner and get a burst into your head with a Pulse Rifle, you should not be able to blow my head off half before I can fire another burst. And when entire teams just dominate with sniper rifles it really makes the match and combat altogether unsatisfying. Because there isn't any. It just becomes getting shot in the head.
EJRobinson90
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What did you show them Pastrami? Those Psion Flayer NFs we did was one of the last things I did in Destiny.
If your range is higher, your aim assist is gonna be better. Snippet from the Crucible Radio podcast with Bungie's Senior Gameplay Designer Jon Weisnewski (https://twitter.com/sharkeatsman)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtkK9OagUnY
TearsOfBlood
Member
Phaethon broke Robinson confirmed.
Twilight Gap
Member
If Shadow of Veils was current in Year 2, it would be better than the Yasmin because it has a higher base range.
DrDrizzay101
Member
Defiance has barrels instead of scopes, it's the only sniper like that. They don't function the same way for AA.
Are you sure he didn't just mean range will be directly tied to your AA in the sense that at optimal range, you will get 100% of the weapon's AA. Out of range, your AA will take a hit. That video is long, and I'm not sure if context is discussed.
Either way, it still doesn't feel much different from me. I think I was actually a better sniper pre-2.0, but that's mostly because I had my precious The Supremacy. Oh how I miss thee...
Hw should dissect his brain first instead of Blaze.
I'm terrible at clash. I can go positive in control and skirmish. But in clash... In iron banner I went negative for 10+ games. On my last game I pulled out my defiance of Yasmin instead of my invective. 3.6 kdr and on top of my team. I was in a fireteam of 6, so I don't think my scrubbiness matched me with easier opponents (everyone but me in the group goes flawless weekly). I think that will be my go to secondary until they nerf it...
I kind of wish they would leave them alone for PVE. I enjoy hitting my snipes in the raid and strikes for a change.
I can join, booting up the ps4
Would you be fine with how snipers were back when Destiny launched?
Well, I'm glad you don't give a shit, but not every shooter has to be balanced towards the core. MW2 was one of the most fun games I ever played and it was relatively unbalanced with controlled chaos.
It's not 50/50. I play with Cha a lot, and he essentially wins every sniper battle. AA helps beginners, but there is no way they can dominate a game. Sniping still takes effort - a lot more than shotgunning (the prominent choice).
I've been playing since the beta on Xbox and still love it. Don't really see anything "broken."
Exactly the point I am trying to make: pros will be pros no matter what. What we have now is just an easier sniper for beginners. I'd be okay with Bungie changing it to initial levels, but not because of the rationale presented here.
Ok waiting
No, it means that the higher the range value, the higher the aim assist for any gun.
Since snipers have the highest range they have the most aim assist.
Snipers were absolutely fine in pre-2.0 and they screwed it royally in 2.0.
Twilight Gap
Member
Looking at the weapon chart again and it looks like LDR has more aim assist than 1000 Yard Stare.
I know these charts are subject to revisions at any point (Her Benevolence was knocked down like 20 points in the summer after everyone started chasing it for having the best AA in House of Wolves), but that stat is hard to swallow given how much easier the 1000 Yard Stare is to use.
The way aim assist scales with range is probably the main cause for Snipers feeling stronger than they were before.
Think everyone in this thread already knows I want the game to revert back to 1.0.2.2 verbatim and go from there.
I know these charts are subject to revisions at any point (Her Benevolence was knocked down like 20 points in the summer after everyone started chasing it for having the best AA in House of Wolves), but that stat is hard to swallow given how much easier the 1000 Yard Stare is to use.
The way aim assist scales with range is probably the main cause for Snipers feeling stronger than they were before.
Think everyone in this thread already knows I want the game to revert back to 1.0.2.2 verbatim and go from there.
This must be a meme by now.
Hm, I dunno. I'm mostly fine with it the way it is now.
"The higher the range, the higher the AA" doesn't necessarily mean "over base AA"...unless they explicitly said that. I have no idea.
gutter_trash
Banned
just don't kill the yellow Knight in the control room after beating the waves of Thralls. Jump down off the rails
gutter_trash
Banned
Snipers need PvP nerfing, they are ruining PvP IMO
bring Auto Rifles back and let people just have fun
bring Auto Rifles back and let people just have fun
Looking at the weapon chart again and it looks like LDR has more aim assist than 1000 Yard Stare.
I know these charts are subject to revisions at any point (Her Benevolence was knocked down like 20 points in the summer after everyone started chasing it for having the best AA in House of Wolves), but that stat is hard to swallow given how much easier the 1000 Yard Stare is to use.
The way aim assist scales with range is probably the main cause for Snipers feeling stronger than they were before.
Think everyone in this thread already knows I want the game to revert back to 1.0.2.2 verbatim and go from there.
Yeah I know, it's just feels like the snipers stayed the same, but that was already looked at.
Twilight Gap
Member
PvP peaked for me last November and i'll take that to my grave.
Besides, even if Sniper aim assist hasn't gone up, that doesn't mean it shouldn't go down. They're clearly on top of the food chain right now and we all know what Bungie's favorite word is.
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