StopMakingSense
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Math (okay this is rolling the latino vote into a 50% white, but for simplifying sake)
50*.8 = 40
75*.2 = 15
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT4| Tyler New Chief Exit Pollster at CNN
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Math (okay this is rolling the latino vote into a 50% white, but for simplifying sake)
50*.8 = 40
75*.2 = 15
Ziltoidia 9
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Really dont know why yall are playing up her winning NY. It was completely suspected for a long time.
And furthermore the outcome has been known for the whole primary for a long time. I just know know why you have to ravel in it. I mean I haven't been coming in here as often because its like a constant bash-fest of my candidate. I mean thats fine, I'll be back during the GE once everything is back to normal in the world.
And furthermore the outcome has been known for the whole primary for a long time. I just know know why you have to ravel in it. I mean I haven't been coming in here as often because its like a constant bash-fest of my candidate. I mean thats fine, I'll be back during the GE once everything is back to normal in the world.
theprodigy
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White voters don't make up 80% of the electorate though.
ugaboga232
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We are all just human and humans love to be tribalistic and reinforce their behaviors and be validated by others. There are few solutions other than putting dopamine antagonists in the water supply and turning everyone into zombies.
I'm sure it's probably the usual stump; the media stopped covering those a while ago if my memory serves correct.
StopMakingSense
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I was super simplifying the math just to show the impact of a 75% result in 20% of the electorate.
eBay Huckster
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racial demos for the borough are something like 35% white non-hispanic, 20% hispanic, 35% black, 12% asian
it's more like 75% in 20, ~58% in another 20%, 50% in the remaining 60%
blackaroni
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Embrace the Hive. Embrace your Queen.
Sad. Lol.
eBay Huckster
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in fairness to him, that's definitely a snark tweet
And plenty of people don't like her either. The animosity doesn't come out of thin air.
blackaroni
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Aaaaah, ok
JesseEwiak
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The 2024 or 2028 nominee for the GOP will be talking about "protecting the Affordable Care Act" from liberals wanting to reform to single payer.
StopMakingSense
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He replied before I finished my edit, it's all good.
Aaron Strife
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Because Bernie supporters have gotten extremely fucking obnoxious and delusional and I deal with them all the goddamn time and it's tiring
"It was completely suspected"? Tell that to my facebook feed, a lot of them are hyping up NY as the nail in the coffin of Hillary the corrupt, lying bitch
Ziltoidia 9
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I shall wait and see what she does do after winning the GE. I agree mostly with Obama, so I'd image that I would be OK with her presidency. But I don't pick my political favorites as idols or think they are a missiah.
I understand, I tend to just lurk here now anyway. I know there are much more Sander supporters over in the general Off-topic board. But one thing I haven't ever done here is bash Hillary, despite not liking her as much as I like Sander's view points.
I can assure you I'm not one of the annoying ones.
FloydtheFathead
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The John Birch Society proven right in the end after all.
well your in MN so if they sit out it wont matter so much.
Butts-a-plenty
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I hope not. Single Payer would be an awful idea for our country.
metalslimer
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I don't think most people here bashed him either until he completely dismissed southern voters and went conspiracy theory level bad in his attacks. The only real thing Clinton has hit Sanders on is guns.
ugaboga232
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Wait did they really suggest something like that? I was kidding (having low dopamine basically means having the negative symptoms of schizophrenia which are basically being an empty hollow shell of a human but hey then you have less of a drive to echo chamber).
I do think people are overestimating the shitty bernie supporters just like people overestimate the shitty hillary supporters.
And why is that? Other than not being politically feasible for now of course
Jimmy King
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I hope Matthews gets some indie brooklyn buzz bands on the show tonight.
If these exit polls hold up, and Bernie's numbers have gone down among his likely voters compared to two weeks ago, I'm gonna guess that that Daily News transcript really did hurt him. His inability to discuss his platform in detail triggered the biggest wave of negating media attention he's received all year.
I do hope that most Bernie supporters don't get discouraged with the election process. They are making a difference, it's just that change is not a switch that you turn on/off. Change is complex and takes time.
I think the worst outcome possible is for them to never vote again. We need all the center left people that can we can find.
I think the worst outcome possible is for them to never vote again. We need all the center left people that can we can find.
Aaron Strife
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That's good.
