The letter was needed simply because the emails may be tied to Clinton in some way. Which is why he should have been more open about what he was doing instead of vague.
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The letter was needed simply because the emails may be tied to Clinton in some way. Which is why he should have been more open about what he was doing instead of vague.
Well, one area where both parties can work together on is the impeachment of JIm Comey
I just started to watch the news and it still looks like an unnecessary amount of damage control from the Dem side. We just don't need this shit.
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Yeah, but why not include that info to person the investigation is about?
Unless it was supposed to remain a secret?
And trying to get would-be Hillary voters to stay home is Trump's only real strategy at this point.
Comey knew what the GOP would do the minute they got the letter lol
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My argument is based on the fact that I don't think he was trying to please anyone. I think he was, honest to goodness, just explaining the results of the probe. Saying she was careless is, you know, kind of not 100% wrong? What Powell did was careless. I feel like had he come out and said "This is a disqualifying thing, and she should probably never run for office" then, yes. 100% politics.
It's kind of like when I used to work for an eye doctor. I did something for a patient that wasn't wrong (in that it didn't violate law or policy or anything) but I still shouldn't have done it. The doctor was within her right to say "Hey, that was stupid." She wasn't my boss. She didn't have the right to fire me, but she was responsible for looking into what I did, and it was fine that she did it.
But, yes, no one could be happy with what would come out of the investigation. Period. Full stop. No one. SO, that's why I'm not okay with calling for Comey to be fired.
Well, also because that would be just the dumbest thing possible! The optics (gag) of that would be absolutely terrible.
shinra-bansho
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Oh new emails from Huma Liabiledin.
Trump has won. Game over man. Game over.
Trump has won. Game over man. Game over.
It seems clear to me he didn't intend for the letter to be leaked. That's my speculation but everything he did points to that. He didn't notify her because he didn't expect her to need to react to it.
whyamihere
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I mean, maybe, but I don't really find it that awful and probably something that won't have a lot of legs unless Comey gives a statement.
Because it apparently doesn't even have anything to do with her! That's why it's bullshit.
Joe Shlabotnik
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I have ONE BEER in the fridge? oh man that will NOT do
RustyNails
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Theres bad optics sure. But there is no waffling here. Pushback from Democrats is legit. Chaffetz primed the release for maximum damage. Comey fucked the pooch completely by being over eager to release everything he's doing. Oh hey Comey, any updates on how the investigation into Pam Bondi is coming along? Maybe send congress a 3 paragraph letter?
Only if you already voted 10-15 times.
And she's absolutely right in calling on him to clarify.
She handled the presser well. about all she can do. All she has to do now is keep on with her campaign.
Of course there will be "damage control' from dems, but that's because you can't handwave this shit. best to get out in front of it now and see where you are in two days.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Let me tell you, one beer will not do it
CoffeeJanitor
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What a mess
I think it's a good idea to watch early voting over the next few days and see if trends change. Granted, early voters are often partisans, but if you see NC voting like suddenly die then we know it's bad.
They are not emails that have been previously reviewed, but that does not mean the text had not been previously reviewed. For example:
Email 1: Hillary is a bitch
Email 2: FW: Hillary is a bitch
Email 1 and 2 are distinct even though they are the same email.
They are not emails that have been previously reviewed, but that does not mean the text had not been previously reviewed. For example:
Email 1: Hillary is a bitch
Email 2: FW: Hillary is a bitch
Email 1 and 2 are distinct even though they are the same email.
But that's 7 Morning Joe's you'll be missing. And ten 538 Elections podcasts.
I suspect a lot of black people will be voting on Sunday.
Qwerty710710
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Dems aren't going to stay home over this. It's not even Clinton's fault.
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I could make you a cocktail.
Yeah, I guess I'm being naïve here. No fucks given indeed.
You know.. if the emails were either from or send to the email server... and they investigated the email server.. then I am very certain they already had these emails from the other side of the conversation one way or another.
