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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam
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Um, Inidian was huge back in 2008. It was the state that prompted Tim russet to declare Obama the nominee, and after that night it was basically over and everyone knew it. It's how Obama won it in the general - he had built up such an infrastructure in the state due to the long primary that he carried that forward into the election.
Also worth remembering that a lot of states that vote late this time round voted early last time - New York and California amongst them. The order isn't fixed. which states matter and which don't, outside the first 4, changes with each contested primary season.
I believed that when he was quiet. Then he opened his mouth last night and that thought was over
But you thought about it. Will be interesting to see how he looks in the GE once all the dust settles and the speculation starts becoming more of a reality.
I actually got even more scared last night because we saw a watered down less vulgar Trump acting dumber than ever despite a commanding 5 state sweep.
Can you explain what was "watered down" about last nights nonsensical performance?
It was textbook Trump last night, including the stupid nicknames, put downs, incoherent ramblings, dog whistling, and ended in a fog horn blast of misogyny.
That was "watered down"? Or is that your point, that he isn't softening as some have thought he would?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean it seems fairly obvious why: the goal is to get people to vote for a guy they don't like for the purpose of stripping the guy with the most votes of said votes to allow unelected party officials to vote for a mystery candidate. That isn't calculated to get the vote out.
It's ok, we know your hurting, watching your messiah turn out to be a false prophet, but don't worry there is a place for all in the reign of our queen
Yes like one thing. But the rest of it was PG rated bantering like a 10 year talking to his mom about politics for the first time.
Ignatz Mouse
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The difference here is "likely voter." it's easier to answer the phone than to go and vote.
blackaroni
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Last night's total votes for all 5 states:
Clinton: 1,730,511
Trump: 1,333,884
Sanders: 1,257,885
Hillary is ahead of Bernie by 3,166,000 votes.
Clinton: 1,730,511
Trump: 1,333,884
Sanders: 1,257,885
Hillary is ahead of Bernie by 3,166,000 votes.
God damn, queenie. Impressive.
Where's Ted here? Oh.
balladofwindfishes
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It's amazing how Trump managed to sweep every single area and win by a landslide, and yet, still came in with less votes than Hillary.
I never thought it. I believed from the start Trump would trip not because of minorities or age but because of gender. During the heat of all the primary, people talked a lot about AA vote and white vote and youth vote, but the female vote was seldom a hot topic.
Buckle in, Diablos. In Chinese there's a saying that translates literally to "death by women's hands" and you'll see it in action in November.
There are more Democrats than Republicans in a lot of those states
blackaroni
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And I'm sure she appreciates you for your help in PA.
Yes, that and there were more candidates on Republican side.
plagiarize
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So my Facebook wall is a mix of acceptance and pledging to never ever vote for Clinton under any circumstance. It was refreshing to wake up to that instead of a fresh batch of insults to probability and statistics.
AntraxSuicide
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Complete radio silence from mine. Finally.
balladofwindfishes
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Mine is dead as well. Nothing about the election at all.
Sirpopopop
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Mine is at the, "Never voting for Clinton level."
I remain firmly of the opinion that basic probability, statistics, and the most common abuses thereof should be mandatory learning, for the sake of not having so many infuriating conversations.
hammysaurusrex
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I know people are probably becoming (or already) irritated with the subgroup within the thread that basically make this a TYT watching party, so I'll make this my last post on the topic for a bit:
Cenk 2012 argues with Cenk 2016 over the role and validity of statistical predictions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHB0onhyVRc
Cenk 2012 argues with Cenk 2016 over the role and validity of statistical predictions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHB0onhyVRc
plagiarize
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I've never had a problem with people preferring Bernie. His platform is different. He focusses on different issues. A lot of people responded to his platform. It was the refusal to see that he wasn't going to win that really annoyed me.
Just two days ago, one of the people who is now just posting anti Hillary memes, wasn't open to any reality that didn't have President Sanders. Like, couldn't consider any other reality than that.
These BernieorBust people don't get that they're now pulling for America to go bust. But that's fine. We won't need them to win. Let them act as they are now and paint themselves as the marginalized fringe view that they refuse to comprehend that they are.
I don't need them to accept that they're a fringe group when everyone else is going to see it.
VendettaRed07
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I hate nintendo.
I hate videogames.
I hate videogames.
Skiptastic
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Complain all you want, but this is Indiana. Basketball is a really big deal here. It would be like going to Alabama and saying you support the University of Alabama Elephants.
