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[Geometric-Crusher]

One thing I am curious about is that someone recently said that there were four hundred thousand dislikes on one of the trailers? Not saying they do not matter, but I am curious as to how many of those 4hk were never going to buy it in the first place and only wanted to downvote.
Also, let's say that each and every one of those 4hk truly do not buy the game, even used. What would that translate to in monetary losses, and would it be enough for ND to even care?

Or they are robots

 

[jason10mm]

Some of my favourite action films have had female leads, like Kill Bill, Mad Max, The Hunger Games and Alien(s), amongst others. My favourite TV show was Buffy the Vampire Slayer. In the 80’s the action genre was pretty much dominated by the musclebound male hero, but times have moved on. I feel like some folk still live in the 80’s.

Which Mad Max, Furiosa? And Buffy wasn't an action show, it was a teen drama with action elements (and I loved it). Strike Back, Banshee, SEAL Team, The Unit, Black Sash, The Warrior, Walker Texas Ranger, Renegade; THOSE are action TV shows. But I'll give you Dark Angel perhaps. Lioness as well. Again, not a NEVER thing, just a much harder project to sell and do well and this isn't really anything that can be debated.

 

[rofif]

Not a single decision the retarded characters in that game made was outside of the "I just took 3 stripes of acid let's make an important decision" realm . It wasn't emotional just utterly stupid and unrealistic and don't even get me started on the whole abysmally tacked on Lev arc.
I loved the predecessor and I couldn't wait for this stupid drag to be over at the midpoint. The only reason I didn't drop it was that I simply couldn't believe that "that's it? This is the sequel to Lou.. Really?"

Damn You must be a horrible person.
Not even a bit of empathy.
If you hate this game so much... I have no idea what other games you play.
This is top of the top quality wise.

Imo it's better to try something different and be controversial or fail, rather than do another identical game

 

[Schmendrick]

Damn You must be a horrible person.
Not even a bit of empathy.

Empathy has nothing to do with refusing terrible writing. Do you cry in marvel movies, too?

If you hate this game so much... I have no idea what other games you play.

games that are fun and either need no story to be fun or actually have a good one.

Imo it's better to try something different and be controversial or fail, rather than do another identical game

dragging Lou's story down to indian soap opera level certainly was "controversial and different"

 

[Msamy]

Hope to see some of those ND cancelled SC fi title concept arts in this game
Also hope it will be open world as they canceled projects

 

[rofif]

Bullshit. Empathy has nothing to do with refusing terrible writing. Do you cry in marvel movies, too?
games that are fun and either need no story to be fun or actually have a good one.
dragging Lou's story down to indian soap opera level certainly was "controversial and different"

"bad writting" is the most overused, bullshit criticism towards games.
TLOU2 "writting" is one of best ever in modern games.

If you are all about fun, then you should try Forspoken. It's the complete opposite of tlou2. honestly. It's got an amazing gameplay.
If you dislike playing tlou2, forspoken is actually a gameplay first game with heartwarming writing that's light hearted. Just survive the first 30 minutes of introductions (I liked it but I understand it can start slow).
Look at the new praise it's getting now that it's on ps+


My point is - People will ignore a serious, quality game because it tries too hard and people will ignore gameplay heavy game because it looks stupid.
The same peoplea dvocating for more gameplay are skipping forspoken for some bullshit reasons.
What the hell are you people playing

 

[Schmendrick]

TLOU2 "writting" is one of best ever in modern games.

oh you poor poor soul. You probably couldn't tell the script quality between a Shawshank Redemption and Marvel Movie xyz apart...

 

[rofif]

oh you poor poor soul. You probably couldn't tell the script quality between a Shawshank Redemption and Marvel Movie xyz apart...

Yeah you are such a smart critic huh ok grandpa go watch your schindlers list.
The story and writing is not as good as some but it’s also doing completely different thing. In the end, I cried and that’s all that matters

 

[yogaflame]

100 more pages of negativity on the game might help push for change in game design especially the protagonist. And also prevent or discourage ND, if they plan too force and push for any woke agenda especially those twisted gender ideology like for example, binary crap, misuse of pronouns, transgenderism.

