My respect for him greatly diminished after a certain point. I really wouldn't have minded had he stuck around even after it's clear that the math isn't there. But he stuck around - and this is key: he fed the attack machine against the winner, eroding her prospects of uniting the party for the general. Had he stuck to issues instead of dishing-out cowardly, unsubstantiated innuendo attacks while allowing his asshat surrogates to run their politically/mathematically illiterate mouths, my opinion would've remained much better.I think Bernie will drop out before May. The longer he stays in, despite clearly losing, the more his message will be hurt.
I'm already noticing people around me who used to not mind him, if not actually support him, turn around now and find that he's overstaying his welcome, because the math isn't there.
My respect for him greatly diminished after a certain point. I really wouldn't have minded had he stuck around even after it's clear that the math isn't there. But he stuck around - and this is key: he fed the attack machine against the winner, eroding her prospects of uniting the party for the general. Had he stuck to issues instead of dishing-out cowardly, unsubstantiated innuendo attacks while allowing his asshat surrogates to run their politically/mathematically illiterate mouths, my opinion would've remained much better.
But at this point? He's doing the GOP's dirty work. And that's something I can't abide. When he drops, I'm going to do a jig normally reserved for defeated Republicans.
He's not dropping out.
But he shouldn't stay in after the 26th. Oh well. No one will care about the Dem race after that except for VP tumors.
My respect for him greatly diminished after a certain point. I really wouldn't have minded had he stuck around even after it's clear that the math isn't there. But he stuck around - and this is key: he fed the attack machine against the winner, eroding her prospects of uniting the party for the general. Had he stuck to issues instead of dishing-out cowardly, unsubstantiated innuendo attacks while allowing his asshat surrogates to run their politically/mathematically illiterate mouths, my opinion would've remained much better.
But at this point? He's doing the GOP's dirty work. And that's something I can't abide. When he drops, I'm going to do a jig normally reserved for defeated Republicans.
Thirded. The man is a fool. There!I agree. Had he not stooped that low I'd be okay with him still in it. Also, the day that he drops out I'll be so drunk you won't find a drop of alcohol within a ten mile radius of my home.
How many articles will say Hillary lost because she didn't beat Sanders by the same margins he beat her in VT?
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Dems kill jobs, ignore facts. CO2 is what every human breathes out; every plant, in turn,consumes CO2. #ScienceFacts
I think he means sanders people will be begging for place on the ticket. I'm imagining s4p threads: "The only way I'm voting for a Democrat in November is if Bernie is on the ticket. #VPSanders"Oh dear, do you know something we don't?
I hadn't considered that.What if he pulls a Buchannan and goes off-script? That's my biggest worry. It will poison the well enormously.
pfft, I'm already seeing that. "If Hillary is such a strong candidate, how come she isn't winning by more in NY"
Ignoring that New York is a huge state of several areas that couldn't be more different and getting 70% of them to agree on something is a fool's errand.
Sernie Banders.Bernie Sanders.
what if they instead focus on disgruntled bernie voters and encourage them to to create campaigns against voting for hillary?If Hillary wins New York and sweeps (or only loses one state) on the 26th, the media isn't going to be interested in Bernie anymore. The race will be settled, but he's free to keep hitting up Reddit for $27 as long as people want to give it to him. I'm guessing the DNC will push him behind the scenes to drop out.
He cannot allow her delegate lead to grow even once from here on out.
You don't think they'll try to fuck him over with the rule votes? They're not bound to him on rule votes.I still think Trump wins on first ballot. His polling is going up in many states coming up. Plus aren't there like almost 200 uncommitted delegates? Even if he gets 1200, his team could bribe or bully 37 of them I would think. Even with Cruz snatching many of them now, they could always flip again later.
Boredom mainly.A lot of salt in this thread tonight, it's because Bernie reduced his Delegate deficit to 194, isn't it?
#2close2callIt's basically a dead heat
A lot of salt in this thread tonight, it's because Bernie reduced his Delegate deficit to 194, isn't it?
Green Papers says 210.A lot of salt in this thread tonight, it's because Bernie reduced his Delegate deficit to 194, isn't it?
A lot of salt in this thread tonight, it's because Bernie reduced his Delegate deficit to 194, isn't it?
You're pretty bad at math, I guess.A lot of salt in this thread tonight, it's because Bernie reduced his Delegate deficit to 194, isn't it?
A lot of salt in this thread tonight, it's because Bernie reduced his Delegate deficit to 194, isn't it?
New York is my last hope for Sanders and that's why I've been volunteering, that way in the event that he loses I'll at least be able to say ok i tried
What is this thread but a giant bubble for Hillary supporters?
Next op is going to really lay it in you guys!It is to an extent but linking to the likes of Seth Abhfbhf or whatever and HA Goodman as if they should be taken seriously is not something we do
I'm happy you're involved.
Going forward, it might be best to start getting involved downticket.New York is my last hope for Sanders and that's why I've been volunteering, that way in the event that he loses I'll at least be able to say ok i tried
A safe space for drunk gays and straights who enjoy watching drunk gays.What is this thread but a giant bubble for Hillary supporters?
New York is my last hope for Sanders and that's why I've been volunteering, that way in the event that he loses I'll at least be able to say ok i tried
New York is my last hope for Sanders and that's why I've been volunteering, that way in the event that he loses I'll at least be able to say ok i tried
i might not support the same person butI'm glad you're involved and doing the shitty work that actually gets people elelected.New York is my last hope for Sanders and that's why I've been volunteering, that way in the event that he loses I'll at least be able to say ok i tried
What is this thread but a giant bubble for Hillary supporters?
A safe space for drunk gays and straights who enjoy watching drunk gays.
This thread is pretty pro Hilary, but from what I can tell it is made up of a lot of former pro Obama people as well, so it's not like there were some baked in Hilary bias to begin with. This thread was also pretty ok with Sanders for a while before this last month
I'm a sober gay. I don't drink.
Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol 2h2 hours ago
Normally we don't criticize but apparently everyone on the Sanders list got an email touting 6 point contest... Polling done by Gravis!
Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol 2h2 hours ago
The Gravis poll is from 2 weeks ago. Reeks of releasing a favorable result just to drum up media attention for themselves.
Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol 2h2 hours ago
Gravis: FCC violations, off by double digits, bad methodology, accused of fabrication, releases only results that get media attention
I'm a sober gay. I don't drink.
my legs could use the workout. I may do that in the futureGoing forward, it might be best to start getting involved downticket.
too accurateA safe space for drunk gays and straights who enjoy watching drunk gays.
thanks adami might not support the same person butI'm glad you're involved and doing the shitty work that actually gets people elelected.
And gay. we're all gay. some of us are drunk to.
Tuesday is going to be really rough for you.A lot of salt in this thread tonight, it's because Bernie reduced his Delegate deficit to 194, isn't it?