No that isn't true. I welcome opinions that differ from my own. I have no problem with my values or way of thinking being challenged as it can cause me to reflect on my positions. Doesn't mean I'll always change my mind and nor should it. Sorry if my comment upset or offended you in some way.
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Yup, I guess.
interwebs knows no middle ground.
Personally, I loved TLOU2. And the HBO series.
Woke or not, I trust ND
PaintTinJr
Member
Given the content and the obvious reaction I have to wonder if PlayStation intentionally sent this trailer out in this financial quarter to absorb the problem with their positive share situation in the event they have to Concord it.
Presumably the net outcome would be like this
Presumably the net outcome would be like this
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If the game isnt suppose to have humour, why would they have her sucking a straw making a goofy face while talking to a commander, and then doing Pet Shop Boys nostalgia in the first trailer? It's a GotG kind of vibe.
Hard to criticise the game when we haven't seen any gameplay. Anyway.....
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
There was a stunning lack of gameplay footage for all of the announcements.
In-engine CGI (oxymoron) and logos have people going ZOMG!! Woulda thought that standards were higher by now.
Stooky
Banned
People just making up shit up to hate. Anti woke mob at its finest. Would love to actually talk about the game trailer on a games forum but arrrg she's bald , she might be non binary even though the press release says 'she' and her, and i can't tell what race she is. I hate it.....
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
You never know. It might be. She's got a spaceship after all which means zooming around different points of the planet or universe. Kind of like ME games where planets open up and you choose which missions to tackle first on your own.
Unknown?
Member
Ftfy
BlitzerRadic
Member
Holy shite this thread 57 pages now. Druckman better put a weave on that bald head soon LMAO 
Stooky
Banned
on the wall shot there are listings for parts for sale. Im thinking customizable ship
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sainraja
Member
More like reaching...
If it ends up being full of woke politics, we can all revisit this topic, but right now, based on what we know, having a female character who is Black in a completely new IP and labeling it woke or getting upset over that seems a bit silly to me.
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near
Member
The idea is to shave your own head for true immersion. I’m contemplating it myself.Holy shite this thread 57 pages now. Druckman better put a weave on that bald head soon LMAO
PaintTinJr
Member
Wasn't the "it's a sin" track lyric designed to 4th wall break to project the character's presumed associated orientation, by words, artist orientation and the origins of the track? because just being a bounty hunter going after a criminal target doesn't align with the track, and putting it in the foreground audio if just a random choice makes no sense, either
The Meaning Behind The Song: It's A Sin by Pet Shop Boys - Musician Wages
The Secrets and Significance Behind “It’s A Sin” by Pet Shop Boys: A Comprehensive Analysis The Emergence of Pet Shop Boys Pet Shop Boys came into the music industry with their hit single “West End Girls.” The duo, Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe, conquered the music scene with their unique sound...
www.musicianwages.com
"The Meaning and Significance of the Lyrics
“It’s A Sin” explores the relationship between human desire and religious values, dealing with themes of sin, guilt, religion, and sexuality. The song was daring and controversial at the time of its release because it addressed homosexuality, the AIDS epidemic, and the church’s views on both. The lyrics are intense and emotional, delivering a message that speaks to people from all walks of life and social backgrounds."
Crystal Winters
Member
I hope this site does not become insufferable with its hate AND with its defense of this soon to be game both now and after it comes out. I might have to use that ignore topic feature in the future if that becomes the case.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Any why would people go nuts over T1 releasing today? Because it's a 1984 low budget movie which would be laughed at 40 years later? No doubt. But for the time, it was a great movie.
You got a tag team of a future soldier and modern day female target battling a Terminator. Killing, blood, and classic Arnie at the early part of his movie career. People love it.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Yeah, but no. If that was purely the reason we'd have had the same comments about this game, which was a great game
Stop being disingenuous.
Elginer
Member
This looks 100 times better
Stooky
Banned
you kinda late to the party my guy start around page 4Yeah, but no. If that was purely the reason we'd have had the same comments about this game, which was a great game
Stop being disingenuous.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I didnt look into the PSB song that deep, but never knew the meaning of it. I used to listen to a lot of PSB, New Order, INXS and U2 back in the day. But Ive never been someone who looks into the meaning of songs. As long as it's a catchy rock song or a ballad doesn't really matter. Maybe I've got bad hearing, but for a lot of songs I cant even tell what half the lyrics are unless I google it or find a YT video with lyrics displayed. But thats just me. Maybe most people actually care about the real meaning of songs.Wasn't the "it's a sin" track lyric designed to 4th wall break to project the character's presumed associated orientation, by words, artist orientation and the origins of the track? because just being a bounty hunter going after a criminal target doesn't align with the track, and putting it in the foreground audio if just a random choice makes no sense, either
The Meaning Behind The Song: It's A Sin by Pet Shop Boys - Musician Wages
The Secrets and Significance Behind “It’s A Sin” by Pet Shop Boys: A Comprehensive Analysis The Emergence of Pet Shop Boys Pet Shop Boys came into the music industry with their hit single “West End Girls.” The duo, Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe, conquered the music scene with their unique sound...
"The Meaning and Significance of the Lyrics
“It’s A Sin” explores the relationship between human desire and religious values, dealing with themes of sin, guilt, religion, and sexuality. The song was daring and controversial at the time of its release because it addressed homosexuality, the AIDS epidemic, and the church’s views on both. The lyrics are intense and emotional, delivering a message that speaks to people from all walks of life and social backgrounds."