 

[Schmendrick]

Yeah you are such a smart critic huh ok grandpa go watch your schindlers list.
The story and writing is not as good as some but it’s also doing completely different thing.

Calling this forced pretentious bullshit "not as good as others" is an understatement. And calling a standard revenge story "completely different" uh-huh......
I think you'd really dig Indian cinema.

, I cried and that’s all that matters

Some people even cry during "next supermodel" shows and similar filth... Or you could just cut an onion.

But yeah why am I discussing this with you of all people... The dozens of contradictions in the story and the bipolar jumpy characters have been discussed to death.

 

[DavidGzz]

I thought I was superficial being a bodybuilder, but I don't hold a candle to the people so pissed about her looks. I'm the type to watch a movie and ask why the fuck a girl is wearing makeup, why is her hair perfect all the time, etc. It's especially ridiculous in sitcoms besides something like Roseanne, everyone looks unnatural. In Intergalactic you have a normal looking person alone on a ship in space and people want a super model. It's like people don't know what a girl looks like without makeup and a hair stylist. She has a body that looks capable of some violence instead of a 115-pound weak figure. Sure, it's in the future and there will be unrealistic shit, or at least futuristic stuff that doesn't exist in our world, but I think Naughty Dog is going for realistic characters and I'm here for it.

I'm just trying to get us to 100 pages. Don't quote me. We'll never agree lol

 

[FalsettoVibe]

I thought I was superficial being a bodybuilder, but I don't hold a candle to the people so pissed about her looks. I'm the type to watch a movie and ask why the fuck a girl is wearing makeup, why is her hair perfect all the time, etc. It's especially ridiculous in sitcoms besides something like Roseanne, everyone looks unnatural. In Intergalactic you have a normal looking person alone on a ship in space and people want a super model. It's like people don't know what a girl looks like without makeup and a hair stylist. She has a body that looks capable of some violence instead of a 115-pound weak figure. Sure, it's in the future and there will be unrealistic shit, or at least futuristic stuff that doesn't exist in our world, but I think Naughty Dog is going for realistic characters and I'm here for it.

I'm just trying to get us to 100 pages. Don't quote me. We'll never agree lol

Get out of here with that. Being logical and rational ain't allowed round he're partner.

 

[realcool]

and I'm here for it.

 

[archangelmorph]

Trailer was fine.

I don’t have any issues with the character but fuck me the dialog in the trailer was terrible.

It’s like there was no drama in that discourse at all. Not even any acting. It sounded like two bored women in an office arguing apathetically about stealing each others milk in the office refrigerator.

Hire some actual actors ND.

 

[Neff]

Trailer was fine.

More I watch it the more I like it.

Still too many tattoos though.

 

[mckmas8808]

I bet Ellie or Abby won’t even be a main character in TLOU3. If they’re really trying to franchise the series they’re eventually gonna have to move past Ellie and Joel’s story completely. My guess is that they’ll just anthologize the series and make each new iteration a completely new cast of characters living through the outbreak in different ways. I bet the seeds of this approach were laid with the cancelled Factions game.

I believe Neil said Ellie is the main character for the whole TLOU series. Starting back to TLOU1. So it'll be weird if she's not in TLOU3 as the main character.

 

[mckmas8808]

- Ugly desexualized girlboss doing a ritual of defeminization by buzzing off her hair
- 80s retro vibes by ripping off movies like Alien and Guardians of the Galaxy
- obnoxious MCU dialogue
- female warrior beating up killer robots

Exactly WHAT is groundbreaking here?

"Ritual of Defeminization" is laughable to me. Come on guys. Can we try to be reasonable here? A RITUAL?! LOL!!!

 

[Saturn Dragon]

Let's be honest here, many people say that TLOU2 writing sucked because it literally felt like some forced cheap storyline from a crappy Tv Show.

