Fragamemnon
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Someone needs to light up Chaffetz for this garbage. He's did a completely irresponsible extrapolation and the media bought it without question.
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maquiladora
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Of course. That's in their interest. The more drama, the more viewers.
Manmademan
Member
exactly, thus the timing.
Some are already changing their headlines to more cautions "related to Hillary" or "possibly" and it's going to go downhill from there.
If what Pete Williams is saying is true, and it looks like it is, then this whole thing will just hit Comey in the face even more than it did Hillary. Although I don't doubt she got quite the slap from the first headlines too.
I was driving and my phone went nuts with alerts from national and local media.
They played it really bad again. If they had just shut up in July about it for a bit and then ignored the Podesta emails, they could have made a really big BIG deal about it now.
But people just can't follow the story anymore. It's been a drip, drip, drip of nothingness for too many months. Your mind is already made up about this.
Veritigo_X
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Yep. If he wanted to say anything he would've said something to begin with instead of sending that vague ass memo.
Joe Molotov
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Doesn't rule out Benghazi.
RustyNails
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No doubt.
Media running with Chaffetz' spin as the lede instead of actual letter's contents.
So let me get this straight. According to the FBI the email investigation was never closed but Comey decided to release this statement with vague implications? Give me a break, this is completely political on his part and he must answer for this bullshit. If the investigation was never closed then he had no need to release that statement while an investigation was ongoing.
Dude can't handle Clinton in a trial at all. Pressed her and he got nothing. Wounded pride.
EDIT: it amazes me how much damage the media could potentially cause by spreading misinformation. Now, there's probably gonna do anything but it's still such a shitty thought. Reckless and irresponsible journalism.
Manmademan
Member
yep.
This is in the same category "Benghazi" is. the RWM beats the hell out of it because its red meat to the base, but exactly what the issue IS, is lost on average voters who tune it out after the billionth time.
Wikileaks hasn't done them any favors. constant drops of nothing have turned that into background noise too.
Poodlestrike
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Comey's really got to make a statement, it's the responsible thing to do at this point.
Also: I gotta say, I agree a bit with Metsfan. Both sides are not the same, but I don't see any problem calling out poor behavior when it comes outta the side I agree with. Seeing bad news and rushing to discredit/other the person who delivered it is a bit... well, shit. Is it possible that Comey did this deliberately towards partisan ends? Sure. But jumping to conclusions and demonizing the man doesn't do any good.
I say, keep calm, it's almost certainly nothing significant. If there was anything to find, I'm reasonably certain that the dozens of very well supported efforts to destroy Clinton would've come across it by now. Worst case scenario, this feeds a media hungry for a horse race narrative, and we have to put up with a few days of "OMG EMAILZZZZZZZ" before Trump inevitably says and/or does something horrific and that becomes the story again, and we win anyway. Hell, that second to last bit doesn't even have to happen, the lead is baked in at this point.
Also: I gotta say, I agree a bit with Metsfan. Both sides are not the same, but I don't see any problem calling out poor behavior when it comes outta the side I agree with. Seeing bad news and rushing to discredit/other the person who delivered it is a bit... well, shit. Is it possible that Comey did this deliberately towards partisan ends? Sure. But jumping to conclusions and demonizing the man doesn't do any good.
I say, keep calm, it's almost certainly nothing significant. If there was anything to find, I'm reasonably certain that the dozens of very well supported efforts to destroy Clinton would've come across it by now. Worst case scenario, this feeds a media hungry for a horse race narrative, and we have to put up with a few days of "OMG EMAILZZZZZZZ" before Trump inevitably says and/or does something horrific and that becomes the story again, and we win anyway. Hell, that second to last bit doesn't even have to happen, the lead is baked in at this point.
Seriously. That's a major WTF here. Of course CNN isn't going to change their story. They have their horse race material now until election day.
SuperfireCorman
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I completely agree. I was just talking to my friend about this at lunch today. Democrats (and liberals in general) tend to not be aggressive enough. If the GOP want to play hard ball, then you play harder ball back. It also applies to Trump, he's a classic bully and the best way to deal with a bully is to break his nose.
