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Heroes of the Storm |OT2| Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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Yeah after playing league for a while i wasnt ready at all for how blizz treats heroes but it's kind of fascinating
Lets talk about mac's tier list
I dont really play the game as much as i used to but on paper i think it's a pretty good list. I think his tier 2/3 warrior choices go too all-in on playmaking and that if leoric is 3 then johanna is also 3
Also he used to be really keen on putting lunara down as a specialist, i dunno if he changed his mind or just didnt stay consistent w/ the previous list
I really like that he puts malf over monk, i think thats a ballsy thing to do
Also w/ whats currently popular i can see illidan at tier 1 but i personally think he's tier 2
Yeah after playing league for a while i wasnt ready at all for how blizz treats heroes but it's kind of fascinating
Lets talk about mac's tier list
I dont really play the game as much as i used to but on paper i think it's a pretty good list. I think his tier 2/3 warrior choices go too all-in on playmaking and that if leoric is 3 then johanna is also 3
Also he used to be really keen on putting lunara down as a specialist, i dunno if he changed his mind or just didnt stay consistent w/ the previous list
I really like that he puts malf over monk, i think thats a ballsy thing to do
Also w/ whats currently popular i can see illidan at tier 1 but i personally think he's tier 2
brickwalker0
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when's gaf gonna get together to make a tier list?
giant bomb GOTY style with a bunch of nerds arguing with arbitrary reasoning.
giant bomb GOTY style with a bunch of nerds arguing with arbitrary reasoning.
all i have are guitar pedals
i dont think dehaka is that bad but he does feel niche compared to what's currently available, the one time I tried him I really felt the loss of no mount
I think his minion dmg talent is go-to, but I can kinda see why ppl want the movement speed cuz everyone in the game goes fast
also I didn't realize na summer regionals were in may? so nvt has a decent amount of time to get their shit together, i expect them to be really competitive for it as long as they dont just crush scrims one week and are like nah we're good np
oh im listening to mac's tier list and he still considers lunara a specialist
i dont think dehaka is that bad but he does feel niche compared to what's currently available, the one time I tried him I really felt the loss of no mount
I think his minion dmg talent is go-to, but I can kinda see why ppl want the movement speed cuz everyone in the game goes fast
also I didn't realize na summer regionals were in may? so nvt has a decent amount of time to get their shit together, i expect them to be really competitive for it as long as they dont just crush scrims one week and are like nah we're good np
oh im listening to mac's tier list and he still considers lunara a specialist
tier 1 (non map specific first pick material): li ming, falstad, thrall,illidan
tier 2 (non-assassin first pick material): muradin, etc, zagara, xul
tier 3 (I wouldn't be mad if you picked these heroes): abathur, anubarak, brightwing, chen, chogall, diablo, greymane, johanna, monk, leo, medic, lunara, malf, raynor, rehgar, sonya, stitches, sylvanas, tass, tyreal, tyrande, uther, valla, zeratul
tier 4 (I question your judgement): artanis, arthas, azmodan, dehaka, gazlowe, jaina, kt, kerrigan, lili, nazeebo, butcher, lost vikings, tychus.
tier 5 (please don't): murky, nova, rexxar, hammer
tier 2 (non-assassin first pick material): muradin, etc, zagara, xul
tier 3 (I wouldn't be mad if you picked these heroes): abathur, anubarak, brightwing, chen, chogall, diablo, greymane, johanna, monk, leo, medic, lunara, malf, raynor, rehgar, sonya, stitches, sylvanas, tass, tyreal, tyrande, uther, valla, zeratul
tier 4 (I question your judgement): artanis, arthas, azmodan, dehaka, gazlowe, jaina, kt, kerrigan, lili, nazeebo, butcher, lost vikings, tychus.
tier 5 (please don't): murky, nova, rexxar, hammer
jaundicejuice
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You would question the judgement of someone picking Li-li? Even though Blinding Wind and Herbal Cleanse are arguably super useful abilities/talents given the current flavours of the month?
yeah I don't think he's great either, he feels pretty niche to me and I feel like his spikes aren't great, + it sucks that you are basically forced into the heal talent at 4, but I mean his e is really great if you have something you need to protect. like as a healer he isnt that great until 10 so you kind of have to wait a while, but utility-wise he's decent.
