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Cuban-Americans voting for both Hillary and Marco
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Cuban-Americans voting for both Hillary and Marco
tedrotheredro
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Big increase in Hispanic voting, but they like the hispanic heritage guy and not the white guy.
BrokenFiction
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Dallas Woodhouse, NC State Exec Director of the GOP, brought props to show Hallie Jackson! How considerate!
If a poll is honest the results are always useful. You can discern a "lean" and account for it instead of throwing away useful data.
A Human Becoming
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Nothing more fun than arguing about Millennial cut off points!
Carpe Carnim
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I tend to view Millenials as the first generation with ubiquitous throw-away consumerism. Sandwich baggies, plastic bottles, planned obsolescence electronics. They were the first to have a culture that was built to revolve around a planned cycle of consumer products that would be taken over in a couple years by its updated predecessor.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Suffolk showing a tie in NH 42-42
Eventually generations will be 1 year long and people born in 2067 will be baffled at people born in 2068.
Now it gets interesting
Now it gets interesting
BreezyLimbo
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Ok glad I made the right choice. Kamala was a cooler sounding name so thats why I voted for her
Fuck now Trump will never be president
Manmademan
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The Hispanic vote showing up drastically vs 2012 aren't Cubans, they're Puerto Ricans.
PRs now outnumber Cubans in Florida due to massive immigration since 2010.
Puerto Ricans are hostile to Rubio and hostile to the republican party.
In addition black votes were up 33% as of yesterday vs. 2012.
No one breaking records here RE: turnout is going to be ticket splitting for Rubio.
Roland_Gunner
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I agree that the the Upshot model is the best one out right now but there is some truth to the argument that we should have less confidence in any model this year because of the lack of high quality polls. That makes a Trump win more likely but also means there is a better than appreciated chance that Clinton wins by 6 or 7 points.
Those are all traits of Generation Z, not Millennials. Maybe the tail end of Millennials, but the majority of them were well into high school and college before social media became a thing. Millennials came of age as these technologies first spread, Generation Z grew up with them.
Was born in 1980 too but I consider myself a Millennials since I feel I have nothing in common with people born in the 60's or early 70's.
You are literally describing the Millennial norm. You are one. The issue is that they're not cutting the timeline off early enough and keep including current teens, who are really a completely different generation.
whyamihere
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Suffolk NH LV
Trump: 42
Clinton: 42
Johnson: 5
Stein: 2
Undecided: 8
Trump: 42
Clinton: 42
Johnson: 5
Stein: 2
Undecided: 8
Voysa Reezun
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Uh, so is this an indicator that Manmademan's theory about a bunch of Puerto Rican first-time voters tilting the presidential (and maybe even Senate) race to the Democratic Party might just be true?
EDIT: LOL New Hampshire. The only state in the Union that cares about emails on a laptop, I guess.
Ticket splitting. Latinos voting Clinton, but voting for Rubio. It's a real possibility.
Basileus777
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PEC isn't a business, it's a hobby.
nature boy
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It's Suffolk folks - relax
Yeah, the kids a few years older than me ('84 here) are most definitely not Gen X. We were seeing Gen X on Real World when we were growing up.
So was 538.
cartoon_soldier
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So, NH is a tossup now.
Damn.
Damn.
DontBeThatGuy
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Yes.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Oppo-related news: people on Wilson's feed are saying the two huge news releases are hitting tomorrow. Wilson responded with a statement that he was "aware."
If it hits, tomorrow is the day.
Eh, that's 2 polls in 24 hours, and analysts are saying internal stuff says the same. It's a tight race there.
If it hits, tomorrow is the day.
Eh, that's 2 polls in 24 hours, and analysts are saying internal stuff says the same. It's a tight race there.
It might also depend on school funding.
My elementary school had at least one computer in every room. My parents gave me an old Apple II they found at a garage sale when I was 6 or 7 where I learned some rudimentary programming.
Born 88.
People need to just let this go. Not pointing a finger at you Plinko. There isn't anything coming. It's just wishful thinking at this point.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Oh, I'm definitely in the "there is nothing coming" category.
Same day we get Sombra revealed though, could be related.
metalslimer
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That is still a large amount of undecideds. I still don't think Trump comes anywhere close to winning NH
Edit: Well Cesare still said something was out there so if there is something it will be today or tomorrow.