I am not sure there is anything new unless these are "the missing 33000 emails(trumptrademark)" we keep hearing about from the republicans.
Besides that , so far this has nothing to do with Hillary other then the fact it came from the same server . If they had a state server the same emails would probably be sent as well.
Often you CAN send emails from work to an outside address..
so much crazy over nothing (yet)
I am not sure there is anything new unless these are "the missing 33000 emails(trumptrademark)" we keep hearing about from the republicans.
Besides that , so far this has nothing to do with Hillary other then the fact it came from the same server . If they had a state server the same emails would probably be sent as well.
Often you CAN send emails from work to an outside address..
so much crazy over nothing (yet)
The news media has shown through the Wikileaks stuff they actually enjoy leaks. It is investigative reporting made easy for them.
whyamihere
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Exactly. We'll even get some numbers tonight.
CoffeeJanitor
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The critical question is if these were found in the original set that was reviewed in the investigation.
If these are new that could be bad.
If these are new that could be bad.
Not necessarily. What I imagine is that there COULD be a lot of the 33k emails that were "deleted." Like, for example, "Huma, what should I wear today?" would not have been turned over to the state dept. Probably. BUT I doubt there are any emails sent BY hillary TO huma on a non-state email. If Huma forwarded classified emails sent to huma@state.gov to huma@gmail.com, then I bet she's fucked.
IF numbers dwindle. I doubt you'll see it today or tomorrow.
wumster3000
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Haha, I just put me a Tweak and Founders KBS in the fridge. Tweak is 17.5%abv and the KBS is 12.4%. I'm going to need them.
I think constant reminder to the masses of emails help take away enthusiasm to go and vote for her, even if polls show her in a confortable lead, this are just polls that dont represent the final choice of the voters. I wish I was as ppsitive as you guys, but I believe common semse and critical thinking is not present in most of the population and Trump seems to be the end result of this.
If only TLG came out on its original release date of a few days ago.
Could be playin video games instead of bedwetting.
Joe Shlabotnik
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I don't think there are enough jazzed Trump voters and depressed Clinton non-voters for the streams to cross. But if this gets pushed down to the 2-or-3-point firewall on election day I may be watching Clinton take the stage while inhaling that sweet sweet pure oxygen in the ICU.
Okay, that's the impression I've been getting. They're forwarded emails of the ones already reviewed.
Huma or Hillary? Cause as much as she like Huma she would drop her cold if that was the case, I am sure.
NYCmetsfan
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Its pointless then because their could be many reasons why.
AntraxSuicide
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Ya know, incompetence is a pretty decent reason to fire people!
It's not clear. I mean, when Comey came out and really excoriated her, per Trash Nate she lost 2 points. If she lost 2 points today, she'd still be a 65/35 favorite. Now, that's not great by any means. But that was worse than this, I think. I think.
Qwerty710710
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Well it's probably not going to happen tonight NC dem counties are showing up strong.... Well at least one county is.
Eh, what can you do? Big picture thing is this isn't what it seemed like at first, and is seemingly unrelated to her. If pressed, Clinton should focus on that. The biggest thing now is I see a bunch of people making Anthony Weiner jokes on Twitter, which I imagine will die down.
Otherwise, I say just ignore it. Hopefully, Trump will say something stupid again soon.
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StopMakingSense
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Good thing we're rigging the election, right comrades?
what's going on? I just came home from work and CNN is exploding over emails again??? What happened?
Basically this:
-Comey sends letter to Congress saying he found new emails and has to investigate them
-Chaffetz says Comey is reopening the investigation, whatever
-The emails were later revealed to be found on Huma/Weiner's computer/blackberry
-Nobody knows anything else
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Where are yall getting that they were forwards?
I was driving home the past hour...so I missed a lot apparently.
I was driving home the past hour...so I missed a lot apparently.
I'm not sure how republicans leaking a letter from someone means that person is worthy of being fired?
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