Brawndo Addict
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Still waiting on that so-called impending oppo...
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Carpe Carnim
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@PatrickSvitek
Number of early voters in Texas, in person and by mail, per @VoteTexas:
- 2012: 3,407,497
- 2016: 4,497,431
--> 32 percent increase
7.87mil total votes cast in TX, in 2012
They're gonna disappoint you, bro. But I love the optimism.
I want to believe!...
TheCochese
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Somewhat similar story. Voted R all four times I was eligible, but a few years ago started questioning the things I believed in. Not in college by any stretch anymore, but it's those personal interactions you have with people that makes you question why you should want to treat them like shit.
It's been a steady trend since.
New oppo hit or are you still hoping for the Russian orgy tape?
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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The whole thing at the Trump rally was because of a 'Republicans Against Trump' sign.
Brawndo Addict
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No I never believed in that mythical oppo crap, I just like bringing it up since people were so irrational about it being real. I guess the strategy is to release it after the election, when nobody expects it
DontBeThatGuy
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Sure thing, grandpa.
Manmademan
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True. Republicans were about 16% over dems in 2012 though.
you get that down into single digits, and it's panic time for the GOP.
I'd be happy with flipping a house seat, and diverting money away from the rest of the country for the next couple of cycles- because if Texas turns into a swing state (under 5% or so) it's over for them.
Depends, we'd have to lose Kennedy to get a 6-3 advantage. It's got an outside shot of happening, he's 80, so if Hillary had two terms, he might retire for health reasons before she's up.
You'd want to replace Ginsburg and Breyer on the liberal side, Ginsburg being 83 and Breyer 78.
Everyone under those 3 is too young to really see any of them leaving in the next 8 years. I think Clarence Thomas is the next oldest at 68.
BigJonsson
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Is it over yet? I have to start bedwetting over the Ontario Provincial election in 2 years!
...now I'm back to not knowing Utah. At least Iowa is sorted out?
I can tell you that Utah will go for Trump from what I've been hearing around here.
soundscream
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Trump's social media guy retweeted this. I hope he got paid in advance
Hey.....paper cuts can hurt.....like a lot.
@PatrickSvitek
Number of early voters in Texas, in person and by mail, per @VoteTexas:
- 2012: 3,407,497
- 2016: 4,497,431
--> 32 percent increase
Nope. I refuse to get hype.
Manmademan
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I think we'll end up replacing ginsburg, scalia, and breyer in clinton's first term. Kennedy gets a lot of (undeserved) credit for being a moderate, but he's really conservative on everything outside of abortion. I can see him just holding out until he dies in office, which might be hillary term #2.
Carpe Carnim
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Yeah, like i've been saying, it's a cascade effect. You get the GOP to +5 or less, and you start to convince some of the South Tejas communities that they can weild power, state-wide. Texas isn't ruby-red cause they're a Conservative Mecca, it's because Dems and Liberals don't vote; they've been taught that over a generation. Hell, Oops! Perry was a Democrat before he saw the writing on the wall.
Aaron Strife
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PPP said Ohio's been within a point every time (4) they've polled it this past month. Trump winning it wouldn't surprise me but don't count Hillary out.
Oppo will drop an hour after polls close. Trump will never recover!
McMuffin taking Utah just to further increase Trump's EV loss is my hope.
DontBeThatGuy
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She certainly has the ground game/surrogates to pull it off.
Hillary's making a huge push so it's definitely closer than Iowa.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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That was close to a 2 hour wait in that fucking line in Orlando. This might have been my first and last time voting, for real. Ain't nobody got time for that. Well, I guess I can always do absentee, so that could be okay.
I reluctantly, hesitantly voted for Clinton - Kaine. Enthusiastically voted against Little Marco (was gonna go with a NPA candidate, but knew he had no chance of winning, so picked the DEM one.). Going downballot to other candidates and I had no idea who they were so I decided on the spot to vote for NPA whenever possible and DEM if not possible. That ended up being all but two choices, IIRC. Then I voted NO on Amendment 1, YES on 2, 3, 5. There were some other random crap and people that I had no idea about, so I just left them blank.
