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[TestOfTide]

In a vacuum I would like for the Democrats to do better with rural whites. If we could substantially improve our performance without hurting ourselves elsewhere, great. The issue is, and I speak here as someone who spends a fair amount of time visit relatives in rural areas, that I have a hard time seeing how to do so without alienating other voters who are part of the base or otherwise low-hanging fruit that would be easier to persuade. In a country that is becoming increasingly urban and diverse I do not think that tradeoff is worth it.

There is no way to appeal to most rural whites, particularly Tea Party types. They are then ones who have been for years demanding that the GOP nominate someone like Trump.

The closest thing we COULD do is have Democrats try to create narratives for inclusive mindsets in ways that make social conservatism VERY unlikable to rural whites who lean more Libertarian than Tea Party.

That way we could start becoming more competitive in states like Alaska and Wyoming and solidify holds on states like NH and Maine.

I really think there is potential to isolate the deplorables and make the Democratic Big Tent end up including everyone who isn't a deplorable.

 

[Ferd2]

Sounds like Uber and Lyft are giving free rides all day in Philly on Nov 8.



Bruh. That's Ohio. We look like a bust of Abraham Lincoln and Minnesota is our top hat.

Oh, shit. You got me there. There are other remnants of mound culture in Iowa. Here they are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effigy_Mounds_National_Monument

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Final Breitbart/Gravis national poll of the year.





Hillary+2

 

[kevin1025]

... Someone might have been having a seizure that started the fight?



.... This one is really strange.

https://twitter.com/JTSantucci/status/795079993072070656

Lock that man up, he has the Hillary disease!

Also, that's the second time Trump looked ultra weak getting grabbed by the Secret Service. Something about the way he reacts looks super ineffectual.

 

[UraMallas]

The reality is Obama barely beat Hillary, while Hillary smoked Bernie.

Uh. In Iowa? Nah.

Oh, shit. You got me there. There are other remnants of mound culture in Iowa. Here they are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effigy_Mounds_National_Monument

Been there. Drank beer there.

Speaking of drinking that's really the only thing you can do here. Des Moines is absolutely a great place to live, though. I currently live in Des Moines and I love it. Bought a nice 2 bed, 2 bath condo in a pretty good part of town for 85k this year. Wages are pretty decent and cost of living is cheap for a small city.

 

[kess]

Lock that man up, he has the Hillary disease!

Also, that's the second time Trump looked ultra weak getting grabbed by the Secret Service. Something about the way he reacts looks super ineffectual.

First time was one of the best gifs of the cycle

 

[Grief.exe]

Uh. In Iowa? Nah.

No you're exactly right, I should have picked that up from the context. I thought you were referring to the entire primary race.

 

[Slayven]

One of the few trends of this year that works my last nerves is "Democrats has abandoned poor whites and make fun of them"

And people tap dance around the truth, that Democrats aren't racist enough for them.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Just came out of the bill maher show at msg. Really good show and much better than last I saw him, but you can tell he's bedwetting lol

He needs some Hopium badly!!

 

[kevin1025]

First time was one of the best gifs of the cycle

Haha yep, one of my favorites!

 

[thefro]

lol, the Selzer poll made Clinton go up 0.2% in the 538 Forecast

 

[Zackat]

It's so easy for people's minds to be poisoned these days. They have infinite sources to get bad information, while the reality often takes longer to properly research.

I found the image I was looking for.

The reality is Obama barely beat Hillary, while Hillary smoked Bernie.

Mississippi lookin pretty light there... the exodus from that state must be real.

 

[Y2Kev]

Stefan Becket ‏@becket 8h8 hours ago
Clinton will air 2 minute national TV ad on "the shows with the largest audience available on Monday night" — The Voice and Kevin Can Wait

Oh god I am not watching either of those

 

[HTupolev]

r/The_Donald discovered the email where Hillary asked Colin how he used email while he was in office. They are acting like this is the smoking gun that will incriminate both of them.

...

It's literally strictly based on an email that the Democrats themselves released a while ago and which has been discussed and analyzed quite bit.

 

[Xamtheking]

Oh god I am not watching either of those

The Voice isn't THAT bad

 

[royalan]

One of the few trends of this year that works my last nerves is "Democrats has abandoned poor whites and make fun of them"

And people tap dance around the truth, that Democrats aren't racist enough for them.