Oh, there's a tv show of the first game now?
Well the tv show was TLOU1 lite, with bad acting.
Season 2 is gonna be a very slow trainwreck.

 

[Nickolaidas]

"Ritual of Defeminization" is laughable to me. Come on guys. Can we try to be reasonable here? A RITUAL?! LOL!!!

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh thatdoesn'treallyanswermyquestionthough.

 

[Crystal Winters]

Speaking for myself, I am not bothered by the fact that the protagonist is a woman. I wonder why it seems like there are so many people out there (not specifically here at gaf, but on the internet in general) that seem so triggered by games having female protagonists.

Even the cute/sexy ones like Miriam from Bloodstained. There are people in real life that I know of that will not even look at a game beyond its trailer if the protagonist isn't some man beast. that can tear through hordes of enemies as they were nothing. Second a woman shows up that nuke battlefields though and they get all triggered.

 

[Crystal Winters]

I get that there are a lot of haters for this game, but there are also a lot of defenders as well claiming it's going to be awesome. Can I borrow your time machine? Clearly you know more than the rest of us.

 

[The Fartist]

I get that there are a lot of haters for this game, but there are also a lot of defenders as well claiming it's going to be awesome. Can I borrow your time machine? Clearly you know more than the rest of us.

You don't need a time machine, silly, just play any ND game that released after September 9th, 1996, there's your proof. Even the "worst" game between then and now is higher quality than at least 50% of what's coming out these days.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

You don't need a time machine, silly, just play any ND game that released after September 9th, 1996, there's your proof. Even the "worst" game between then and now is higher quality than at least 50% of what's coming out these days.

Dont forget what games they released in January 1992 and on August 30, 1994.

 

[DavidGzz]

I get that there are a lot of haters for this game, but there are also a lot of defenders as well claiming it's going to be awesome. Can I borrow your time machine? Clearly you know more than the rest of us.

I like the melee in TLOU2 so a more fleshed out melee combat system could rival and surpass whatever CD Project Red is doing with the Witcher 4. It's not saying much since TW3's combat is so bad, but still. Combine that with everything else Naughty Dog does amazingly well, and you have a guaranteed banger. It's the same reason I'd be excited for the next From Software IP. Trust.

 

[The Fartist]

Dont forget what games they released in January 1992 and on August 30, 1994.

I don't get this argument, if it is one. Are you saying there's a chance Intergalactic could be bad because ND made two bad games in '92 and '94?

 

[Crystal Winters]

You don't need a time machine, silly, just play any ND game that released after September 9th, 1996, there's your proof. Even the "worst" game between then and now is higher quality than at least 50% of what's coming out these days.

Some of us have, and some of us have already dismissed them. Good if you like them though. Nothing wrong about that. People are allowed to like things for any reason they choose.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

- Ugly desexualized girlboss doing a ritual of defeminization by buzzing off her hair
- 80s retro vibes by ripping off movies like Alien and Guardians of the Galaxy
- obnoxious MCU dialogue
- female warrior beating up killer robots

Exactly WHAT is groundbreaking here?

Good lord....

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh thatdoesn'treallyanswermyquestionthough.

How many games nowadays are ground breaking? And since you clearly don't think this is, what do you consider groundbreaking games? Also how do you gather this much from a 4 minute game cinematic?

 

[Matsuchezz]

Speaking for myself, I am not bothered by the fact that the protagonist is a woman. I wonder why it seems like there are so many people out there (not specifically here at gaf, but on the internet in general) that seem so triggered by games having female protagonists.

Even the cute/sexy ones like Miriam from Bloodstained. There are people in real life that I know of that will not even look at a game beyond its trailer if the protagonist isn't some man beast. that can tear through hordes of enemies as they were nothing. Second a woman shows up that nuke battlefields though and they get all triggered.