Basically, if you don't know the vernacular, don't fucking use it.
I'm not mad to see Ted Cruz wither and die for this in my state, but I am pretty salty that Kasich left and Cruz immediately fucks it up. These last two days have basically given the race to Trump, if he didn't already have it. Trump will REALLY have to fuck things up to have a contested convention (though, what he said about Hillary if she were a man, that could be the start...)
plagiarize
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Has anybody checked how tall a basketball hoop is lately? Someone get a tape measure and call Ted Cruz once we know.
The Lamonster
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My Bernie friends are posting about sports today lol
Fume Knight requires patience and good stamina management, his moves in general are pretty easy to dodge so you can get behind him for a hit or two. When he does the big slow glowy swing, roll into it, and you've got time for a good combo. Just stick close to him and never let your stamina bar get too low to roll.
As for the blue Smelter Demon, fuck that guy. Bullshit-ass random fuck move delays. If you've got a poison option, use it, that helps whittle him down faster. I hate fighting that bastard, especially if I'm using sorceries only.
DS2 is great, it's just that DS1's world connectivity was From's best to date. Also, I didn't care for the added parry/riposte/backstab delays in DS2, but that's because I had so much fun in DS1 standing in a big group of enemies doing sequential insta-ripostes without getting hit like I'm some kind of kung-fu movie badass. Power stance is a lovely new addition.
"We" don't. He's a good pick. I'd just wish for a much younger nominee. But considering how Presidential electoral politics are going, I'm not terribly concerned about needing to replace him a decade or two down the line.
Veritigo_X
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That TYT segment last night sounds wonderful. Glad I have that to look forward to after work.
The way Cenk mumbled under his breath when dude was bringing up the legit point that Bernie hasn't been attacked yet tells you everything.
So unprofessional
It verges on the point of being sad.
That was my hunch a while back. Obama knows that Dems have the edge going forward, and that he'll be easily replaced by a Dem whenever appropriate. So he went for political expedience, putting up someone with a history of GOP praise and impressive credentials.
I'm fine with Garland. Seems like a solid lefty nominee. (I seem to remember Obama's other nominations being called "moderates" when they were under consideration.)
Denial is one of the most powerful capabilities of the human mind. Self-righteousness is one of the most addictive pleasures. The two go together well.
plagiarize
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I don't hate Garland at all. He'd be an amazing replacement for Scalia and would represent a big shift to the left for the court.
FloydtheFathead
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Crimson Tide.. That's their mascot.
balladofwindfishes
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Garland is immensely qualified for the job. He'd also be replacing Scalia, so even if he's a slightly left leaning moderate, it's still a huge swing for the court.
Joe Shlabotnik
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I was watching this and thought I heard ring but assumed he actually said rim. Plus I was confused by the entire analogy.
Mess.
I swear I was just thinking this this morning. The "only" thing preventing Trump from being a formidable GE candidate is his pathological boorishness. With all the shit he's already said, that's not a door that can't be closed now for him, but you couch all that protectionism and nationalism and anger in a marginally more filtered candidate and you have a real problem.
Ivy had a few choice words to say about that in chat last night. The analogy with Europe doesn't hold up because our demographics are so much more diverse and increasingly so. If the right continues to stick with xenophobia and racism, they aren't going to win the Presidency.
I think you missed his point
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
So Trump isn't a formidable GE candidate because of his toxic personality? I mean, isn't that a given?
FloydtheFathead
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I didn't.. It was a good point. I just wanted to point that out. And yes Bob Knight is God to many people there.
Edit- I'm dumb. I realized the point now.
plagiarize
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Precisely. The Conservatives in the UK (for example) are far to the left on social issues when compared to the GOP. The GOP will have to abandon social conservatism if they want to start being competitive again in the general. They probably won't do it until it costs them a mid term. If they were going to do it based on a general, they'd have done it after Obama got reelected.
The GOP really need to go back to what they were pre cold war. Cut out all the extreme religion. Marginalize bigoted voters.
I mean, they needed to do that three years ago and refused to (and then when they won the mid terms because of gerrymandering and low turnout took that as a sign they'd done the right thing).
It will happen eventually. I just don't see it in time for 2020.
FloydtheFathead
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So.. Where was the map showing trump losing woman by a truck load in addition to the other demos by his current rate? Because damn.. Just damn.
Chezzymann
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Why does ted cruz talk exactly like a pastor
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