SAY IT AGAIN

One of the few trends of this year that works my last nerves is "Democrats has abandoned poor whites and make fun of them"

And people tap dance around the truth, that Democrats aren't racist enough for them.

ONE MORE TIME

And people tap dance around the truth, that Democrats aren't racist enough for them.

 

[Dr. Worm]

beaten, nvm

 

[Y2Kev]

lol, the Selzer poll made Clinton go up 0.2% in the 538 Forecast

The adjusted leader is smaller vs. the last poll. Dunno why.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

In other news, our final Breitbart/Gravis poll is finally gracing us.

Clinton +2....

 

[AntraxSuicide]

In a vacuum I would like for the Democrats to do better with rural whites. If we could substantially improve our performance without hurting ourselves elsewhere, great. The issue is, and I speak here as someone who spends a fair amount of time visit relatives in rural areas, that I have a hard time seeing how to do so without alienating other voters who are part of the base or otherwise low-hanging fruit that would be easier to persuade. In a country that is becoming increasingly urban and diverse I do not think that tradeoff is worth it.

I'm in total agreement with you. I live in rural MS, so it's more slanted against the Dems here than other places, but there's really no appealing to these places without basically throwing minorities under the bus. And you're totally correct; the population shifts make such appeals a bad deal. Iowa is not going to be gaining voters in the way that North Carolina, Georgia, or Arizona will.

 

[UraMallas]

beaten, nvm

Bleep bloop delete.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Also, seems a waste not to run the ad on monday night football.

 

[Strimei]

Ridiculous. School lunches were never edible.

I actually really liked the food my cafeteria served in high school (this was in the early 00's, mind). Of course there were certain ones to avoid, but there were ones that were terrific.

Taco "salad" especially. God I loved that gooey, cheesy mess.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

So, what happened was...

1. Guy starts having a seizure and accidentally causes a fight because of hitting someone...

2. Someone raises a sign to do the "TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP" stuff that happens when people think they see disruptive protesters.

3. Another person sees the person raising the sign and thinks they're raising a gun and shouts "Gun!"


............... This is just fucking madness.

https://twitter.com/marcambinder/status/795080972278468608


Also, why is Michael Tracey immediately arguing with this dude over the Hillary emails, what the fuck?

 

[rokkerkory]

On a scale of worried im about a 3.5 at this point. HRC got this.

How are u guys feeling?

 

[Officerrob]

lol, the Selzer poll made Clinton go up 0.2% in the 538 Forecast

Yeah, because that makes sense

 

[Already Torn]

r/The_Donald discovered the email where Hillary asked Colin how he used email while he was in office. They are acting like this is the smoking gun that will incriminate both of them.

Vermont and Colorado are very well educated, make it difficult to impossible for Republicans to make in roads.

"Not a drill"

 

[UraMallas]

I'm in total agreement with you. I live in rural MS, so it's more slanted against the Dems here than other places, but there's really no appealing to these places without basically throwing minorities under the bus. And you're totally correct; the population shifts make such appeals a bad deal. Iowa is not going to be gaining voters in the way that North Carolina, Georgia, or Arizona will.

I agree that the dems shouldn't pander to the racists uneducated white people in IA. As an Iowan, I obviously have a vested interest in seeing it succeed for me and my family's sake. I guess that's what the Senate if for - to make sure there is a body that is equally representing us. Problem being, we have to idiot senators since Harkin left.

On a scale of worried im about a 3.5 at this point. HRC got this.

How are u guys feeling?

1.25 Hillary is about to fucking roll.

 

[BotoxAgent]

On a scale of worried im about a 3.5 at this point. HRC got this.

How are u guys feeling?

Clinton 3, senate 9 on the worry scale

 

[kess]

I guess it also helps that Vermont is a nice looking state that tries to keep itself looking halfway decent and attracting interesting people instead of blowing their mountains to smithereens and selling a resource that no one wants anymore.

West Virginia is like bizarro Vermont

 

[StormBrute]

On a scale of worried im about a 3.5 at this point. HRC got this.

How are u guys feeling?

All I'm worried about is Kander, Ross, Bayh, and Murphy.

