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I played my first dota 2 game with human players today and got 15 kills with 0 deaths so I'm probably gonna get picked up by one of the teams tbf

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

I played my first dota 2 game with human players today and got 15 kills with 0 deaths so I'm probably gonna get picked up by one of the teams tbf

Time to quit, it's all downhill from here.

My first game was 0-11 on WR @_@

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I played my first dota 2 game with human players today and got 15 kills with 0 deaths so I'm probably gonna get picked up by one of the teams tbf

Well done bro. Keep kicking ass.

 

[Randdalf]

Lordy, I thought I'd give solo ranked another go, a while since I've played it.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1130658124

How can a team be so disastrously bad?

 

[shira]

eg
sumail, ppd, fear, universe, aui

secret
rtz, zai, fly, notail, hanni

c9
puppey, kuroky, pieliedie, bone7, ee

How much would I get from an Heroic Foreteller's Drape from TKO american finals, EG Mason scoring a fb against TC from Liquid and a Heroic Capelet of the Wild Wind injuly LGD scoring a tripe kill against Newbee(dunno what tournament, it was from september 2014)?

People usually want weapons as heroics, so unless you know a serious mason or injuly fanboy probably nothing.

 

[Zoon]

I played my first dota 2 game with human players today and got 15 kills with 0 deaths so I'm probably gonna get picked up by one of the teams tbf

youarealreadydead.jpg
The system now thinks you are smurfing and you will get matched with professional players

 

[M.D]

eg
sumail, ppd, fear, universe, aui

secret
rtz, zai, fly, notail, hanni

c9
puppey, kuroky, pieliedie, bone7, ee




People usually want weapons as heroics, so unless you know a serious mason or injuly fanboy probably nothing.

wut

 

[Dreams-Visions]

eg
sumail, ppd, fear, universe, aui

secret
rtz, zai, fly, notail, hanni

c9
puppey, kuroky, pieliedie, bone7, ee

shira what is this

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

eg
sumail, ppd, fear, universe, aui

secret
rtz, zai, fly, notail, hanni

c9
puppey, kuroky, pieliedie, bone7, ee




People usually want weapons as heroics, so unless you know a serious mason or injuly fanboy probably nothing.

S4 and Fata dead

 

[Razzer]

His EG lineup is actually quite plausible.

Dem Secret and C9 lineups tho...

 

[Dreams-Visions]

S4 and Fata dead

 

[Shorty11857]

So looks like The Evany (Fly's girlfriend) is no longer Secret's manager

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Lordy, I thought I'd give solo ranked another go, a while since I've played it.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1130658124

How can a team be so disastrously bad?

Your team died 9 times to non-heroes


How the fuck?

 

[Randdalf]

Your team died 9 times to non-heroes


How the fuck?

Pudge and Techies can both suicide.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

His EG lineup is actually quite plausible.

Dem Secret and C9 lineups tho...

Guys we just kick S4 and get H4nni, it totally makes sense

wait what

Your team died 9 times to non-heroes


How the fuck?

Both Pudge and Techies can commit suicide, it's plausible.

 

[Anno]

Lordy, I thought I'd give solo ranked another go, a while since I've played it.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1130658124

How can a team be so disastrously bad?

Oy, that OD. Against that lineup, too. Only BB was ever going to have somewhat respectable int.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Pudge and Techies can both suicide.

Good point, forgot about that

 

[sleverfunk]

It think rtz is going to c9.
I've noticed Envy playing more mid heroes and rtz safelane heroes.

 

[nilbog21]

i don't think rtz was having fun playing with EG and it really took a toll on his motivation/amibition/skill. I think everyone on EG is pretty serious and not really the most outgoing/fun personalities so i think him leaving EG is the best thing to do for someone like him.

 

[Monochromaticx]

Aui
Rtz
Ee
Singsing
Pld

Spoiler

I definitely deserved to get bashed there I started the tp way too late.

For webm I use shadowplay+webmconverter.

Cool thanks!

 

[Dreams-Visions]

i don't think rtz was having fun playing with EG and it really took a toll on his motivation/amibition/skill. I think everyone on EG is pretty serious and not really the most outgoing/fun personalities so i think him leaving EG is the best thing to do for someone like him.

I disagree. Walking away from a stable situation with consistent players who produce consistent results always feels like a mistake to me in the world of gaming where turnover is high and consistency is fleeting.

They had enough consistent talent to be around for years making really good money together. The next team he moves to might be a functional downgrade. And in fact, being anywhere but on what would be considered the best team in the West would be a downgrade in earning power for him.

 

[Raytow]

People usually want weapons as heroics, so unless you know a serious mason or injuly fanboy probably nothing.

Sup' Einbroch.

 

[KingKong]

T-Mobile.Arteezy
T-Mobile.Zai
T-Mobile.EternalEnvy
T-Mobile.PieLieDie
T-Mobile.b0ne7

 

[kasane]

Singsing is trash offlane dunno why people want him on a ee, rtz lineup

 

[sixghost]

Singsing is trash offlane dunno why people want him on a ee, rtz lineup

Becuase he was playing offlane when they won MLG.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Becuase he was playing offlane when they won MLG.

Wasn't that when Mirana was really good and he pretty much only played that? I might be misremembering.

 

[kasane]

Wasn't that when Mirana was really good and he pretty much only played that? I might be misremembering.

yeah when he played mirana he was good and when he played clockwork he was utter trash

Becuase he was playing offlane when they won MLG.

you mean playing mirana

 

[Anno]

That Kunkka game was good. That might have been when Artour played ET who may have gone offlane, I forget.

