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Heroes of the Storm |OT2| Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I'll let you think you got that one on me since I know how happy it made you feel.
Much salt. It's ok you can't always be an expert.
While the master isn't bad (although it looks more like a WoW rogue or druid set), I definitely prefer the Serpent King. I'm definitely picking up the bundle.
I've been hearing that first chord of the Tristram song for a while. At least as far back as the Li Ming patch, and I'm thinking even before that. I always thought it had something to do with my audio volumes in the game being so low, and it doesn't pick those settings up right away. But maybe that has nothing to do with it.
Wasn't it with the Diablo event?
Acidote
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Maybe, I've been hearing it for a while too. At least since Ming.
jaundicejuice
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First blush: Xul's trait stomps all over Sylvanas's Possession even though he gets 3 fewer units and they're temporary. He has that trait from level 1 and it's tied to his wave clear, which is pretty good, even for a specialist. Cursed Strikes AoE is too large and should require a talent to be that huge. Right now it impacts an entire creep wave right now. It looks like it's the first thing that will get nerfed.
Xul and Bone Prison are going to be about as effective as Arthas and Howling Blast, require good positioning/the enemy to be horribly out of position for him to waddle out and land that. Which honestly seems like a fair trade-off since it isn't a skill shot and is a targeted ability with a slight delay.
Xul and Bone Prison are going to be about as effective as Arthas and Howling Blast, require good positioning/the enemy to be horribly out of position for him to waddle out and land that. Which honestly seems like a fair trade-off since it isn't a skill shot and is a targeted ability with a slight delay.
It's 252 at 20
BreezyLimbo
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Poison nova is ok but it's too slow, all the heroes can easily outrun it.
I think the ult to pick right now is his ult. Yeah Poison nova can damage buildings but....the frozen mages are simply more reliable.
I think the ult to pick right now is his ult. Yeah Poison nova can damage buildings but....the frozen mages are simply more reliable.
His auto is 119 at level 1. You start at 20 now in try, maybe that's what you saw?
Poison Nova sounds like it's intended to be the niche counter-pick of the two.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Yeah. It's something you use if you're going against a melee heavy team that jumped on you.
Yea. That's definetly it. Kind of misleading for try mode then... Lemme try this hero- he's strong as fuck- buy hero- how come he doesn't do as much damage in the game?
I mean you could just save poison nova for the right time.... People can dodge many ultimates if you use them badly.
Not discounting the zombie wall though, I literally just had 30secs in try mode to mess with him.
jaundicejuice
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Leoric wave clear + turning a creep wave is stronk but he's super easy to bully out of lane as a ranged hero. Bone armor doesn't provide him with a lot of sustain.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Did we get a 3rd place match between COG and Tempo last weekend?
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
not sure you know what salt means lol
anyway, I grabbed lunara/xul/falstad/uther/thrall today because I was a fuckin chump in HL with my hero selection
scoobs
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The evasion talent is the obvious choice here I think. Damage is pretty meh.
racketpunch
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Greymane counter?
Yeah, I've done two quick matches with him so far and I really like him but the Bone Armor just seems kind of meh, until I can get healed from Raise Skeleton there's just no real way to stay in a lane if you're being bullied.
I think the damage or evasion is going to be the go-to there. Slow just doesn't seem worth at 1s 30%.
Only issue I have with evasion is it turns into a 40s CD.
jaundicejuice
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Been playing Quick Match as other heroes and insta-queuing.
Xul gets decent sustain later with other talent choices but yeah, bone armor on its own isn't enough early game. And even the sustain he gets later doesn't seem like it's enough.
I have yet to play a match where his Leo-like wave clear is even an issue, so my worries about that were a little misplaced. He has almost no sustain early and gets bullied out of lane pretty easily by ranged. If left alone to a lane or being paired with Zagara, Azmodan or Sylvanas I could see Xul being a problem, like he would just add to his lanemates pressure but on his own versus most of heroes, so far, he's not much of a concern.
Sylvanas is actually a decent counter to Xul. She has better lane pressure with Black Arrow and she can bully Xul out of lane. Plus with decent positioning, Bone Prison never feels like a threat. When you get Will of the Forsaken it simply is no longer a concern unless you're playing a team baiting that talent in a coordinated gank. basically as a ranged you can chip down his health so even if he lands bone prison, he's not going to want to stay for a fight. He basically can't trade with ranged heroes, at all. Most Xul's so far haven't been making great use of the reverse skillshot though.
Every Xul in QM so far has been choosing Poison Nova which is strong, if it actually connects. It's super easy to dodge if you're not right in the epicenter. I just see this being the ult everyone avoids. It's Xul's Pyroblast/Tripletap.
KojiKnight
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Those tweaks to Nova has made her fully playable to me again. Played several matches today and had top killing blows in every match. She feels really good right now.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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So you're saying Jake is booty tier mmr
Edit: do I have to add a /s or facetious to every comment now?
Edit: do I have to add a /s or facetious to every comment now?
No, p sure jake is higher mmr than everyone here but brian. I am saying that whether he's good or not he feels like a pubstomper. We already know Thrall and co have been for a while in low MMR. And Xul is AOE city and everyone just loves to clump up.
EDIT: I take it back. Jake is 2900-3000 MMR like a bunch of us. Still, not booty tier.
LOL, like I said before, never can tell when you're being facetious or just complaining about 'x'. It's a toss up from post to post.
EDIT: I take it back. Jake is 2900-3000 MMR like a bunch of us. Still, not booty tier.
Schamtoo is higher MMR than joke though huehue.
LOL, like I said before, never can tell when you're being facetious or just complaining about 'x'. It's a toss up from post to post.
jaundicejuice
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Every game, every Xul, Poison Nova. Not once have I seen Mages.
I see Xul being more of an Alpha March Murky or Raynor Raynoring than anything else because he is pretty effective at that.
I see Xul being more of an Alpha March Murky or Raynor Raynoring than anything else because he is pretty effective at that.
TurboLibre
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I can't seem to get into a match. Even when I set it to Vs AI, I'm not matching with players and it eventually fills my team with bots.
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Yeah, it'll be like that first day or two if the hero is really popular. It sucks like that.
BreezyLimbo
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Not...really because his Bone Prison is already top tier for that, and the frozen mage line is good for actually splitting the enemy team.
Like...Poison Nova I think will be a very niche pick. Very very niche. It's akin to Diablos Lightning Breath, as in you never go it unless you really wanna go it.
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