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Heroes of the Storm |OT2| Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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It was on front page for a day or two.
I wouldn't get too excited. Took nearly a year to get bans. Season will come next. I'd be pretty shocked if we saw swaps this year considering we haven't heard anything about them in a positive light from Blizz IIRC. It's fine without it right now IMO, though it'd be a nice addition.
I wouldn't get too excited. Took nearly a year to get bans. Season will come next. I'd be pretty shocked if we saw swaps this year considering we haven't heard anything about them in a positive light from Blizz IIRC. It's fine without it right now IMO, though it'd be a nice addition.
Yeah i dont expect it anytime soon or anything, just the dialogue on the topic seemed kinda muted to me i thought itd pop off like a week after bans were shipped w/o it
For pro play they should prob prioritize a tournament client running the correct patch (dont think they are tho) since there is already a third-party solution for custom game drafting
For pro play they should prob prioritize a tournament client running the correct patch (dont think they are tho) since there is already a third-party solution for custom game drafting
Fixed2BeBroken
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if you were lucky to get in one of the cellphone deals before, you were able to get gcu for 2 years for like 4 bucks. i ended up getting like 12 years.
I also think they would probably be more concerned with a tournament client/server than the swaps currently. Swaps will come, even if it's only for tournaments at first. It's hard to tell what their stance is on it, but I feel like they'd say it adds more complications for players and it's likely that the vast majority of players DGAF about it or even know it should be there.
Personally I cringe to think about swapping with some the randoms I see and that's in all rank 1 games, even though I know when it works it'd make the experience better. Can't imagine what it'd be like if you were at average MMR and rank ~25ish.
Personally I cringe to think about swapping with some the randoms I see and that's in all rank 1 games, even though I know when it works it'd make the experience better. Can't imagine what it'd be like if you were at average MMR and rank ~25ish.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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"focus morales" turned into "ban morales", cringe rising exponentially. Some people rather face illidan than morales apparently.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
I love playing Rexxar, but yes you are right, he is a lot of work to play for little results. I played with him a bit last night after patching, honestly he doesn't feel any different to me, lol.
thekillermuffin
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That's because he wasn't updated yet, the patch is today. Personally excited, I love me some Rexxar but will be the first to admit that he isn't exactly the best hero.
The bans make it a much better experience at our level (and probably even better at yours, TBH). You really should get into it as much as you talk about how the game needs those things.
You got fooled by Ketch's premature patchulation. Don't worry, he got me as well. Patch isn't til today.
I'm trying out cardstone right now, then Friday I'll be all-in on the new Diablo season and Overwatch next week
Also we need a cardstone hero, every single button is a random ability from any hero in the game and the ult just selects a random hero to die and the second ult randomizes all the heroes on both teams to different ones. Useful when you know you got a bad draft. I feel like HotS is missing the RNG element that makes HS so fun and totally not frustrating.
brickwalker0
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yeah i'm not doing the open beta after being in the closed beta from the beginning (stealth brag).
but i will be playing the hell out of HoTS tonight if anyone wants to join me, will be playing Lunara mostly to get master skin.
but i will be playing the hell out of HoTS tonight if anyone wants to join me, will be playing Lunara mostly to get master skin.
Something weird is up with hero league matchmaking. I've just had two games on th run where we only got 85 points for winning, which I haven't seen in *months*. in the second game, two players in our group were unranked (and they weren't partied together). We had a rank 1 and a rank 3 in our party, that simply shouldn't be happening at all.
Is Rexar up?
just played him. seems pretty good. but he always seemed pretty good to me.
the extra leash range is pretty good. chasing people/attacking people from the fog on BOE was really good. total freedom to harass the back line, got a couple kills that way too, and then I could tell that the other team was specifically looking for rexxar. "Like get this fucking bear off me!" and then ETC goes around checking fog for me.
still doesn't feel like a warrior though obviously.
also, zoning out an entire team with the bear is still one of the best feelings in the game.
the extra leash range is pretty good. chasing people/attacking people from the fog on BOE was really good. total freedom to harass the back line, got a couple kills that way too, and then I could tell that the other team was specifically looking for rexxar. "Like get this fucking bear off me!" and then ETC goes around checking fog for me.
still doesn't feel like a warrior though obviously.
also, zoning out an entire team with the bear is still one of the best feelings in the game.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Snitch making his glorious return to THH.
jaundicejuice
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I keep logging in and checking the store for Shadowpaw Lili. 
I keep logging in and checking the store for Shadowpaw Lili.
She's hiding all ninja like, so you have to find her to buy her
nope. sadly. it's like 3 days open beta for one thing, 6 days if your special.
Brawndo Addict
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"We found that Tracer is doing just a tad too much damage relative to other heroes who fill similar roles. We love that players have found so many ways to incorporate her unique play-style into the game and we want to preserve her identity and keep the core mobility of the hero intact. To that end here are some small adjustments that we think will bring Tracer's damage more in line with other assassins while keeping her fast-moving and pulse-pounding playstyle intact."