The thing is that a lot of gaffers want to be transgender but their health care plan doesn't cover sex change operations, so they live in frustration every single day. They are highly emotional(minimal to none rational thinking) people, easly offended, easily triggered, zero tolerance, spout hate in all directions, it's the same people that dislike Resetera and the people over there, but, create threads here about whats is going on there. The irony.
It makes sense.
And this is like in the American Beauty movie they pretend to hate the most what they can't become freely and if they can't have it, it mustn't exist.

 

[The Fartist]

Some of us have, and some of us have already dismissed them. Good if you like them though. Nothing wrong about that. People are allowed to like things for any reason they choose.

Whether you love or loathe them, there's no denying that they are probably the most talented studio in the business, everyone else, with a few exceptions, can only dream of being as good as ND. I wish they weren't so preachy, for sure, but they're so good that at the end of the day I just don't really give a shit as long as they keep pumping out high quality games like they have been for nearly 30 years.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I don't get this argument, if it is one. Are you saying there's a chance Intergalactic could be bad because ND made two bad games in '92 and '94?

Anything can happen.

Who would had thought Sony (after having tons of successful first party games) would take part in a trainwreck like Concord? Or Socom games going down the toilet when they were awesome on older PS systems and handhelds.

Sega's sports games on Saturn would be the worst ever after having great Genesis sports games. And after having successful consoles and handhelds, Nintendo made Virtual Boy.

 

[Boglin]

The thing is that a lot of gaffers want to be transgender but their health care plan doesn't cover sex change operations, so they live in frustration every single day. They are highly emotional people, easly offended, easily triggered, zero tolerance, spout hate in all directions, it's the same people that dislike Resetera and the people over there is the same that create threads here about whats is going on there.
It makes sense.
And this is like in the American Beauty movie they pretend to hate the most what they can't become freely and if they can't have it, it mustn't exist. The irony.

This is true for me. I want to lop my dick off but since I can't afford the procedure I instead attack people and things that painfully remind me of my unattainable dream of becoming post-op trans. But in an odd case of "the grass is always greener on the other side", my feelings actually mirror the sentiments of people who've successful had the procedure but lash out at cisgendered folks.

 

[Matsuchezz]

This is true for me. I want to lop my dick off but since I can't afford the procedure I instead attack people and things that painfully remind me of my unattainable dream of becoming post-op trans. But in an odd case of "the grass is always greener on the other side", my feelings actually mirror the sentiments of people who've successful had the procedure but lash out at cisgendered folks.

Don't stop believing, some day it will happen, keep hanging in there.

 

[The Fartist]

Anything can happen.

Who would had thought Sony (after having tons of successful first party games) would take part in a trainwreck like Concord? Or Socom games going down the toilet when they were awesome on older PS systems and handhelds.

Sega's sports games on Saturn would be the worst ever after having great Genesis sports games. And after having successful consoles and handhelds, Nintendo made Virtual Boy.

Sure anything can happen, we could get hit by an asteroid tomorrow, but it's been so long, it's highly unlikely, almost impossible.

The Concord analogy is a poor one. Sony took a terrible chance on an unproven studio.

 

[Nickolaidas]

How many games nowadays are ground breaking? And since you clearly don't think this is, what do you consider groundbreaking games? Also how do you gather this much from a 4 minute game cinematic?

You make it sound as if I complained about the game being unoriginal. I merely asked what is new and original about it, because the person I quoted made it look like it was.

 

[DForce]

Generally, killing in self defense or in defense of another can be morally justified.

From my POV(the player) given all I've seen of the Fireflies in the game, it looks like they're going to kill Ellie for a lost cause and therefore I root for Joel to stop them.

Ellie had talked about what they're going to do after the hospital visit so to me it looks like Ellie had no intention of dying at that hospital. The Fireflies could've asked but they don't bother which makes me root against them even more.

Ellie spent most of the game getting Joel to accept her as a new daughter. So when her life is in danger, it seems in character to me that Joel comes to her defense.

Just because Ellie made plans with Joel doesn't mean she wouldn't sacrifice herself for a cure.