Edit: Well Cesare still said something was out there so if there is something it will be today or tomorrow.
tedrotheredro
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Almost every big oppo story has hit on a Friday, so that's not exactly a stretch of a prediction. But that they think the media is "holding the news" and everyone in the know already knows, is ridiculous.
Carpe Carnim
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Gen Z is hyper connected and spend a lot more time interacting with friends and family. I don't know where you get this idea they're "individually focused"
They have overwhelming views that Climate Change is real, and that collective action is necessary to combat it. They have higher rates of volunteerism, and they tend to value "justice" and "communing" above all.
The kids are alright, but modern Socialism will have to expand on its views of Social Justice to stay relevant with a quickly diversifying Generation. That's my critique of where 21st Century Socialism is lacking; Intersectionality and Coalition Building
You're cool, though. No worries.
I feel like this is being said too much whenever there's an undesirable poll. Isn't Suffolk pretty decent?
metalslimer
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Law enforcement was a mistake.
I feel somewhat the same way, but the problem is there has been a lack of quality polling this cycle and a deluge of crap tier pollsters. I mean we also tend to call out when a poll is BS. Clinton is likely not up 1 in texas for instance.
Basileus777
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Unless you're suggesting that Sam Wang wants to leave his current career behind to launch a commercial website, I'm not sure why this matters.
Box of Kittens
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Recent polls in New Hampshire range from a sizable Clinton lead to basically a tie (except for ARG, but they're a joke pollster). Let's not freak out (he says futilely).
whyamihere
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Not particularly. They're not terrible but they're not wonderful.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I think the reason us 80s kids dont care to be lumped with the 90s brats is because we are in our 30s now. Whereas, the poor 90s kids are still in the early to mid 20s, still single, not a care in the world other than maybe getting a job and trying to get laid on Tinder. They are still immature compared to the 30+ year olds who have struggled through the recession, were old enough to really grasp the impact of 9/11 and the iraq war, and basically have seen some shit. Some of us are dads now and have more responsibilities than your average 25 year old millennial.
Besides, people tend to get more conservative as they get older. Probably why some of us supported Hillary over the ultra liberal Bernie who was so appealing to the millennials. I am sure once they get in their 30s and mid 30s, they will become a lot more tolerable.
Besides, people tend to get more conservative as they get older. Probably why some of us supported Hillary over the ultra liberal Bernie who was so appealing to the millennials. I am sure once they get in their 30s and mid 30s, they will become a lot more tolerable.
cartoon_soldier
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Everybody can unkew.
It's actually 3 polls now. Enten was saying another one dropped earlier showing Trump+1
TumblingHippo
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I really hope that America's wind farms are powered for decades after the sigh of relief that is released on Wednesday.
Well shit, going through this it really looks like someone is going to need to clean house at some point. That sounds utterly toxic.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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FBI is 'Trumpland', fanfuckingtastic
I think the delineation line between gen-x and millennials is certainly blurry, but I think what defines wether you're gen-x or a millennial depends on a lot of things.
For instance, I think having an older sibling or a cousin who is firmly a gen-xer can push you into gen-x depending on the influence said older sibling or cousin had on you.
Also, I was born in 1981, and I didn't consider myself a true millennial. I went back to college late and I took classes with a lot of millennials and because of that I consider myself a little more millennial now than I did before going back to school.
For instance, I think having an older sibling or a cousin who is firmly a gen-xer can push you into gen-x depending on the influence said older sibling or cousin had on you.
Also, I was born in 1981, and I didn't consider myself a true millennial. I went back to college late and I took classes with a lot of millennials and because of that I consider myself a little more millennial now than I did before going back to school.
I don't know why we're freaking out over this. Some act like when a poll like this is released it means all is lost. That's my main issue when polls are released and one shows that it's close or a tie. Some automatically think it's going Trump.
Do we have any evidence that's the case?
Do we have any evidence that's the case?
The Lamonster
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Welp, I'm thinking there is no second video.
nature boy
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Not great nor terrible, but their 2012 debacle still trashes their reputation.
Besides, Trump didn't gain support, Clinton lost some (AKA enthusiasm to vote, AKA PHANTOM SWINGS)
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