• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

PoliGAF 2016 |OT14| Attention NV shoppers, democracy is on sale in aisle 4!

Status
Not open for further replies.
B

banefirelord

Banned
Lord Frieza said:
This is a silly post to make when they've literally spent the entire month dissecting Trump as a sexual predator and mulling on whether the election was basically over.
Click to expand...
But think of what four years of guaranteed Trump stories and dissection could do for ratings!

(I wasn't being especially serious)
 
L

Lord Frieza

Member
Boke1879 said:
Yall gonna bedwet everyday about EV numbers in Florida, NC and Ohio aren't you?
Click to expand...

I think NC will be okay. Ohio has always been a toss up. I admit that I am a little worried about FL if turnout is really as depressed on the minority side as that article paints, but I don't know. I'm not worried about Hillary winning, but I would like the biggest win possible and losing Florida takes a decent chunk out of the electorate.
 
T

thepotatoman

Unconfirmed Member
Lord Frieza said:
This is a silly post to make when they've literally spent the entire month dissecting Trump as a sexual predator and mulling on whether the election was basically over.
Click to expand...

Yeah. This is mostly a desperate move to maintain the "both sides are bad" stance in order to try to avoid as many accusations of bias as they can, after having spent a month with a lot of insanely bad Trump stuff they had to cover and not much bad Hillary stuff worth covering.
 
S

sphagnum

Banned
Debirudog said:
The only thing I could think of is apathy and cynicism that Hillary won't do anything for them.
Click to expand...

Yes, basically. You guys here in PoliGAF have spent so much time defending Hillary and shooting down criticism (often, to be fair, unfounded) of her that you've forgotten that she's unpopular and millions of people do not like her even outside of Republicans. Many people, whether white, black, brown, whatever see her as emblematic of "the establishment", more of the same, a corrupt liar, etc. and view her talking about social justice issues with suspicion because they think she is simply another politician. Most people are not so obsessed with politics as we are that they spend more than a cursory amount of thought on this stuff, and if they get an idea in their head then they go with it. It doesn't help that Hillary constantly ends up getting into or being tied to petty scandals that keep this idea floating around in the cultural sea.

Be glad that Trump was her opponent, because she would have faced a very tough time otherwise.
 
L

Lord Frieza

Member
sphagnum said:
Yes, basically. You guys here in PoliGAF have spent so much time defending Hillary and shooting down criticism (often, to be fair, unfounded) of her that you've forgotten that she's unpopular and millions of people do not like her even outside of Republicans. Many people, whether white, black, brown, whatever see her as emblematic of "the establishment", more of the same, a corrupt liar, etc. and view her talking about social justice issues with suspicion because they think she is simply another politician. Most people are not so obsessed with politics as we are they they spend more than a cursory amount of thought on this stuff, and if they get an idea in their head then they go with it. It doesn't help that Hillary constantly ends up getting into or being tied to petty scandals that keep this idea floating around in the cultural sea.

Be glad that Trump was her opponent, because she would have faced a very tough time otherwise.
Click to expand...

I think most of us are well aware of this, actually, since both candidates unfavorable rating is brought up all the time. That still doesn't explain how they can't see the clear alternative to what she is on the other side.
 
T

Teggy

Member
I think I said this earlier, but shut up, Hugh Hewitt.

Hugh Hewitt
Hugh Hewitt‏ @hughhewitt

My #firstvote was for Gerald Ford--a good, honorable man. Thinking @DrJillStein is best option for young Ds
Click to expand...
 
P

Paches

Member
Iolo said:
Which would be worse. Trump sex tape or Christie sex tape?
Click to expand...

both.png
 
B

Boke1879

Member
Good thing. Over the next few days. Florida and NC are important places for Hillary and her surrogates. Hillary makes 3 stops there tomorrow. Bill is there as well. Obama makes a stop there this week as well.
 
C

Crocodile

Member
sphagnum said:
Yes, basically. You guys here in PoliGAF have spent so much time defending Hillary and shooting down criticism (often, to be fair, unfounded) of her that you've forgotten that she's unpopular and millions of people do not like her even outside of Republicans. Many people, whether white, black, brown, whatever see her as emblematic of "the establishment", more of the same, a corrupt liar, etc. and view her talking about social justice issues with suspicion because they think she is simply another politician. Most people are not so obsessed with politics as we are that they spend more than a cursory amount of thought on this stuff, and if they get an idea in their head then they go with it. It doesn't help that Hillary constantly ends up getting into or being tied to petty scandals that keep this idea floating around in the cultural sea.