That makes no sense at all. They also didn't know HOW the cure was going to be made. Even Joel assumed it was going to be as simple as "drawing some blood."

Ellie: "How will they do it?
Joe: "Do what?"
Ellie: "Get the cure from me? You think it'll hurt?
Joel: "No. No. They'll probably just... y'know., draw some blood. It don't hurt."

Everyone makes plans for the future with someone, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't sacrifice for that person. That's a bad argument to make.

Ellie was happy with Joel before she arrived at the hospital...... but she was upset with him afterward. Something clearly changed.

 

[Bernardougf]

Not a single decision the retarded characters in that game made was outside of the "I just took 3 stripes of acid let's make an important decision" realm . It wasn't emotional just utterly stupid and unrealistic and don't even get me started on the whole abysmally tacked on Lev arc.
I loved the predecessor and I couldn't wait for this stupid drag to be over at the midpoint. The only reason I didn't drop it was that I simply couldn't believe that "that's it? This is the sequel to Lou.. Really?"

That was me watching The Last Jedi ... exactly this... waiting for the moment that all the braindead stupid shit would make sense but the thing just kept going and just ended...Ill never forget because it was the most silence I ever saw in any movie ending ... everybody on the theater was quiet... usually when film ends people start moving and talking ... nop.. there was this seconds of pure shock and dismay untill people just started leaving.. dead silence like a fcking funeral, and it was.

 

[Msamy]

I don't know if this theory is true or not but I found out that when Jordan type in keyboard as on following pics, she types 7->2->0>2 then press enter which may be hint for either one of those two things :-
1- the game will released in 2027.
Or
2-they will show new gameplay on 27/2 next year on Playstation sop

 

[adamsapple]

I don't know if this theory is true or not but I found out that when Jordan type in keyboard as on following pics, she types 7->2->0>2 then press enter which may be hint for either one of those two things :-
1- the game will released in 2027.
Or
2-they will show new gameplay on 27/2 next year on sony sop

Don't do this to yourselves, y'all.

We just went through a few weeks of this just a little while ago.

 

[The Fartist]

I don't know if this theory is true or not but I found out that when Jordan type in keyboard as on following pics, she types 7->2->0>2 then press enter which may be hint for either one of those two things :-
1- the game will released in 2027.
Or
2-they will show new gameplay on 27/2 next year on Playstation sop

If it's another vague trailer that explains almost nothing and not a Rockstar style preview trailer of actual gameplay then they can fuck off. Still can't help but be excited for when they show it again, though. 2/27/25 seems too soon.

 

[JerryinSoCal]

I believe Neil said Ellie is the main character for the whole TLOU series. Starting back to TLOU1. So it'll be weird if she's not in TLOU3 as the main character.

I'd love for her to take on a mentor role for Jessie and Dina's son and have him be the playable character.

 

[Bernardougf]

Generally, killing in self defense or in defense of another can be morally justified.

From my POV(the player) given all I've seen of the Fireflies in the game, it looks like they're going to kill Ellie for a lost cause and therefore I root for Joel to stop them.

Ellie had talked about what they're going to do after the hospital visit so to me it looks like Ellie had no intention of dying at that hospital. The Fireflies could've asked but they don't bother which makes me root against them even more.

Ellie spent most of the game getting Joel to accept her as a new daughter. So when her life is in danger, it seems in character to me that Joel comes to her defense.

Games grounded in our World reality, even if its a fictional story have to stablish something different to "change" the reality as we know it... there is absolutely nothing in TLOU that remotely suggested that in this ficitional world vaccine creation and distribution is ridiculously a lot easier... creating vaccines and serums take a fucking long time, there are zero garantees of success even with existing known pathogens and even today with all the modern labs and equipment we cant create vaccines and antidotes for everything we have known for decades (Ebola/HIV/fungal infecctions for example),..., so for me it was a HUGE GIGANTIC leap of faith believing that in this precarious dying world this few individuals would create some record time breaking treatment, mass produce and mass distribute. To justify killing my Daughter figure for this shot in the dark.

