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Heroes of the Storm |OT2| Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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Alur are you the ex-KoB manager??? Sounds like your typical bullying.
I told those motherfuckers. 900 dollars a year salary, 4% of tournament winnings, and only 5% of stream earnings AND THEY HAVE THE GALL TO CALL ME SELFISH. ME?!
What a bunch of assholes. Then they leave the organization and I threaten legal action against them for expenses that I may or may not have even really paid for.
Best believe Imma get my money! 900 dollars a year boys! THATS A FORTUNE FOR PLAYING VIDYA GAEMS. Y THEY SO GREEDY
no, Yoshi jr. read it yourself
summary above, and yes that is how the owner acted. he's my brother IRL
Nice try Alur
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Just saying it could have been different. C9 never actually met MVP Black in the year they became reigning champions which is kinda hilarious considering MVP was treated like a contender for the best team in the world, if not the top runner.
I mean C9 didn't have the strongest showing in China either and that against fairly mid tier teams, am I supposed to call them shit because of that?
Not to mention that Korea just got 1 slot and if it things had been a bit earlier and under these conditions C9 wouldn't have made it either.
jaundicejuice
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You look at the map for the predator shimmer. You position yourself so she can't just safely pop out of the fog to attack, you force her to move to where she can be spotted. Also don't be alone. So even if she does manage to secure a kill, it's a pyrrhic victory because she dies as well.
Gank heroes rely on soft targets being out of position, alone and/or near fog (be it fog of war on the map or from the grass). I mean you should know if you're going to be her target at match start and play accordingly.
She's not super viable in higher levels of play and her use dramatically falls off.
Truth.
Sothis Krieg
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So Dehaka not tomorrow/wednesday ?
We don't know - doubtful there will be a PTR as other than Daharka and the new map, there aren't any balance changes coming at all. I think Warcraft is getting their patch tomorrow so might well update HotS at the same time.
Well BKB will actually be playing in our first Summer regional this week so doubtful he'll be on.
I saw you guys talking about that a page or two back but I've seen nothing about it on Twitter or reddit.
What happened? Where's the info, and where was the outrage? I looked on both I never saw anything (though I did at some point see the initial topic on reddit before I knew there was an issue).
The info was posted Friday afternoon, and it got buried under the weekend tournies. Unfortunately it seems like its not going to change, so we can say goodbye to HotS in Europe for the rest of the year I think.
I love Blizzard games, but I have to say after 10+ years of them not giving a flying fuck about Europe it's gotten quite depressing at this stage. They aren't even capable of doing basic things like releasing content at the same time in all regions.
I love Blizzard games, but I have to say after 10+ years of them not giving a flying fuck about Europe it's gotten quite depressing at this stage. They aren't even capable of doing basic things like releasing content at the same time in all regions.
I agree with you on the content and the apparent disparity in priority, but isn't the bolded a bit dramatic?
I mean, I saw you guys spitting nails over it but after digging into it on Twitter, beyond people thinking it's absurd, I don't see anyone threatening to boycott or quit or anything.
That's ESL on both sides of the Atlantic. It's just the EU version is much worse. Not really sure why they wait so late to annouce and have such strange timetables. It's a summer qualifer and Spring literally just started.
I'm not kidding when I comment about Blizzard and Europe. For a massive company whose games sell millions world wide, Blizzard has *always* been incredibly provincial when it comes to their products. I've known a few people who work for Blizzard EU (even had one in my raiding guild), and they all said the same thing - fantastic company, but there is absolutely no question or doubt in anyone's mind that Europe is an afterthought.
The fact that they put so much energy into Heroes of the Dorm, a competition that means fuck all to anyone outside of NA, whilst regions which are much larger in player base are completely screwed, sums it up.
You guys keep saying this but we have no actual proof of this "much larger". Only "more". The only stats we had were HOTDOGS and it was like 1.1 million to 900,000 or something. Not like 1.1 million to 500,000.
It's not a boycott, it's the fact that
1) Our winning regional teams for Spring will be very hard pressed to qualify
2) There will be a 3 month gap in EU where there are zero tournaments happening
3) Our summer regional qualifiers is going to be played on the same patch as our spring regionals - we've already held those!
4) Our biggest teams outside of Dig and Fnatic don't even have full rosters - TL is trying out BKB and Navi is just 4 players currently.
Given how messed up the EU scene is right now with roster swaps, the above factors are going to significantly hurt it for the rest of the year. I think we'll see several teams collapse over the next few months, and I don't think we'll have a strong showing at Blizzcon because I just don't think there will be the scene to support it.