Be glad that Trump was her opponent, because she would have faced a very tough time otherwise.
Click to expand...

A) I mean how much of her unfavorables are some mixture of sexism, being in the public eye for decades (where you are probably going to end up changing your positions on things) and being a target for Republican hit-pieces as opposed to her own human failings? There is nothing she can do to combat the former.

B) These are all early voting numbers rather than election day numbers and there have been clear attempts at trying to suppress the Black vote (which may also play into Election day) but I feel empowered to say, as a Black person, if you are able to vote and choose not to because "meh I'm just not feeling it/Clinton" you can go fuck yourself. With what is at stake? Go fuck yourself hard.
 
V

Voysa Reezun

Banned
CrazyDude said:
We are screwed, the more this goes on, the more I feel like we are going to lose do to depressed turnout. Poll mean nothing if people to go and vote.

This election is not helping my anxiety problems.
Click to expand...

If you look at the numbers and do the calculations, Trump clearly wins by four points due to depressed turnout.

We lose four seats in the Senate somehow too.

We're boned.
 
L

Lord Frieza

Member
CrazyDude said:
We are screwed, the more this goes on, the more I feel like we are going to lose do to depressed turnout. Poll mean nothing if people to go and vote.

This election is not helping my anxiety problems.
Click to expand...

This is only talking about Florida. It doesn't seem to be a national problem, at least not on a big scale.
 
B

Boke1879

Member
CrazyDude said:
We are screwed, the more this goes on, the more I feel like we are going to lose do to depressed turnout. Poll mean nothing if people to go and vote.

This election is not helping my anxiety problems.
Click to expand...

Take a step back and maybe not visit this thread for a few days.
 
M

Mizerman

Member
sphagnum said:
Yes, basically. You guys here in PoliGAF have spent so much time defending Hillary and shooting down criticism (often, to be fair, unfounded) of her that you've forgotten that she's unpopular and millions of people do not like her even outside of Republicans. Many people, whether white, black, brown, whatever see her as emblematic of "the establishment", more of the same, a corrupt liar, etc. and view her talking about social justice issues with suspicion because they think she is simply another politician. Most people are not so obsessed with politics as we are that they spend more than a cursory amount of thought on this stuff, and if they get an idea in their head then they go with it. It doesn't help that Hillary constantly ends up getting into or being tied to petty scandals that keep this idea floating around in the cultural sea.

Be glad that Trump was her opponent, because she would have faced a very tough time otherwise.
Click to expand...

Speaking as a Black person, if you somehow look at both Trump and Hillary, think that "both sides are the same" and choose not to go out a vote, then you need to go kick rocks for all of eternity. I got no time for special snowflakes with no ambition nor the drive to do something about.
 
C

Crimson_Gold

Member
Mizerman said:
Speaking as a black person, if you somehow look at both Trump and Hillary, think that "both sides are the same" and choose not to go out a vote, then you need to go kick rocks for all of eternity. I got no time for special snowflakes with no ambition nor the drive to do something about.
Click to expand...

Preach. I'm over the narrative and the attitude does nothing to help out situation. I don't see Hillary as a savior, but Trump and his supporters will bring nothing but chains and pain
 
B

Boke1879

Member
Mizerman said:
Speaking as a Black person, if you somehow look at both Trump and Hillary, think that "both sides are the same" and choose not to go out a vote, then you need to go kick rocks for all of eternity. I got no time for special snowflakes with no ambition nor the drive to do something about.
Click to expand...

Yea I'm sorry. I aint got time for that. There is a clear stark difference and if black people want to stay home then I don't want to hear any bitching from anyone who didn't vote if Trump because President and starts touting stop and frisk.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

  • Locked
PoliGAF 2017 |OT6| Made this thread during Harvey because the ratings would be higher
338 339 340 341 342
17K
2M
UselessNapkin replied
  • Locked
PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair
395 396 397 398 399
20K
2M
RDreamer replied
  • Locked
PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
396 397 398 399 400
20K
2M
ShironRedshift replied
  • Locked
PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| 13 Treasons Why
393 394 395 396 397
20K
2M
Zaraki_Kenpachi replied
  • Locked
Poligaf 2017 |OT| It Almost Isn't Fair
9
4K
Bonen no Max'd replied
Top Bottom