She needs to make an example of this guy and anyone else who crosses her path. It's exactly what I would do. Who cares how people see it, people come at you, you go back at them twice as hard.
He needed something positive after looking like a total fool for re-endorsing Trump.
I am tired when only republicans get away with playing dirty and corrupt politics. They intimidate elected officials into getting what they want and Democrats don't do anything about it.
Seriously. If Comey is not going to elaborate until after election day can we get a statement from the WH or Hillary campaign condemning and requesting clarification of this clearly partisan stunt?
It's not going to happen. Not in a million years.
Poodlestrike
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I completely agree that Democrats need to be more aggressive, but c'mon, punishing your political opponents is not okay.
The real problem, imo, is that Dems are willing to accept the Republican premise so much of the time, and are so unwilling to attack them for their many failures and hypocrisies. It took a Trump-tier candidate for the knives to really come out, and that's still mostly confined to him. But that's totally unrelated to the Comey thing.
The story broke a couple of hours ago, lol. Give it a bit.
RustyNails
Member
LMAO
Fragamemnon
Member
He's running for Issa's old seat, i.e. Tormenter-in-chief.
Democrat partisans should be incensed by this whole thing and should be MORE motivated to volunteer in the final days of the season. There's no way to spin this other than it being a clearly partisan attack at the end of the election.
Trump wasn't capable of delivering effective attacks on Clinton anymore-the debates took that away from him. That's why this stinks so much-they needed to attack Clinton but it had to come from another angle and WHAM this garbaggio.
Jesus Christ.
Hooligan69
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Well, with this new email shit, that just may happen. #bedwetting
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
Getting there.
balladofwindfishes
Member
So this is indeed a ground nothing sandwich made of nothing that isn't anything
How embarassing
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Doesn't matter, Chaffetz got exactly what he wanted.
And it's still basically fucking bullshit. Chaffetz baited them all.
The press realized how hard they got spun and are trying to break out of it.
Lock her up...
Almost there AP, you can do it. There's still the "emails aren't even from Hillary herself" part.
Officerrob
Banned
This is all just ridiculous
So how exactly are these related to the investigation? LOL
RustyNails
Member
Comey Clown Shoes
Not related to the private server at all! But still felt the urgency to send a letter to feeding frenzy. Woww
Step down, guy
Not related to the private server at all! But still felt the urgency to send a letter to feeding frenzy. Woww
Step down, guy
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
They are probably corroborating the info, but at least they are putting in the work before the evening news runs with it.
Basileus777
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Headlines or cable news talk at midday on a Friday are irrelevant. The question is what form the story takes from here.
GutsOfThor
Member
Who gives a fuck what it looks like?
That's the problem with Democrats. They are too concerned with how things "look"
FloydtheFathead
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whyamihere
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I cannot wait for this fucking election to be over.
Atleast then we won't be losing our heads over every tiny bit of email news.
People laugh about diablosing, but the real truth is that everything affects Hillary twenty times more than it should, while the opposite is true for Trump.
I don't think that it's possible to stop a Clinton presidency, but it's just priming the public to hate Clinton on any kind of frivolous piece of shit information. And it sucks. And even if a Clinton presidency is inevitable, it doesn't change that I want this to be one of the biggest landslide victories of any election, because that's what it should be.
I'm just sick of the bullshit. Why can't we just have a normal fucking political competition?
Atleast then we won't be losing our heads over every tiny bit of email news.
People laugh about diablosing, but the real truth is that everything affects Hillary twenty times more than it should, while the opposite is true for Trump.
I don't think that it's possible to stop a Clinton presidency, but it's just priming the public to hate Clinton on any kind of frivolous piece of shit information. And it sucks. And even if a Clinton presidency is inevitable, it doesn't change that I want this to be one of the biggest landslide victories of any election, because that's what it should be.
I'm just sick of the bullshit. Why can't we just have a normal fucking political competition?
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