It's not possible to make a career out of a game when the organisers pull stuff like this - which means more pro's will stop playing, which hurts the scene.
It was 1.4m to 900K, or there abouts - it was quite a noticeable difference. The same can be said for the number of teams supported.
Just quickly checking Hotslogs, and as of today there are 70435 USA hero league players uploaded, and 104,461 EU players uploaded. That's a significant difference.
This is a lot of assumption and emotion for an event that is half a year away. It may well pan out as you, but we're talking two more championships pre Blizzcon unless they fold the Fall into Blizzcon which, at least for my part, I've yet to see them confirm or deny.
I don't think the roster issues are as big a deal as you apparently do. We just saw Team Blaze swap two players and body Naventic and nearly defeat C9 in NA for the first time since last summer. When a roster works, it just works. EU appears to be so fond of it's swaps post 2015 Blizzcon that it's hard to have an argument that they wouldn't be fucking up their own synergies with continuous swaps and half made teams regardless.
As for 2), there is still a Fall championship. The assumption that it will be October = Blizzcon is just that for now. They haven't said. Seeing as the Summer event is being played in Spring, it's just as likely they are crunching everything forward in order to have room for a separate Blizzcon event is it not?
I think it was 1.1 or 1.2 but you may be right.
Re: the second part, uploaded today? Uploaded this week?
I dont think roster swaps are blizzard's concern, but the idea that regionals are held on what, a two weeks notice?, and coinciding w/ an intl tourney?, like wadafa
Wait it wasnt even two weeks it was one week, so yeh hopefully dig/myin can either try to get through based on pure skill/meta understanding or they have to waste a week prepping for eu teams rather than spring champz
Wait it wasnt even two weeks it was one week, so yeh hopefully dig/myin can either try to get through based on pure skill/meta understanding or they have to waste a week prepping for eu teams rather than spring champz
Not even two weeks - 5 days notice.
What's even weirder is the fact the second Summer regional is being held 2 days after the first.
I hate to delve into conspiracy theories, but it feels like ESL just wants to push it out of the door with the minimum effort. Either they aren't earning enough of their contract with Blizzard, or they've fucked up the scheduling or *something*.
I hate to delve into conspiracy theories, but it feels like ESL just wants to push it out of the door with the minimum effort. Either they aren't earning enough of their contract with Blizzard, or they've fucked up the scheduling or *something*.
They both get an invite to the last qualifier a week after korea if they choose not to participate this week and next week
Probably the main failing here is not charting out a schedule ahead of time so the teams have space to react
I wonder if it is in dig's best interest just to grind it out this weekend, i feel like they can get through while myin would probably want to get some intl exp. through first
Probably the main failing here is not charting out a schedule ahead of time so the teams have space to react
I wonder if it is in dig's best interest just to grind it out this weekend, i feel like they can get through while myin would probably want to get some intl exp. through first
hopefully the MLG acquisition is a step towards Blizz eventually just doing all the major tournament stuff in-house
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Where do you get these numbers from I checked hotlogs and the leaderboard in QM had 200k and 260k unique entries respectively.
I thought it was weird (just my personal opinion here) that Blizzard was going to give out so much prize money this year in each region and do so basically three times. They pretty much tripled or more their prize allotment for 2016 over 2015. It's possible they did so and intended to lowball ESL, I guess, and here we are?
Also think it's plausible EU ESL is just a joke though. Didn't HOTS have some issues and problems with RTBC last year in EU (I think it was ESL)?
It's been far from perfect in NA scheduling wise either, but it feels like two different companies or two different agendas.
ye. I think we talked about this in Dec/Jan here in thread. Why is this shit not planned out months in advance like any other esport/physical sport? Like we should know the dates for the whole year already for any Blizzard sanctioned tournament.
That's the hope but we aren't sure if the MLG acquisition was intended for Activision and Blizzard games or just something related to Activision/Call of Duty.
A good while back (maybe even before we were out of Beta) Barrett, the owner of hotdoggies released the total number of unique players who had uploaded at least one game in his database from each region. EU had somewhere over a million and NA had somewhere shy of a million.
I do think tho, unless there was a blizz lcs style thing w/ roster locks and contract signing periods, that roster issues are on the teams themselves. Like logically you wouldnt expect summer quals to start before spring champs were decided and i feel that, but that aspect isnt really on blizz imo
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