I dunno, man. She's back to being the top winrate support hero on hotslogs. Looking at only Platinum and higher league, she's at 52.7%, with Uther at the bottom of the supports with 48.3%. That's enough for me to be fine with someone taking her (as long as the enemy comp isn't loaded to the brim with interrupts for jugs). And Nazeebo, who you've put in your tier 4 is at 57.1% in Plat league and above.
Hotslogs winrate isn't everything, of course, but those values are significant.
I know these two heroes aren't picked in the competitive scene, but solo-HL is a different world.
Oh i just thought something w/r/t naz and lili
Like both these heroes are in-motion heroes who dont really have to sit still to get anything done and are relatively safe because of this. Could it be that their consistently higher winrates is related w/ them not being "the reason" a team loses, like not feeding early or just giving up leads
Doesnt really make them good and they arent great at making plays or winning fights, but the "not the reason we lost" thing is kinda appealing to me atm
Like both these heroes are in-motion heroes who dont really have to sit still to get anything done and are relatively safe because of this. Could it be that their consistently higher winrates is related w/ them not being "the reason" a team loses, like not feeding early or just giving up leads
Doesnt really make them good and they arent great at making plays or winning fights, but the "not the reason we lost" thing is kinda appealing to me atm
I think many times those heroes are the reason teams lose. Not because they're doing poorly, just because they're low impact heroes. Like gazlowe use to be, maybe still is, but there's just a point in the game where you're like damn I wish we had like any other hero.
But I guess yea, they're low impact in both ways, don't really make you lose, but they're also not really making you win either.
But I guess yea, they're low impact in both ways, don't really make you lose, but they're also not really making you win either.
It goes back to my idea that the population up to masters (which has a too-wide range) arent great at the game; uther is a very high-impact hero but suffers in hl and is often picked in competitive for example, but this could also just as well be that playmaking isnt the shit and thrall is weaker than li ming
Also i realize im being too harsh on both lili and naz here
Also i realize im being too harsh on both lili and naz here
I don't know. I think in a case by case basis high impact heroes are gonna be the better choice but over the wide margin, when you don't have the specific circumstances to consider, the lower impact heroes end up with higher win rates because they're easier to play
Like I wouldn't be mad if someone picked li li, but I'd definetly wonder why...
It's like painting your house beige.
Like I wouldn't be mad if someone picked li li, but I'd definetly wonder why...
It's like painting your house beige.
When Li Li is #1, all's right with the world.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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So many heroes at lvl 1. So many of those I don't even wanna lvl. But I guess I'm gonna try out TLV again.
Edit: It's actually just 4 excluding Cho'Gall, including Dehaka. TLV, Stitches and Butcher.
Edit: It's actually just 4 excluding Cho'Gall, including Dehaka. TLV, Stitches and Butcher.
What exactly is this combo supposed to do?
I thought you were done, sucka.
sobaka770
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I think Lili is actually very good unless you play against a pro coordinated team. Her blind is awesome against Thrall/Illidan dives, her healing is reasonably good and she can deal some potent damage and chase. Her downsides is lack of burst healing outside of her ult which can be easily interrupted by a stun. This is why she never gets any love in competitive.
However, in Hero League when the enemy is low on stuns she's a good pick.
BTW, the UI for HotD looks nice and clean.
However, in Hero League when the enemy is low on stuns she's a good pick.
BTW, the UI for HotD looks nice and clean.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
He's so dull to play when you're not laning.
MillionStabs
Banned
Lootcrate sent me a "free Heroes of the Storm digital character and skin code", and I don't play HOTS.
Anyone want it? Is it even good?
Anyone want it? Is it even good?
I could use one for my friend's kids account depending on what it is- which character is it?
MillionStabs
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I don't know what it is, the email is all Greek to me.
Maybe Team Brawler? I'm seeing that word in there.
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