The media has been numb to crazy Trump shit for quite some time now. Basically since early October.
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The media has been numb to crazy Trump shit for quite some time now. Basically since early October.
The Wall St Journal opinion pages are next, since everyone knows those are typically considered to be very balanced.
First up, Peggy Noonan's new piece, Hillary Clinton is a Stupid Bitch.
Mark Halperin, your take?
"Hillary clearly is a stupid bitch."
Carpe Carnim
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Why wouldn't it be? CableTV are all trying to capture FNCs demographic. Younger, more liberal viewers don't consume the news the same way the older demo does.
MSNBC and Air America tried to provide a relevant counter-balance, but younger viewers didn't care and they had to change, or went out of business.
What CNN and MSNBC will soon realize is that FNC viewers need their news with a particular apocalyptic bent that's hard to replicate, because it requires a lot of lying, obfuscation and cultural/rhetorical touchstones that scare off their more sane demos.
It's hard to capture the FNC demographic because Conservative media profits greatly from labeling other media outlets as liberal/left-wing propaganda. That's also why fact-checking is nearly useless to Republicans. They'd rather believe a baseless conspiracy theory than objective facts from a source they don't trust.
Carpe Carnim
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When does ironic hate-watching just become, watching?
Maybe Comedy Central needs a morning news show where they just invite writers from The Onion on to discuss news with Muppets. I'd watch it.
Aaron Strife
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NC is weird and can be misleading. Basically the state has been historically dominated by old Demosaurs (people who registered Democrat a long ass time ago and never switched even though they've started voting straight ticket GOP). Its blue shift can be attributed to young/minority voters who are more likely to register as independents, while GOP registration rates go up due to old Democrats switching parties so they can vote in primaries.
Basically it's more useful to look at race/age/etc demographics here than party ID. But I have no idea how that's going either, really.
How do you know it's impossible? By now they probably know exactly what they're looking for. They could have it wrapped up within a month.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Well as long as we're gaming out post-election indictment scenarios but not panicking
Abinash117
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What does Joe say matter?
He has been like for awhile, right so I don't see why people keep tuning in and not expect to get upset.
Carpe Carnim
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So after Clinton wins, and Dems retake the Senate, how long before talk turns to machinations of Filibuster reform, and the sclerotic Conservadems in disguise who will deny Queen her rightful Justices? Immediately? A week?
Morning Consult (Taken ENTIRELY after the Comey announcement)... Clinton's lead is unchanged in their poll:
Four-way:
C - 42
T - 39
Two-way:
C - 46
T - 43
"It is unlikely that there will be a dramatic shift in the polls before Election Day," said Morning Consult cofounder and Chief Research Officer Kyle Dropp. "While Friday's news may be considered an 'October Surprise,' it doesn't seem to be moving the needle as of now."
Also note that Morning Consult's numbers and spreads have been consistently lower than most this cycle. So this goes along with what YouGov and Monmouth said about the email stuff showing little effect.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/clinton-emails-comey-poll-politico-morning-consult-230519
balladofwindfishes
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Not sure
These last polls are the ones the pollsters are most judged on, so I think they'll want to be as close to the final margin as possible
Ya'll need Jesus. I can name two:
1. Said this is the biggest scandal since Watergate.
2. Suggested that postal workers would be throwing out Trump votes.
A Serious Man
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Are we getting any quality post-Comey polls today?
Also the tripling the U.S. population with refugees and immigrants
Joe Shlabotnik
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Clinton Inc is part of the Clinton Foundation brouhaha from last week that already feels three weeks old
It's hard to listen to between his rambling and Mika's way too dramatic reactions to routine commentary. I had it on for about 5 minutes. New Day is definitely better. Cuomo usually won't stand for anyone's bs.
Oh. Shocking new revelations!!!
newshinycd
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Guys, FBI doesn't indict. DOJ is the department that does that.
Aaron Strife
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Doesn't this only apply if you're a Nielsen household? Unless they changed things.