Maybe since Im a doctor/physician I looked at this whole thing too objectively but than again this are all very commonly known and easily verifiable informations... just common knowledge

At the time I didnt even think it was debatable... it was much later that I would enter foruns and see that there was this apparently "duality" of what Joel did. And honestly never agreed with it outside the realm of the pure fantasy "what if I want to believe" explanation.

 

[Cakeboxer]

I don't know if this theory is true or not but I found out that when Jordan type in keyboard as on following pics, she types 7->2->0>2 then press enter which may be hint for either one of those two things :-
1- the game will released in 2027.
Or
2-they will show new gameplay on 27/2 next year on Playstation sop

Or Jordan has just shaved 7202 inch of hair or Jordan has 7202 genders. Come one guys, don't make things up.

 

[FunkMiller]

I believe Neil said Ellie is the main character for the whole TLOU series. Starting back to TLOU1. So it'll be weird if she's not in TLOU3 as the main character.

The trilogy has to end with her actually making the sacrifice Joel wasn't prepared to. The most 'stunning and brave' thing Druckmann could do would be to end The Last Of Us on a positive note for humanity.

The misery porn is fucking tired at this point.

Almost as tired as the supercool girl boss

 

[Ulysses 31]

Just because Ellie made plans with Joel doesn't mean she wouldn't sacrifice herself for a cure.

That makes no sense at all. They also didn't know HOW the cure was going to be made. Even Joel assumed it was going to be as simple as "drawing some blood."

Ellie: "How will they do it?
Joe: "Do what?"
Ellie: "Get the cure from me? You think it'll hurt?
Joel: "No. No. They'll probably just... y'know., draw some blood. It don't hurt."

Everyone makes plans for the future with someone, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't sacrifice for that person. That's a bad argument to make.

Ellie was happy with Joel before she arrived at the hospital...... but she was upset with him afterward. Something clearly changed.

She might've agreed, yes. Since there's doubt, it was important to ask her when there was the chance. Just assuming consent when it comes to taking the live of the patient or worse, not caring about it, does not reflect well on the Fireflies.

But even if she had agreed, it still looks very sketchy that the Fireflies would've be able to turn things around and I'm very sure Ellie or Joel would've raised some questions about it.

 

[Fabieter]

There are actual people who defend the weird body shape of Jordan as "normal". Bros probably also think that abby had normal body shape for a women. Its not. Its weird druckmann kinks.

 

[DForce]

She might've agreed, yes. Since there's doubt, it was important to ask her when there was the chance. Just assuming consent when it comes to taking the live of the patient or worse, not caring about it, does not reflect well on the Fireflies.

But even if she had agreed, it still looks very sketchy that the Fireflies would've be able to turn things around and I'm very sure Ellie or Joel would've raised some questions about it.

It was Marlene's decision. She wasn't a random stranger.

The fact remains about the ending.... Ellie wasn't happy with Joel at the end of the first game. If she were unwilling to die under any circumstances then there would be more reason for her to be upset with Joel.

 

[Ironman_Bad]

There are actual people who defend the weird body shape of Jordan as "normal". Bros probably also think that abby had normal body shape for a women. Its not. Its weird druckmann kinks.

Shes not normal she's athletic the "normal" woman in America is either skinny fat or just plain fat

 

[Fabieter]

Shes not normal she's athletic the "normal" woman in America is either skinny fat or just plain fat

She's not athletic when she has a more of a body shape of a man. Don't normality this garbage.

 

[Spitfire098]

Ehm, the guy came up with the surgery that would 100% kill the patient. He should've verified with the patient after that finding. He didn't even wanted Joel to be informed about it. The guy's very unethical.

Being unethical during a zombie apocalypse?!?
Maybe the doc should have confirmed with the ethics board of the fire files on the legality of performing a procedure without the patient's consent, all while the world around them has collapsed.