It may surprise you but I caucused for Sanders myself and have given him money. My only thing though was from the beginning I've been very skeptical of his chances, not only in the primary but in the general election if he made it there. When friends ask for my assessment of the race, I've been honest with them, and have been accused of being cynical at best, and at worst being a shill for Hillary and being a drone who's bought into the two-party system. I don't want to say this primary has burned any bridges, but it's made some of them a lot less stable as many people have turned into raging assholes over goddamn politics because they can't handle a little straight talk every now and then. No it's fine, go binge watch Young Turks and keep thinking Bernie's going to win 80% in California, that's fucking great.
Officerrob
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This guy on MSNBC has the worst comb over ever
FloydtheFathead
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Kind of?
They suggested that putting fluoride in the water supply was a communist plot to destroy America among many other things
eBay Huckster
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howard fineman? yeah, it's pretty atrocious
Officerrob
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The guy on the right. He has his hair plastered over so it wont move while everyone else's hair is blowing all over the place
ugaboga232
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Oh that, yea nothing like saving money on dental problems... Though I'm sure in due time research will show that extra fluoride damages brains but as of now theres no real research on that (lithium is horrific for the body and I doubt fluoride is much better but the levels used are pretty low).
eBay Huckster
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oh, i don't know who that guy was, i was mostly focused on fineman's hair flapping around majestically like a bird
If the margin is 10-15 like every poll predicted since the very beginning it means that nor the Daily News interview, nor the 3 million calls made any difference. Which is boring. Part of the fun is the idea that all those events move the needle a bit.
Mercury Fred
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I would hope that more than not get discouraged that those Bernie supporters brand new to politics start voting on non-presidential races and educate themselves on how the process works. That is how real change can happen.
ugaboga232
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Well the exit polls tell you the whole story: pretty much everyone already made up their minds. Humans are boring like that and its pretty hard to change beliefs. In fact research suggests trying to change minds can make people even more steadfast in their support. Blame it on whoever designed the brain.
Butts-a-plenty
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Because it doesn't make any sense. We're already on the path for a Swiss style or Dutch style multipayer system. Throwing it all out for single payer, which hasn't even proven to be the most effective kind of system, makes no sense and would cause more upheaval than makes any sense to subject ourselves too.
Single payer =/= universal healthcare.
superdeluxe
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I find it hRd to believe that Hill did better with whites in Ohio, compared to New York
Spend your time talking about how terrible government is, rail against the Washington Cartel and the establishment.
Spend your time trying to get delegates from states that decided not to bother having a primary or ones that you actually lost the primary in but you're team is great at working the system. When asked about it, reply that these are the rules and stop whining.
I'm slightly surprised more conservatives aren't talking about this, but they hate Trump so whatever it takes.
Spend your time trying to get delegates from states that decided not to bother having a primary or ones that you actually lost the primary in but you're team is great at working the system. When asked about it, reply that these are the rules and stop whining.
I'm slightly surprised more conservatives aren't talking about this, but they hate Trump so whatever it takes.
Fewer millennial hipsters in Ohio.
eBay Huckster
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oh christ now i know what you're talking about with that combover, rob
Orbis Tabula
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Oh, is there a chat tonight? Those are always fun
To offer a perspective as a Hillary supporter, I think part of the reason PoliGAF has become so echoey is that OT threads are (as I see them) filled with Bernie supporters who don't just love their candidate, and don't just hate Hillary to a somewhat disturbing extent, but suggest that I personally am stupid, conservative, selfish, etc. for supporting Hillary when Bernie's obviously the better choice. I spent a lot of time engaging with them, and eventually basically gave up because I was tired of repeating the same discussions when the other side was mainly engaging in personal attacks from my perspective. This is one reason I don't post in OT politics right now and I notice that some posters who normally spend their time in OT politics threads have migrated over here to complain about how bad Bernie supporters are. They feel pretty inhospitable.
I get that you have more or less the same perspective on PoliGAF, just reversed. Basically I think this primary season has just gone on way too long.
VendettaRed07
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Ohio has fewer whole foods locations. Farther away from Ben & Jerry's, etc.
I really liked the Pope-senpai pls pay attention to me one, lol
Officerrob
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It's just ridiculous looking. I'm a balding man myself, he needs to trim that all down short
ugaboga232
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Ok I can kinda buy the upheaval argument and I am well aware single payer isn't UHC (I'm in the medical field
). But I'm pretty sure single payer is theoretically better due to less administrative overhead than multipayer but at the end of the day european style multipayer is really just healthcare as a utility provided by heavily regulated private companies. Eventually public hospital's a la britain would be the most efficient but would take a while. The bigger problems are how do we start treating healthcare as a utility and not a commodity because that will be the big paradigm shift that I don't know if incremental change only on top of ACA can accomplish in any reasonable time frame.
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