If that song is suppose to truly reflect the character and it'll lead to her preaching politics, sexuality and religion to gamers, I'm not surprised.
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BigBeauford
Member
Returnal was 0% woke and it was awesome. Selene was written like a modern day Ripley, which is something that you cannot expect from ND.
ARK1391
Member
Harmless ad placements that make sense, the ship had to be made by someone, is a great way for devs to cover the cost of these $500 million games and not have to pay back the investment. Seriously, seeing Porsche on the ship is not a big deal at all.
Now if the game took place in say 2030 and the main character walked around in a NASCAR jacket with ads all over it, that would be different.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Not really. The main underlying problematic tones with this game most people have is that it'll be another sassy 'woman' being a man power fantasy made by a man who loves a grifting activist
You kinda late to the party, start around Tlou 2 (Or even Uncharted 4's Nadine Ross).
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VideoGameEnjoyer
Member
Tony Dalton being in this is hype.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Yup.
I remember people making fun she looks like Megan Rapinoe (I did myself). But once the game got going, nobody cared because it's a no nonsense shooter with zero political preaching. At least I never remembered any of that watching clips.
I totally get it that some people are saying wait for the game, instead of pre-judging. But too bad. That's life. Everyone pre-judges based on first impression. And Druckmann has a history of lesbian/trans/preaching in past games. He's even gone on social media ragging against gamers about it. So dont be surprised if you get more of that, especially since the lead actress even has social media political tweets people posted.
Then again, maybe Intergalactic is a no nonsense Returnal kind of game which is all gameplay and no lectures.
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sendit
Member
Returnal = woke middle aged/grandma simulator. No thanks.
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reinking
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PaintTinJr
Member
Co-opting a good iconic pop track for sensitivity sweet baby gaming topics in a game is such a disservice and disrespect of the music IMO when it was originally written against a backdrop of important issues of intolerance and ignorance that needed fixed ASAP.
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BigBeauford
Member
Nah, Selene gets her ass kicked constantly in that game. Everything she does is believable, as opposed to making people think a woman in a post apocalyptic setting would be built like Christian McCaffery, or that people in the same setting would take orders from a frumpy middle aged woman.
BigBeauford
Member
Wtf with her god damn Greek Olympic god shoulders. This shit is so stupid
Self High Five
Member
Interesting the volume of this thread is beating the purple dumpster fire. Speaking of which...
The youtube comments are hilarious
"When PS5 pro doesn't come with a disc drive but we need a CD player to play music in the future"
"I feel like Will Smith will slap me for making fun of her."
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
It was a movie. So they chose to cut her hair for the movie as a means of promotion. Much like Demi Moore.
fallingdove
Member
Ha - deep throating. I don’t even like Naughty Dog games all that much. Your comparisons are just shit.
For someone that has been saying you would have preferred a safer game, a more ordinary world, a recycled character design, you now seem very passionate about the elements this game may have been influenced by (which have little to do with a single marvel movie but dozens of 80s pop culture references that appear all over the place).
Really what happened was your broken woke detector jumped to conclusions based on a female MC and you are grasping for straws to make it seem like you have a substantial argument. For an initial trailer its fine. You can confirm or refuse to deny your assumptions when we have more information.
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Stooky
Banned
no way you can pull all of that from teaser trailer. ahh yeah Tlou2, Uncharted I know them 'very' well, goat games!
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James Sawyer Ford
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Topher
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
the first 40 seconds.
FunkMiller
Member
I'd actually like to understand the desire to masculinise female characters so much. Okay, I get not wanting to appeal to the male gaze, for whatever reason... but why does that translate into presenting women in such a way that does not appeal to women either? Why deliberately de-feminise your female characters, and make them look more mascu -
...only joking. I understand exactly why. The character is meant to appeal to trans women. Which is fine I guess - but lets not spend any more time pretending anything different.
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Crystal Winters
Member
Damn, the one on the left is smoking! I'd play the fuck out of that game. Even if the writing ended up being shit, at least the protag is good looking.
But outside of that, I do wonder how this game will be received upon release. Even if she were hot, that is no indication on the whole that the game would be good, only that the art and animation department deserve a raise.
Still though, the one on the left is really nice looking.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
I'm not. I'm saying that's why people are pissed off.
FunkMiller
Member
Everyone can watch the trailer for themselves, and it would appear that most people do indeed see parallels with the wildly successful Guardians Of The Galaxy movies. And quite where you've conjured up the idea that I would prefer a safer game, I just don't know. You're confusing me with someone else, or just not reading my posts properly.
...and screaming WOKE! at someone who is critical of something doesn't work here. You can dislike me being critical of how derivative this trailer is, but don't engage in Era style bullshit.
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Balducci30
Member
Concerns I have about this game have nothing to do with the design of the MC. I think the vibe is cool - my fear is that it seems like you’re primarily using a sword (I know Neil Druckmans a fan of Elden Ring) - and it seems to take place on a single planet. I’m hoping its got some good gunplay instead of primarily relying on melee weapons - and I hope the enemies aren’t all robots.
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Dragon_Rocks
Member
Why name the first game of a new IP with a title and subtitle? Why not just Intergalactic or just The Heretic Prophet?