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PoliGAF 2016 |OT4| Tyler New Chief Exit Pollster at CNN

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adam387 said:
I can be drunk right?



No I'm serious. My bf loves this. And I know nothing.
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It's amazing. You'll love it.

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adam387 said:
No I'm serious. My bf loves this. And I know nothing.
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Ah, well to be honost this year isn't too good. Wrestlemania is just the biggest WWE event of the year...or should be at least. They play video packages before each match, to tell yo the story lines.

Side note, I'm going to the event, lulz. Its at Texas stadium (i will call it that, damn it). Should be about 100k people there.
 
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SomewhatGroovy said:
Alright, someone comes up to you and refers to Bernie as the socialist. How do you clearly define the distinction between what a Democratic Socialist is vs a Socialist?
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A Socialist has the balls to run on a third-party ticket, a Democratic Socialist is a Socialist who runs in a Democratic primary for exposure and proceeds to insult eveyone in the party they're trying to get elected to lead.
 
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adam387 said:
That's not bad at all. Remember Bernie doesn't get brownie points for barely winning. Any state in which he wins but doesn't meet his targets is a win for Hillary. Say he nets 5 delegates from the state. Great. But now there are 86 fewer delegates on the table.
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That's actually the best joke of all. For all the talk of Sanders miracle losing is winning math. It is actually Clinton with that power.
 
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Adam, get Kyle a GAF account so he doesn't have to put you through that experience.. If it came down to watching the Browns or WWE today. I'd still pick the Browns.

Still waiting for my FFXII remake
 
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I like how every time I read about the margin of victory for Clinton in Arizona, it always seems to magically shrink. Now it's 15%? What will it be in a few weeks, 10%?
 
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SomewhatGroovy said:
Alright, someone comes up to you and refers to Bernie as the socialist. How do you clearly define the distinction between what a Democratic Socialist is vs a Socialist?
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Socialist: Government owns the hospitals, doctors are gov't. employees. When you receive service there is no bill.

Social Democrat: Hospitals and gov't. are private entities, Gov't collectively bargains the rate it will pay the bill for services you receive.
 
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Farmboy said:
It's one of those cases where what Dems actually did obviously didn't work, so in hindsight any fantasy scenario that follows a different strategy automatically becomes very attractive. Since it could scarcely be much worse than what happened, and could possibly have been much better.

And some would argue that doubling down on their ideology to excite their base is what helped the GOP in those elections, especially in 2010, so it might seem like a plan to emulate that. But in actuality their victory/base turnout of 2010 was probably more about the resentment of losing in 2008
to a black fella
, which is hard to emulate when you're the party with the sitting president. Closest dem version is probably 2006.
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Definitely, but you also had fairly conservative Ann Kirkpatrick and Kyrsten Sinema keep their seats in 2014 while comparatively liberal Kay Hagan lost hers. It's an easy line to scream out when it more has to do with the structural issues of 2010 and 2014.
 
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Drek said:
Socialist: Government owns the hospitals, doctors are gov't. employees. When you receive service there is no bill.

Social Democrat: Hospitals and gov't. are private entities, Gov't collectively bargains the rate it will pay the bill for services you receive.
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I like that.
 
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Abinash117 said:
Maybe some people on the internet.

I think he might raise some points on socialism and social democracy, but I don't think he explained what makes them great at all. I think it is mostly college students, and a few others that is taking it to heart, but for college students, it seems to wanting of more stuff they don't have to pay for. On the other side, it looks like some people want a more effective system that makes their life better. The group of working class and blue collar Americans, mostly white. Many older white Americans aren't doing well, so they are looking at people that are talking about their issues. The problem for Bernie is that this group might not care for social democracy on a ideological level, but whatever helps them in their current situation.

This group of people hardly gets talked about and they are the ones that are voting for Bernie in bigger numbers than young people, but at the same time these people aren't necessary loyal to Bernie at all.

I doubt Bernie is actual making a huge difference in getting many people to want social democracy in America. There already is a sizeable wing in the Democratic party that are close to social democrats. I think the Democrats will try to make a bigger welfare state and try to improve workers, but I am not under the illusion that they will put more programs directly under the federal government.
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Bernie is not the candidate that socialists or social democrats need. He's not a great politician. But as far as the libertarian thing goes; I do believe it is becoming a bigger issue. The libertarian party is polling at like 11% for the national election. The Green Party is what? Maybe 1% at the most? And the libertarian party is likely to keep growing at a pretty fast pace as the republicans keep losing their shit.
 
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NeoXChaos said:
he's like 28 or 29, fits gafs demographics, and a Hillary stan to bernie bros. He would fit nicely here. It would be great to have political insiders in poligaf like we have game industry insiders or workers like Frankie.
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Cesare Borgia's a bit of an insider.
 
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Aaron Strife said:
Absolutely. Demographic shifts alone over the past four years would have given it to Obama in 2012. Against Trump it'd be a pretty easy win.

Also Pew Research has Obama's approval rating at 51%, first time in almost three years.
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Thanks guys, I would have assumed it would since its close to the mid atlantic area where Clinton does wel and its shifting to the dems recently.
 
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Can someone clarify something for me on primary candidates raising money for downballot races?

Can they move money from their own campaign fund over the DNC for downballot funds or do donors have to explicitly donate for the downballot races? Also, who does most of that work if money is being raised for both at a single event? Does the campaign staff handle the downballot paperwork and staffing (tables, etc.) or would the DNC?

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He also made an agreement to fund raise for down ballot Dems. So far, he's contributed $1000 to that fund. Last quarter, Hillary raised $31 million.

And he is spending, that's for sure. He's berning through money like cray-cray.
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Adam, do you have a link to a source for these numbers? I'm (foolishly) stuck in a facebook argument on this point.
 
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Aaron Strife said:
Absolutely. Demographic shifts alone over the past four years would have given it to Obama in 2012. Against Trump it'd be a pretty easy win.

Also Pew Research has Obama's approval rating at 51%, first time in almost three years.
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Yea. Obama almost won it in 2012. An improved economy and the continued (impressive) growth of grassroots organizations in NC could very well lead to a Hillary victory. Against Cruz or Trump.
 
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NeoXChaos said:
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Hence my wild theory about Kasich.

Macho Madness said:
Wrestle mania is good because it's basically just a big spectacle. If you only watch wwe once a year, that's the time

You don't even have to be a fan
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adam387 said:
I can be drunk right?



No I'm serious. My bf loves this. And I know nothing.
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Hey, WM might be ok this year. The short version is Adam that this year a good 1/2 to 2/3 of the main wrestlers got injured and won't be at Wrestlemania, so this year's going to be a hilarious clustermess. Get drunk. Enjoy.
 
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