So, this "Trump supporter" - as I was being called yesterday - voted almost all dem.
As a side note, I think FL will be competitive as fuck. For every Clinton - Kaine sign, I see about 7-10 Trump - Pence signs. That's not an exaggeration. It includes rural and urban areas. I actually saw a big ass sign on I4 between Lakeland and Tampa that reads, "I'm a deplorable and I am voting for TRUMP" or something like that.
I reluctantly, hesitantly voted for Clinton - Kaine. Enthusiastically voted against Little Marco (was gonna go with a NPA candidate, but knew he had no chance of winning, so picked the DEM one.). Going downballot to other candidates and I had no idea who they were so I decided on the spot to vote for NPA whenever possible and DEM if not possible. That ended up being all but two choices, IIRC. Then I voted NO on Amendment 1, YES on 2, 3, 5. There were some other random crap and people that I had no idea about, so I just left them blank.
So, this "Trump supporter" - as I was being called yesterday - voted almost all dem.
As a side note, I think FL will be competitive as fuck. For every Clinton - Kaine sign, I see about 7-10 Trump - Pence signs. That's not an exaggeration. It includes rural and urban areas. I actually saw a big ass sign on I4 between Lakeland and Tampa that reads, "I'm a deplorable and I am voting for TRUMP" or something like that.
Yeah, I'm not sure Kennedy will retire willingly with a Democrat in the White House.
We don't really need a 6-3 advantage, 5-4 would be more than enough as long as they are all relatively young.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Depending on how Trump plays it, this "assassination attempt" story may end up dumber than #SpiritCooking
TheCochese
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Just made my first ever campaign contribution, just to say I could.
Deplorables out in full force
Tangentially, I'm curious, does the Clinton campaign have much of a GOTV game in Utah? I know they've spent money on ads there.
balladofwindfishes
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You should be careful with the NPA candidates. Some of them are looney tunes. Or actual members of the KKK.
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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You only have yourself to blame if you're in line in Florida. They really couldn't make absentee voting any easier unless they hand-delivered it to you and rubbed your shoulders while you filled it out.
Carpe Carnim
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Florida is always close. Since 1992, there is less than 70k votes, out of tens of millions that separate the two parties.
But thanks for not voting for a moronic, orange fascist
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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That would be nice....
Really though, all I need is an app and a website where I can go, enter my information and vote. Boom. Done. It's 2016. No reason to not have that option.
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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Because make-believe is a lot more fun than reality.
Plenty of reasons, actually...
soundahfekz
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You in GR too? Just RSVP'd for Hilldawg's event Monday
NO
NO NO NO
HAVE YOU BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED THIS YEAR.
LITERALLY EVERYTHING HAS GOTTEN HACKED.
Thanks to 2016 we will probably never get online voting and THANK GOD for that.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Can someone fire this dumbfuck?
This is a fireable offense 100% if you operate based in reality.
This is a fireable offense 100% if you operate based in reality.
Plenty of assassination attempts end with the would be assassin being released with no charges.
Wait...that doesn't seem right.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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Enlighten me.
lul I moved out of Ontario in favor of California and I'm better for it politically. Horwath is the only one who can stop Brown and (southern) Ontario still sucks too much to electi an NDP government. Sorry.
EmCeeGramr
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finowns
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Yes there is. Like actual voter fraud concerns.
Voting machines are bad enough, putting it online is way, way worse.
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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BigJonsson
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Do voting by mail in the future and never look back. I foresee it getting bigger and bigger in Florida each cycle, just like in California, where now about 60% of voters vote by mail in elections. It might even be higher than that this year here.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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I have done contract work for the DOJ, NSA, and USCIS. None of the stuff they really want to protect ever gets hacked. This is not PSN, if the government wanted something really secure, they could build it.
I would argue that - with a robust system in place - it would address fraud concerns much better than the antiquated voting system and machine they have in place at the polling place now.
Cute.
I dunno. President Cristina Grappo was not an NPA!
Roland_Gunner
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Since the guy was a Republican who was released one hour after it happened you should own him hard. Or was the secret service in on it??
...you do realize the State Department got hacked this year, right?
Our government gets hacked all the time by China.
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