So according to a Harry Reid spokeswoman, there HAVE been classified briefings on the topic of Trump/Russia connections:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-evidence-free-claim-about-trump-and-russia/
Dude gives no fucks
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-evidence-free-claim-about-trump-and-russia/
Dude gives no fucks
nature boy
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SO TIGHT FOLKS KEEP WATCHING IF YOU BLINK YOU'LL MISS SOMETHING
I agree with this generally speaking. I'm not worried about Clinton losing so much as I am a. Downballot races and what that means for the Senate and b. Comey continuing to show his true colors as a bomb throwing partisan hack and indicting her shortly before Election Day or likely sometime between Nov 9 and the inauguration. The fact that he's not likely to say anything until well after the election means that you can't really stop worrying about this even if Clinton wins.
Morning Consult (Taken ENTIRELY after the Comey announcement)... Clinton's lead is unchanged in their poll:
Four-way:
C - 42
T - 39
Two-way:
C - 46
T - 43
"It is unlikely that there will be a dramatic shift in the polls before Election Day," said Morning Consult cofounder and Chief Research Officer Kyle Dropp. "While Friday's news may be considered an 'October Surprise,' it doesn't seem to be moving the needle as of now."
Also note that Morning Consult's numbers and spreads have been consistently lower than most this cycle. So this goes along with what YouGov and Monmouth said about the email stuff showing little effect.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/clinton-emails-comey-poll-politico-morning-consult-230519
metalslimer
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Er can't he be charged?
Officerrob
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There is little doubt that Trump, Manafort, etc. are under FBI investigation
Aaron Strife
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Same margin as the other day's right?
Comey can't indict. The FBI can recommend indictment to the DoJ and why would they do that
Let's be real, there was never any risk of Clinton going to jail or anything like that.
nature boy
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November Surprise: Comey reveals his bi-partisan give-no-fucks true colours as he releases letter stating FBI/DHS investigation into Trump, his campaign, and his senior staff.
(I wish. :'( )
It's only an October Surprise if people are surprised by it.
Trump is "The Boy who cried E-Mail" at this point and it's such a boring scandal (no action sequences like Benghazi, no sex scenes like Bill) that nobody outside his fanatical base cares anymore. If her numbers drop at all at this point, it won't be by much.
There simply aren't any tiny punches left for him to throw, he would have used them when the Access Hollywood tape broke.
Trump is "The Boy who cried E-Mail" at this point and it's such a boring scandal (no action sequences like Benghazi, no sex scenes like Bill) that nobody outside his fanatical base cares anymore. If her numbers drop at all at this point, it won't be by much.
There simply aren't any tiny punches left for him to throw, he would have used them when the Access Hollywood tape broke.
sturgboski
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I'm sure there is some sort of investigation that has to be going on. I mean if journalists were able to find Trump sending money into Cuba during the embargo, surely the FBI is investigating Trump on that. Then you have the Manafort situation which exploded over the summer as more and more information came to light from Eastern European organizations. And you also have Trump's son flat out stating a large amount of their money comes from Russian ruling class investors.
I have to imagine one of those or any other dart would stick and the FBi either has, is, or will be investigating. Regardless though, Reid's vagueness that can be speculated on is roughly as vague as Comey's letter.
nature boy
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It begins
Officerrob
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I'm cool with droppin that hardcore November oppo (people love the oppo)
Yes but the GOP will challenge the legitimacy of her win and fight her and the DoJ tooth and nail. Lawsuits galore. I.e. how is it legitimate to elect someone if the FBI is saying she should be indicted? And like I said before what if a bunch of faithless electors refuse to vote for her in the electoral college?
Good. And why should he? It's the end of his career. I just hope he doesn't get carried away
Beer Monkey
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Faithless Electors? That's some pro-level bed wetting.
metalslimer
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Please stop.
At this point I have zero confidence in Comey's intentions/his end game and if he goes scorched earth on Hillary, the GOP will follow him without hesitation
I understand I am talking absolute worst case scenario but I guess it's a way of just preparing for the worst
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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In what reality must one live to think that the Republicans were not going to fill the next 4-8 years with meaningless investigations and challenge the legitimacy of an HRC presidency?
newshinycd
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Don't think this has been posted yet. More of Trump being a literal projector.
Article
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120.html
Article
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120.html
Why do ya'll keep watching that back? He should be banned on GAF.
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