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PoliGAF 2016 |OT4| Tyler New Chief Exit Pollster at CNN
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Indiana is probably the key.
Future Foundation
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I got to vote with my mom today. I spent some much needed time outside, and Hunt, Tur, Jackson, and Welker are on. Best timeline.
is Hallie the oldest after Welker?
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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You'll never get Congress to implement ranked voting, but amendments can be pushed for by the people and bypass Congress, if there's political will for it. It's more Democratic, removes the risk of voting for less-prominent candidates, and promotes good governance by allowing smaller parties to form and join into coalitions. The future of the world is greater customizability of life, and two huge monolithic parties representing a variety of interests is anathema to that.
NYCmetsfan
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Just met Sanders press head
lol me too, I reread it like 5 thimes
Macho Madness
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We had the discussion about Hillary riding Bills coattails further back in the thread I'm not sure many would want to drudge it up again. Also Bernie outspent everyone in New York combined so I'm not sure what money had to do with anything.
That you think that way of her is your problem with no connection to reality. That's your problem and yes it's a lame problem to have.
Fuck off, Jill. Bernie picked his team.
There isn't, but there also isn't a need to go full parliament system when implementing a ranked voting system.
If you wanted a parliament system, what you'd do is separate the Vice President and President's votes again and make the Vice the second place runner up again.
Wafflecakes
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I might believe that if I were a stupid person.
No way will history look at her that way when all is said and done.
I think that you're being quite dismissive of her personal accomplishments.
balladofwindfishes
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Seems a bit sexist tbh
Jimmy King
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Who spent more money in NY?
VendettaRed07
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Sure the numbers are against Bernie, if you believe in numbers and materialism that is..
But I don't. At least, not entirely.
But I don't. At least, not entirely.
Big Baybee
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That's what Ana is doing, at least. Cenk trying to sound reasonable (barely), but I don't think he wants to turn off Bernie supporters. He is going to transition to supporting Hillary when Bernie drops out.
eBay Huckster
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more accurately, who spent more money in NY than every other candidate combined?
Ziltoidia 9
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Hi, I'm a drunk Sanders supporter. AMA.
She's done that in the past. Particularly when it came to southern Dems.
excelsiorlef
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She earned where she is. Enough of this she rode the coattails of men bullshit.
metalslimer
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Hilary has made here on her own merits. She could have easily failed as both Senator and Secretary of State. This kind of ridiculous foolishness needs to stop. She's not some idiot who has just been the wife of a politician. She's had her own career long before being first lady.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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I know there's not, but a parliamentary system is better-suited to the rise of smaller parties with narrower interests. My goal is breaking the two-party hegemony, not just making third-party votes less "wasteful".
Agreed, ultimately being a large part of and helping 8 million children get healthcare (CHIP) is easy to ignore. She certainly has other accomplishments that are as easy to do so, as well.
seriously, dismissive as hell.
Future Foundation
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Yeah. Welker, then Hallie. Then I think Tur, then Hunt.
EDIT: Whoops, it's Hunt then Tur.
eBay Huckster
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what do you think his campaign should do if clinton wins everything next week
aside from firing jeff weaver out of a cannon into the sun
: / Weaver sucks
Hillary's earned her accomplishments and where she is today, no doubt about it. But it's because she's a woman that a lot of people credit her husband, or "big money" (despite being outspent) on her victories here. And even if it were Warren, her gender would be used to bring her down.
aspiegamer
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So, I see on s4p that there's a campaign office opening in Los Angeles tomorrow. It's their first in the state. This late. Despite having amble cash for months, they apparently made zero plans to actually go this far. Great campaign management, guys!
Ranked voting would break the two party hedgemony as you would no longer be wasting your vote if you vote third party.
Under FPTP you only really need to concern yourself with the 2-3% "coin flip" section of voters to win an election. In ranked, you have to talk to more people, and ally with other parties to get their voters to make you their second choice.
Someone's thirsty, and it's not just Adam.
I really think you vastly overestimate how persuasive politicians and pundits can be. People consume media for confirmation bias. They aren't really being manipulated or persuaded into believing an incorrect or correct way of thinking or doing something. They are looking for media to confirm their beliefs. A party that does not reflect the majority of the people's beliefs is going to be in serious trouble.
If you want something more than slow progress, if you want radical change, then you are going to need to wait for an radical event that changes the circumstances of peoples lives so they start thinking differently.
Warren would have been nice. Still, we'll take what we can get... and a liberal Supreme Court. It's not all stormclouds today, man.
If I were to extrapolate these results onto Pennsylvania next week, Sanders will win Erie and Pennsyltucky, and Clinton will win Pittsburgh, Scranton, Philly and its suburbs. Probably another 15% victory there. Trump will probably win big there too, but obviously not 60% big. High 40's, probably. Maybe 50's.
Aaron Strife
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Fuck you doc.
The media confirms views more than it pushes them. Relatives and peers are far more instrumental in changing political opinions.
Despite similar media institutions existing, multi-party systems thrive across the world. Why wouldn't they work here in America?
The only thing that's annoying about a Trump nomination is that there are a lot of House seats that are low hanging fruit for Dems, but Trump on the ticket might shore up enough support among Republicans that the GOP keeps most of those winnable seats. New York being his home state, that might be the only state where Trump on the ticket might help Congressional Republicans.
eBay Huckster
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so ben carson somehow beat ted cruz in CD16 and came within 200 votes in CD17
Voysa Reezun
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Latest delegate count according to 538.
Looks like Trump earns 90 delegates at worst if he flips places with Kasich in the 12th district.
A 91/4/ (or 90/5) split for Trump/Kasich with Cruz getting shut out is pretty much the best possible result on that side.
Don't fuck up California or Indiana, Trump, you dumb bastard.
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