Insert huge nerfs ala Li-Ming.
Having to actually guess what they do is much harder. Probably just increase reload time, reduce damage/charge speed of pulse bomb. Maybe reduce Echo to 1 charge but I seriously doubt it.
jaundicejuice
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Rewind should be an ult, not a baseline skill.
scoobs
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nerf lvl 1, 7, and 20 recall talents. Not sure how you nerf em', but recall is what makes her OP, and without changing the core ability the only way to really nerf is to hit the popular recall talents. Maybe increase cooldown on it by 10 seconds or so so she can't just do whatever the hell she wants all over the map and get away with it
jaundicejuice
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One of the things that sort of frustrates me about hero design in HotS is they don't seem to be designing new heroes or tuning old ones with the idea that some should hard-counter others. Like Butcher should be a hard-counter to someone as crazy mobile as Tracer but even if he does manage to land a charge, which can be broken quite easily, the likelihood he can do anything after, even with Lamb, is unlikely because Tracer can blink away so damned quickly.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Remember when Tracer wasn't oppressive nor broken, she was fine.
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Li Ming vindicated
I've actually stopped using the recall talent at level 1 for the moment. I've been trying out the Tracer rounds ability and finishing it a lot more useful than I originally thought. Bushes completely mess with her ability to do damage as she has no way to of revealing anyone, so it really lowers her damage running into a bush. Tracer rounds eliminates that,mparticulary on maps like Battlefield or Towers where there's constant fighting around bushes.
scoobs
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Don't get me started oh MingLee.
I do find it funny when a new OP hero releases there is a vocal group of players, who are having a ton of fun pooping on people in HL with that hero, that come out in droves on the message boards saying they're not OP. I guess they just want to enjoy the OP hero as long as is humanely possible so they'll defend them forever.
Happened with Xul, MingLee, and Tracer. Even with older heroes, the Nova apologists were the worst. "Guys if you're dying to Nova in literally .01 seconds you need to get better at the game! Watch the ground for her shimmer!"
I think Tracer is slightly different to Li-Ming and xul though, although clearly she's at broken levels right now and needs nearing.
With Li-Ming, she was simply flat up broken with Ess of Johan and her damage levels. There was no question Ess needed to go, and there was no question she dealt too much damage - she was one shooting over half the heroes in the game just by landing her insanely easy to hit abilities. With Xul, he was just tuned too well across the board - his damage was again massively out of line, and was swiftly nerfed down.
With Tracer, it's harder to pinpoint the issue. There's been lots of suggestions and ideas, but ultimately she doesn't blow people up like the other two did, her heroic doesn't win team fights, and she has very legitimate weaknesses built into her kit and some really powerful hard counters which the others didn't have. Personally I think they should drop the blink charges on her recall talent to 1 charge only, and then possibly look at a tiny nerd to her damage.
My own experience has been a 50% win rate with tracer in games - and weirdly in hero league I seem to have a 100% win rate against her. Maybe I've been lucky because so far people just keep picking the heroes who are really good against her in my games (Zeratul, Lunara, Raynor, Valla, Chen, etc).
I absolutely agree with those win numbers she needs needing, but do feel she's in a different place to the other two (who simply were overturned on release).
With Li-Ming, she was simply flat up broken with Ess of Johan and her damage levels. There was no question Ess needed to go, and there was no question she dealt too much damage - she was one shooting over half the heroes in the game just by landing her insanely easy to hit abilities. With Xul, he was just tuned too well across the board - his damage was again massively out of line, and was swiftly nerfed down.
With Tracer, it's harder to pinpoint the issue. There's been lots of suggestions and ideas, but ultimately she doesn't blow people up like the other two did, her heroic doesn't win team fights, and she has very legitimate weaknesses built into her kit and some really powerful hard counters which the others didn't have. Personally I think they should drop the blink charges on her recall talent to 1 charge only, and then possibly look at a tiny nerd to her damage.
My own experience has been a 50% win rate with tracer in games - and weirdly in hero league I seem to have a 100% win rate against her. Maybe I've been lucky because so far people just keep picking the heroes who are really good against her in my games (Zeratul, Lunara, Raynor, Valla, Chen, etc).
I absolutely agree with those win numbers she needs needing, but do feel she's in a different place to the other two (who simply were overturned on release).
scoobs
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You're absolutely right. Her numbers are about right, its her non-damaging abilities and talents that are simply too good right now, which I can't really recall happening before with a new hero. Its usually some number is tuned too high and people are taking advantage of it.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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I suspected that to be the case, still perfectly understandable.
Interestingly with all the baggage gone from THH, they now have room to talk about patch notes and shit. Highlight of the show
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Interestingly with all the baggage gone from THH, they now have room to talk about patch notes and shit. Highlight of the show
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