I think Ross has got it from coattails. Kander and Bayh are in rougher shape because they have to do all by themselves, no benefit from the top of the ticket.

Still holding out hope for Murphy to squeak past on HRC's very long coattails!

 

[UraMallas]

Oh, I didn't think about the Senate.

Hillary 1.25, Senate 7.75. I use Game Informer metrics - fuck off.

My worry with the Senate revolves around Kaine's seat and what it means for delaying the SCOTUS nom. I think we need 51 seats to make sure there isn't any more fuckery.

 

[Slayven]

SAY IT AGAIN



ONE MORE TIME

Actually let me expand on that, Democrats just not bigoted enough. I keep forgetting HB2, the GOP and their base are so concerned about where some one shits that they costed their state literally billions of dollars in jobs and taxes.

 

[Y2Kev]

Harry Enten da gawd

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ed-in-iowa-and-it-may-hurt-democrats-in-2016/

 

[Already Torn]

I guess it also helps that Vermont is a nice looking state that tries to keep itself looking halfway decent and attracting interesting people instead of blowing thier mountains to smithereens and selling a resource that no one wants anymore.

West Virginia is like bizarro Vermont

Does no one in Vermont ever wear camo?

 

[shinra-bansho]

Joni Ernst and Young.

 

[Y2Kev]

Oh, I didn't think about the Senate.

Hillary 1.25, Senate 7.75. I use Game Informer metrics - fuck off.

My worry with the Senate revolves around Kaine's seat and what it means for delaying the SCOTUS nom. I think we need 51 seats to make sure there isn't any more fuckery.

Governor of VA is a D and will appoint a D. We will have one year.

We need to nuke the Philadelphia buster and get RBG to retire.

 

[Debirudog]

Clinton 4, Senate 10.

 

[Xamtheking]

Joni Ernst and Young.

Always been meaning to ask you this but never knew the right time to ask
Why are you Y2Kev upside down?

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

I really hope no one from Anonymous or 4chan finds out who raised that sign that another Trump supporter mistook for a gun.

These people will seriously try to ruin his life because they think he was trying to assassinate Trump.

 

[Y2Kev]

Steve Schale ‏@steveschale 1h1 hour ago Orlando, FL
The trend lines in Magic game are looking good for the home team. 6 long minutes to go, but momentum definitely on their side.#NeverWizards
0 replies 1 retweet 25 likes

Steve Schalesus subtweeting Trash Nate across topics? I can't even

 

[Y2Kev]

Always been meaning to ask you this but never knew the right time to ask
Why are you Y2Kev upside down?

Yes

 

[Xamtheking]

Yes

Where do I donate to the Mod Team

 

[Ecotic]

On a scale of worried im about a 3.5 at this point. HRC got this.

How are u guys feeling?

About a 7. It's not necessarily a reflection on her chances, just because I can't live in Trump's America, and Hillary's victory will turn this into the Obama era much like H.W. Bush's victory cemented the Reagan era. Democrats have a chance here at a long winning streak due to demographics.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

"This guy thinks we need to rethink the elite consensus on trade" https://t.co/rI1BRLnrtD

 

[banefirelord]

Off topic, but I spend most of my time in this community and it doesn't warrant a new thread...if I want to argue to change my GAF login email to a free email (my .edu associated with this account is expiring next month) is there a particular mod I should contact?

 

[Slayven]

Steve Schalesus subtweeting Trash Nate across topics? I can't even

"Magic city" made me do a double take

 

[TestOfTide]

On a scale of worried im about a 3.5 at this point. HRC got this.

How are u guys feeling?

Out of 10:

I'm a 1 in terms of fearing Trump winning. Not happening.

I'm a 6 in terms of Clinton not winning in a landslide. That is a concern of mine because it would mean the deplorables are GROWING when we need them to be shrinking.

I'm a 4 in terms of the Senate and it's mainly that low because Dems have the clear GOTV advantage.

 

[Xamtheking]

Off topic, but I spend most of my time in this community and it doesn't warrant a new thread...if I want to argue to change my GAF login email to a free email (my .edu associated with this account is expiring next month) is there a particular mod I should contact?

I think Stumpt is a good one

 

[banefirelord]

I think Stumpt is a good one

Thank you.