 

[Drkirby]

I disagree. Walking away from a stable situation with consistent players who produce consistent results always feels like a mistake to me in the world of gaming where turnover is high and consistency is fleeting.

They had enough consistent talent to be around for years making really good money together. The next team he moves to might be a functional downgrade. And in fact, being anywhere but on what would be considered the best team in the West would be a downgrade in earning power for him.

I don't think the players got along with each other, which seems like a fair enough reason to split up. You can only go so far with half the team hating each other.

 

[kasane]

That Kunkka game was good. That might have been when Artour played ET who may have gone offlane, I forget.

nah it was et mid and solo safelane doom

 

[sixghost]

yeah when he played mirana he was good and when he played clockwork he was utter trash


you mean playing mirana

He was 4-1 with clock in that tournament, including games in the finals and semifinals.

 

[kasane]

He was 4-1 with clock in that tournament, including games in the finals and semifinals.

because winning tells the story about the whole game

 

[Razzer]

Arteezy matched against EE, they casually discuss item builds whilst playing, lol.

 

[StrongArmSteady]

LOL RTZ just lost to EE in a pub game..

 

[TerryLee81]

It uses a hidden mmr. Everyone has losing streaks every now and then and I learned to call it a night after two losses in a row.

Supposedly it works exactly the same as in Ranked, you just don't get to see any of the math.

If you have Dotabuff it'll record what matchmaking bracket the match was in, but it's not necessarily a good indicator of overall skill within the game because there's a huge amount of variance.

Thanks guys. Maybe I should start playing ranked. I've played 600 games now, with about 300 wins. Does everyone use voice chat in ranked?

 

[Madouu]

^ no.

 

[Monochromaticx]

I am a believer in support zeus now.SO MUCH FUN!

 

[Acinixys]

I called Suma1l like two weeks ago. Am I a doto insider now?

Hes pretty fun to watch

That Storm Spirit TP start while in ball lighting to get a kill and TP instantly after was pretty legit

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

I wish we'd get an insight into why the changes happened.

 

[StrongArmSteady]

^ RTZ loves Jacky Mao/Lost Passion , Zai detests Fear.

 

[TerryLee81]

Who's this Arteezy guy?

 

[Chris R]

Hes pretty fun to watch

That Storm Spirit TP start while in ball lighting to get a kill and TP instantly after was pretty legit

Problem is, for every kill like that he makes he dives too deep for another. He will be good one day, just hope his performance this upcoming year doesn't turn teams off him in the future.

edit: I claimed he'll win TI by 7 so I hope he doesn't let me down! http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=144486907&postcount=7095

And pure support games against Techies suck, because I'm constantly poor Finally got my Aghs on WD though and my constant bitching that viper needed a manta to push up into their base got us the win. Just took an hour like most techies games when your team keeps running into the mines you ping out and deward.

 

[Anno]

Man, SirActionSlacks really loves Techies. I know he's always excitable but hell.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

I disagree. Walking away from a stable situation with consistent players who produce consistent results always feels like a mistake to me in the world of gaming where turnover is high and consistency is fleeting.

They had enough consistent talent to be around for years making really good money together. The next team he moves to might be a functional downgrade. And in fact, being anywhere but on what would be considered the best team in the West would be a downgrade in earning power for him.

I agree with this 100%

 

[pompidu]

Mute button is the greatest feature of Dota2.

 

[NormalFish]

I agree with this 100%

I think the issue with that is that in a field like this that's strongly dependent on interpersonal relationships, if you're not enjoying yourself not only are you hindering your ability to play to your best, but subsequently your financial position as well. Additionally, it seems very unlikely that someone like Zai or RTZ will end up with a team that isn't T1. They're two of the best players in the world and have the pick of the lot when it comes to contracts and teammates.

Mute button is the greatest feature of Dota2.

truth facts.

 

[kasane]

so will ee and rtz reunite now or what

 

[Wok]

I have just had one of my shortest game of Dota 2: a defeat, in about 22 minutes, with no abandon or afk.

So I had a look at all my previous shortest matches (a handful in fact) to try to find a trend. I think the team which manages to beat me in 20-22 min looks somewhat like this (a lot of ranged heroes, one melee):

• Pudge / Slark / Spirit Breaker: ganking
• Vengeful Spirit: strong push, and stun
• Necrophos / Silencer: can destroy the lane
• Crystal Maiden / Rubick: stun for early kills
• Drow Ranger / Nature Prophet / Shadow Shaman / Sniper: strong push and hero damage

The trend was also that the defeated team chose 3-4 fragile carry heroes and 1-2 supports with no stun.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

I think the issue with that is that in a field like this that's strongly dependent on interpersonal relationships, if you're not enjoying yourself not only are you hindering your ability to play to your best, but subsequently your financial position as well. Additionally, it seems very unlikely that someone like Zai or RTZ will end up with a team that isn't T1. They're two of the best players in the world and have the pick of the lot when it comes to contracts and teammates.


truth facts.

That's where team managers come in and earn their money. More than just organising schedules, its to mediate between the parties to ensure that conflict doesnt get in the way of performance.

But if people were set on leaving, you cant change that. Strange theyd rather lose the 2 than do their best to appease them (of course Im sure they did their best just speculation based on nothing but conjecture).

 

[NormalFish]

That's where team managers come in and earn their money. More than just organising schedules, its to mediate between the parties to ensure that conflict doesnt get in the way of performance.

But if people were set on leaving, you cant change that. Strange theyd rather lose the 2 than do their best to appease them (of course Im sure they did their best just speculation based on nothing but conjecture).

I think it's likely that organization like EG have a level of unspoken seniority bias. Someone like Fear gets preferential treatment even though he isn't more valuable as a player.